Galactic Seasons

[merovejec]

So what is this, another one of the achievements type "Login rewards"? What happened to the imagination of the Devs? Why do they want to enslave the achievement hunters to the game? Login everyday for login rewards, do an task every day for the seasons...... I am really starting to get fed up with this stuff. Why introduce something that takes months and months? Its not real content, its not fun at all.

[GeneralGyro]

it's done by passively playing the game...

 

if you dont want to do it you don't have to

[mike_carton]

So what is this, another one of the achievements type "Login rewards"? What happened to the imagination of the Devs? Why do they want to enslave the achievement hunters to the game? Login everyday for login rewards, do an task every day for the seasons...... I am really starting to get fed up with this stuff. Why introduce something that takes months and months? Its not real content, its not fun at all.

 

My first reaction as well. Instead of using creativity and imagination to produce new content, instead of being committed to quality and reducing the outstanding bugs (*), instead of being customer-centered and introducing asked-for QoL improvements, they spend time on:

 

- Amplifier window

- damaging Conquest in reaction to an Astroturf campaign by a noisy handful

- introducing more bugs in a patch than even a major release should be excused for having

- wiping out miliions of credits and thousands of tech fragments players spent in gathering equipment sets for the Spoils of War achievement

- adding more gameplay systems (and very likely new achievements) for doing the same content again and again

 

This is mostly feasible for them as the achievement hunters and completionists are holding themselves as hostages.

 

(*) Real issues, fixing spelling mistakes in a Feast NPC's dialogue doesn't count.

Edited March 19, 2021 by mike_carton

[KendraP]

It's yet another attempt to entertain us by providing a new reason to do years old content that they can't even be bothered to scale properly. Worst of both worlds.

 

At this point, I'm not even sure aryn leneer will be enough to bring me back, much less keep me subscribed between the end of my current time and whenever 6.3 is actually launched. And I was very excited about the aryn leneer tease.

 

But more than anything we need a max level endgame, BW. Nkt one op and a couple FPs.

[foxmob]

I'd have thought you would've reconciled with the fact that SWTOR is just LOTRO with a more updated SW spin. They can't keep up with tiered end game content. I'm not even criticizing at this point. but I'm well past the point of expecting BW to change. I'll stop in for a couple months. eat up w/e content has dropped in the past 18 months. then check back a year or so later.

 

or I'll stay and deco my SH. w/e. it's a very casual game. stop fighting that, and I think you'll find some peace. took me ~6 years to get there. lol

[DeannaVoyager]

 

This is mostly feasible for them as the achievement hunters and completionists are holding themselves as hostages.

 

 

I gave up on that with the moving goal posts on Life Day Event. By basically resetting my cheevo from previous year, and claiming it was intended trying to make me start all over, I was cured for my cheevo hunting addiction.

 

The point of hunting achievements is that there is a clear, sensible goal that doesn't change every time you get closer to it. And to be sensible, it has to be within reach and possible to finish with practise and some grind: not by logging in daily for who knows how many years, not by playing expensive slot machine every weekend, and not be repeating same old content over and over again to finish new achievements - achievements that I already got years ago.

 

The latest additions to achievements fail on sensible, within reach and fair.

 

So what makes a cheevo unfair you may ask so here's a few:

- If I hug 1000 wookies the first year of the event, and next year I'd have to do 1500 more while people who joined later will only have to do 1500 in total when I have to do 2500, that's unfair.

- If I have to repeat [whatever] old content to get some new cheevos, while people who joined later will get the old cheevos I already did WHILE they also get the new Galactic Seasons at the same time, that's unfair.

[xordevoreaux]

So what is this, another one of the achievements type "Login rewards"? What happened to the imagination of the Devs? Why do they want to enslave the achievement hunters to the game? Login everyday for login rewards, do an task every day for the seasons...... I am really starting to get fed up with this stuff. Why introduce something that takes months and months? Its not real content, its not fun at all.

 

I was about to post something akin to "the game needs something in addition to conquest" when lo and behold, out comes the 6.3 announcement.

 

Totally looking forward to Galactic Seasons!

Edited March 19, 2021 by xordevoreaux

[xordevoreaux]

So what is this, another one of the achievements type "Login rewards"? What happened to the imagination of the Devs? Why do they want to enslave the achievement hunters to the game? Login everyday for login rewards, do an task every day for the seasons...... I am really starting to get fed up with this stuff. Why introduce something that takes months and months? Its not real content, its not fun at all.

