Letsjet Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 so I'm coming back, where are the class buffs? I can't find them to cast them but there is one on my buff line (Force might for jedi knight) do i nolonger need to cast them? i had all the buffs unlocked in the legacy. Are they all still available? Do I no longer need to worry about character class buffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdjeYo Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 They are passives now. So you no longer have to apply them manually. You should still see them in your buffs tray though (it still annoys me to no end that you can't hide class buffs now that they're passives). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcmoon Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 so I'm coming back, where are the class buffs? I can't find them to cast them but there is one on my buff line (Force might for jedi knight) do i nolonger need to cast them? i had all the buffs unlocked in the legacy. Are they all still available? Do I no longer need to worry about character class buffs? They are a constant effect now. No need to recast them. I don’t hold recommend reading the 7.0 patch notes to see what changes they made to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjmarsh Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I miss the days when I was running around doing my class story and buffing all the players with a different class. It was a nice little interaction when someone reciprocated and a small part of making me feel like part of a community. Shame they had to be axed, I assume to cater to a more casual crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SithKoriandr Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I miss the days when I was running around doing my class story and buffing all the players with a different class. It was a nice little interaction when someone reciprocated and a small part of making me feel like part of a community. Shame they had to be axed, I assume to cater to a more casual crowd. Not sure how turning them into passives caters to the casual crowd, when it was just a click to get/give the buff(s). I felt it was more in line to make the game a little more difficult for the new player, so they had a thing to achieve themselves. No need to try hard for it, if everyone is always buffing you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjmarsh Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Not sure how turning them into passives caters to the casual crowd, when it was just a click to get/give the buff(s). I felt it was more in line to make the game a little more difficult for the new player, so they had a thing to achieve themselves. No need to try hard for it, if everyone is always buffing you. That's interesting, I never considered that it was changed for the sake of new players. From what I remember it started out as a single class-specific ability. Then they made it so that if you completed a certain part of the story on a particular class it added that class' buff to your normal one through a legacy unlock. As it stands now does it give new players all four buffs by default? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWho Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 That's interesting, I never considered that it was changed for the sake of new players. From what I remember it started out as a single class-specific ability. Then they made it so that if you completed a certain part of the story on a particular class it added that class' buff to your normal one through a legacy unlock. As it stands now does it give new players all four buffs by default? No, it works exactly the same as it did in 6.0. You have to complete the story through Chapter 2 I believe to get the buff on your other classes. It's the main reason you see such a differential in difficulty between new and old players (the buffs are quite substantial (5-10% damage resistance boost, 5% critical chance increase, etc) compared to what you get from abilities under level sync.). Throw in the Legacy boosts from datacrons (which are not capped as they are part of the bonus) and you can have a brand new character on the starter planet that is almost hitting the planetary cap) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SithKoriandr Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 That's interesting, I never considered that it was changed for the sake of new players. From what I remember it started out as a single class-specific ability. Then they made it so that if you completed a certain part of the story on a particular class it added that class' buff to your normal one through a legacy unlock. As it stands now does it give new players all four buffs by default? I mean, to make the game a little more difficult for a new player. To give them something to work toward just a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trlance Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) What about animation of this buffs? "Why they removed class skill buffs with 7.0? (Force Might for Jedi Knight for example) I know they are now permanent but that buffs had amazing animation for every class. Now where is it? Gone. I don't get it. What more, i loved to buff other players with it, for fun or for showing my good attitude to them and so on. Why you removed that fun? With this buff i really felt my power on my main Sage. It was my hallmark." From here: https://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=1005288 ~ Tsukito, Alliance Commander Edited April 14, 2022 by Trlance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelorfinSiana Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 You know the problem with this? Sometimes the companion gets bugged and doesn't get the buffs unless you mount and unmount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 You know the problem with this? Sometimes the companion gets bugged and doesn't get the buffs unless you mount and unmount. That has always been the case. The classic one is if your stealth character dismounts directly into stealth by firing the stealth ability. The companion doesn't get the buffs in that case. The difference is that now you can't force the buffs onto the companion by recasting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pricia Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 I, for one, love the changes. I don't have to remember to rebuff myself every time I die in pvp or whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdjeYo Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 I, for one, love the changes. I don't have to remember to rebuff myself every time I die in pvp or whatnot. Yeah it's great but can we please have an option to not display them, the buffs clutter is real. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Yeah it's great but can we please have an option to not display them, the buffs clutter is real. Until they fix up the companions and their inconsistent acquisition of the buffs, I think they should leave the icons on the companions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darev Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 I miss the button to do it myself. I liked being able to buff other players, or for other players to buff my toon. It was, as far as I can see, a completely pointless change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pricia Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 I miss the button to do it myself. I liked being able to buff other players, or for other players to buff my toon. It was, as far as I can see, a completely pointless change. Not pointless. They can't be removed by bosses now (I know it's happened in the past with some of them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darev Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Not pointless. They can't be removed by bosses now (I know it's happened in the past with some of them). Can't say I've ever run into that...but....ok Was it a frequent thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calidge Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 T The difference is that now you can't force the buffs onto the companion by recasting them. Dismiss your companion and then call them back. The buffs will be applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Dismiss your companion and then call them back. The buffs will be applied. Yes. I know. Does it work *in* stealth without *breaking* stealth. (Read what I said about the scenario: dismount by activating stealth, companion doesn't get the buffs.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddbodz Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 They are passives now. So you no longer have to apply them manually. You should still see them in your buffs tray though (it still annoys me to no end that you can't hide class buffs now that they're passives). This may come as a shock but there's this little thing called interface editor. Open it and click on the player buff bar then uncheck the box , your personal buffs that are so tiny anyway will be hidden if this bothers you SO much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdjeYo Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 This may come as a shock but there's this little thing called interface editor. Open it and click on the player buff bar then uncheck the box , your personal buffs that are so tiny anyway will be hidden if this bothers you SO much. Why the hostility? Besides, your solution is terrible. My buffs bar is somewhat cluttered due to 4 essentially passive abilities being on there, so let's remove the entire buffs tray? So that now instead of those 4 buffs making the buff bar more annoying to read, I can't read it at all because it's disabled. Out of the frying pan and into the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trlance Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 My fourth music video on which I would like to emphasize how important for each class are the class buffs that have been removed (from 0:10). Is there a chance to bring them back at least as emotes? Why were they removed completely? Without these buffs, I can't stand fully determined to fight every time. Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTVN76cVcSI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 9 hours ago, Trlance said: My fourth music video on which I would like to emphasize how important for each class are the class buffs that have been removed (from 0:10). Is there a chance to bring them back at least as emotes? Why were they removed completely? Without these buffs, I can't stand fully determined to fight every time. Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTVN76cVcSI I'm sorry, but they didn't remove the *buffs*. They removed the "cast my buffs" abilities, but not the buffs, because the buffs that your character is allowed to use are applied automatically and don't time out after an hour. As for emotes that mimic the old "cast my buffs" abilities' animations, sure, sounds like a nice idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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