 

I take it we don't remember DvL, which took "months and months" and whose content people to this day scream for, namely certain companions from it.

 

You, as well as many other naysayers dissing something you haven't even experienced yet, may suddenly find working toward these rewards something you want to do.

Edited March 19, 2021 by xordevoreaux

[DraonaiMimnov]

Alot of whining here lol. Bioware is not forcing anyone to play these new features.

[xordevoreaux]

Alot of whining here lol. Bioware is not forcing anyone to play these new features.

 

I've learned over the years that people whine over change because it's change, not ---necessarily--- because the change is good or bad, just that it's different than what they experienced the day before, which I'm sure is absolutely laughable to new players who have no idea what the heck people are clamoring or complaining about who've joined the game long after those features changed.

Edited March 19, 2021 by xordevoreaux

[DarkTergon]

I gave up on that with the moving goal posts on Life Day Event. By basically resetting my cheevo from previous year, and claiming it was intended trying to make me start all over, I was cured for my cheevo hunting addiction.

 

.

 

 

Yup, same here, I stopped grinding all achievements, didn't touch the wookie, or new life day one, and won't bother with any new ones. If they pop through gameplay, chances are I probably won't even notice, which is sad, as I used to love going after them :/

[Screaming_Ziva]

Alot of whining here lol. Bioware is not forcing anyone to play these new features.

Agreed. I am looking forward to everything seasons will offer. It should breathe some new life into the game and hopefully get people to do some things they've never done or haven't done in a very long time.

[Darkbloom]

I like the idea of Galactic Seasons. We'll see how the rewards look.

 

I hope that maybe it can be used to get companions that are a little more interesting than the one they've previewed. Maybe it could be used to get companions from Vanilla that currently aren't available to all classes. Or to get companions from the new expansions that we can't currently add to our roster.

[MagicTerror]

My first reaction as well. Instead of using creativity and imagination to produce new content, instead of being committed to quality and reducing the outstanding bugs (*), instead of being customer-centered and introducing asked-for QoL improvements, they spend time on:

 

- Amplifier window

- damaging Conquest in reaction to an Astroturf campaign by a noisy handful

- introducing more bugs in a patch than even a major release should be excused for having

- wiping out miliions of credits and thousands of tech fragments players spent in gathering equipment sets for the Spoils of War achievement

- adding more gameplay systems (and very likely new achievements) for doing the same content again and again

 

This is mostly feasible for them as the achievement hunters and completionists are holding themselves as hostages.

 

(*) Real issues, fixing spelling mistakes in a Feast NPC's dialogue doesn't count.

 

The stacks bug along broke SO many classes, and it once again makes me question how their patch could have possibly broke that part of the damn game, this spaghetti code just gets more and more tangled every month.

 

It completely crippled progression and competition for some teams doing Master Mode Operations or Ranked PvP until fixed, totally inexcusable.

[aeterno]

How are folks surprised at this stage?

 

I lost count how many times the gearing/progression system got reworked/"augmented".

 

They don't do these things cos they're on some quest for the perfect system, they're doing it to re-dangle the carrot of grinding the existing endgame content for the 7th time.

 

Metrics probably showed them the critical mass of people grinded for the BIS set bonuses of the whole "horizontal progression" thing and playtime went down. Presto, next trick in the bag.

 

If you don't have resources for proper expansions this is what you have to do.

 

We'll see if that changes next cycle now that Anthem is dead and buried.

[FlameYOL]

I was about to post something akin to "the game needs something in addition to conquest" when lo and behold, out comes the 6.3 announcement.

 

Totally looking forward to Galactic Seasons!

Same, I love the idea of giving additional cosmetic rewards based on completing content in the game. Its something games that my friends play have, season mechanics, and I'm glad Bioware is considering implementing a system like this. This is also a good way to rotate items that are no longer present in the game, as well as giving an additional revenue for cartel market items that don't involve the GTN or Cartel Coins... I know Gods from the Machine drops a few cartel market items related to the bosses, so its good to see another revenue for this. As well as extra rewards for us subscribers.

[DarkTergon]

Same, I love the idea of giving additional cosmetic rewards based on completing content in the game.

 

I do like that, but what if it's stuff I don't like to do, and it stops me getting said rewards? I know they said some stuff can be skipped, and I've no problem paying credits to skip it, but what if it's CC's only to skip. Again, it's a wait and see

 

This is also a good way to rotate items that are no longer present in the game, as well as giving an additional revenue for cartel market items that don't involve the GTN or Cartel Coins....

 

Yes, it's great that it's going to bring old rewards back in this fashion

 

I know Gods from the Machine drops a few cartel market items related to the bosses, so its good to see another revenue for this. As well as extra rewards for us subscribers.

 

? What CM items drop?

[Mikalar]

Alot of whining here lol. Bioware is not forcing anyone to play these new features.

 

Agreed. Get additional free stuff for playing the game that I have been playing is OK with me!

[DarkTergon]

Agreed. Get additional free stuff for playing the game that I have been playing is OK with me!

 

It's not free, you have to work for it We just have to wait and see how much work

Edited March 19, 2021 by DarkTergon

[Drew_Braxton]

Seems like a knock off of the Star Trek Online Endeavor system. Nothing wrong benchmarking other games, but they must have missed the other new content added. Just adding a system where we get more by doing the same old crap even more?

 

First there was the dumbing down of talent trees which was supposed to make updates easier. Wow, it sucked, but maybe we would get more new content.

 

Then there was the dumbing down of gear and removal of pvp specific gear. Well...maybe that will free up their time to add more content.

 

Then there was level sync. We got to "enjoy" all the old content all over again...and over and over again. And over again some more. Well...maybe it will free up their time to add more new content.

 

How about getting more new content. What has passed for new content is honestly, shockingly sad compared to what other games pump out.

 

For the game listed above they added content in line with a show on a streaming service. New content and new sources of money for the company. The mandalorian was/is hugely popular. Where is the advertising? Where is the tie ins? I swear it's like bioware is allergic to making money because there have been soooooo many misses over the years.

 

NEW CONTENT. Who even asked for a reskin of character sheet or amps? Add more new content. More people would play and log in if there was more new stuff to do.

Edited March 20, 2021 by Drew_Braxton

[DreadtechSavant]

Agreed. Get additional free stuff for playing the game that I have been playing is OK with me!

 

I totally agree. I would have been logging in anyway with or without this added free stuff.

 

Do other games have such an overlly negative player base?

Edited March 20, 2021 by DreadtechSavant

[darthscotty]

I was about to post something akin to "the game needs something in addition to conquest" when lo and behold, out comes the 6.3 announcement.

 

Totally looking forward to Galactic Seasons!

 

I agree, I have soured on conquests and on paper this looks like exactly what I am looking for. We will see what the rewards are, but so far I am excited for what I am seeing.

[Stradlin]

I've always hoped TOR would get seasons similar to Diablo 3 for example! I hope this is it! Looks quite fun and promising so far.

 

I hope the objectives, even sometimes, are fun,unique and challenging. As opposed to being just trivial easy and worn out busywork. Here's hoping for some kinda fresh oiut of the box stuff. Or at least things that make people redifine their comfort zones a bit. If it's gonna boil down to stuff like " kill 100 mobs on Hoth" and " do BT on any difficulty" or "do a class storyline mission" I'll be posting some sad smileys for sure.

 

Hopefully each season is unique. I have a funny feeling they'll trivialize things by having 4 "seasons" rotate each month or something. Based on what I've read so far, this can be something really fun and interesting...or it can be kinda watered down and pointless.

Edited March 20, 2021 by Stradlin

[GeneralGyro]

i dont know why people need 150 companions.

[mike_carton]

The stacks bug along broke SO many classes, and it once again makes me question how their patch could have possibly broke that part of the damn game, this spaghetti code just gets more and more tangled every month.

 

It completely crippled progression and competition for some teams doing Master Mode Operations or Ranked PvP until fixed, totally inexcusable.

 

I believe companies are now expected to have automated testing software that can test other software (this'd be the software that the company is actually selling) to make sure that the changes they make don't break existing functionality. This is supposed to be software testing software, so the testing software can run 24x7 and ensure that any change the programmers made didn't break working programs. Doesn't look like BW has heard of that trend.

Edited March 20, 2021 by mike_carton