EAFSAMWISE Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 As of the most recent mission briefing "Conflicting Priorities" released with the most recent update after the "Spirit of Vengeance" Flashpoint, it looks like we'll be headed to a series of planets where ppl are calling for aid in fighting the opposing faction and where we'll have some sort of "field test" to bring some of these skilled assets "into the fold" of our Alliance afterward. On the Pub side, it looks like the first of these will be on Balmorra and will involve recruiting Zenith, whom I understand is one of the few remaining class companions that till now hasn't officially gotten a mission to be reunited with the player. This brought to mind one of the other few class companions who hasn't officially gotten a chance to be reunited or come back officially in the story--Tanno Vik, from the Trooper story. Everyone meets him on Asylum in KOTFE too, which potentially sets up at least a little background for meeting him again regardless of class story. I know his voice actor has since passed away, but I doubt it would be so difficult to get somebody else to replace him and voice the character for a brief mission. It sounds too like we will be making the rounds of a series of planets to help us fight the opposing faction, Zenith on Balmorra being the first. Should we thus expect Tanno Vik to turn up again and be one of these recruits? Aside from the usual response of, "you can get them back through the companion terminal on Odessen," why is or is it not a possibility in the story?? Please share your thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Zenith isn't "one of the few", but in fact the *only* one we haven't yet at least met in some way. As for Tanno Vik, well, only one of his VAs passed away - the French and German VAs are, as far as I know, still with us. And we've had our chance with him. For Troopers, he's available from the terminal, but not for other classes (the terminal is only for recovering companions you used to have, and for non-Troopers, he was *never* a companion). I'm of the opinion that companions should not be simple extensions of the player character's will. Instead, they should be what BioWare has mostly made them be: their own selves who happen to (or not to) hang with us. Tanno's cameo in Chapters VI and VIII of KotFE made it supremely clear that he wasn't interesting any more in hanging with us, and if so, then so be it. Let them be who *they* are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkTergon Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Tanno has a kill option, but even if you don't kill him, I think it has been said he gets killed in the attack by arcann, either way I don't think we'll see him again. Not sure if this was officially said, or just speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EAFSAMWISE Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 Tanno has a kill option, but even if you don't kill him, I think it has been said he gets killed in the attack by arcann, either way I don't think we'll see him again. Not sure if this was officially said, or just speculation. To be fair, don't we have the option to kill Arcann himself and if we don't then we can recruit him eventually? The whole, "we had the option to kill them, therefore they can't appear anymore in the future" argument doesn't add up. That too I doubt Tanno Vik or Zenith will become significant in terms of dialogue beyond their initial recruitment missions and one or two subsequent conversations. They'll just become part of the crowd in the Alliance like Kaliyo and Jorgan did if we kept them. I recall it saying that Zenith was simply the first of a number of "assets" whom the Alliance was hoping to recruit, so that means we are getting more comps. Tanno Vik is the only class comp besides Scorpio and Zenith who can't be recruited back formally but requires using the portal so it's logical to assume he's an option for those who didn't kill him and that he survived somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkTergon Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 To be fair, don't we have the option to kill Arcann himself and if we don't then we can recruit him eventually? The whole, "we had the option to kill them, therefore they can't appear anymore in the future" argument doesn't add up. That too I doubt Tanno Vik or Zenith will become significant in terms of dialogue beyond their initial recruitment missions and one or two subsequent conversations. They'll just become part of the crowd in the Alliance like Kaliyo and Jorgan did if we kept them. I recall it saying that Zenith was simply the first of a number of "assets" whom the Alliance was hoping to recruit, so that means we are getting more comps. Tanno Vik is the only class comp besides Scorpio and Zenith who can't be recruited back formally but requires using the portal so it's logical to assume he's an option for those who didn't kill him and that he survived somehow You can recruit arcann, if you don't kill him, but you can't get him back from the terminal if you do kill him. Tanno Vik is never recruited by the non trooper player, so only a trooper can get him back. Scorpio was recruited, and can be called back from the terminal (or was at least, haven't tried recently) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EAFSAMWISE Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 You can recruit arcann, if you don't kill him, but you can't get him back from the terminal if you do kill him. Tanno Vik is never recruited by the non trooper player, so only a trooper can get him back. Scorpio was recruited, and can be called back from the terminal (or was at least, haven't tried recently) That's understandable right now, I'm just listing the recruitment of Tanno as a possibility in the future bc there was never a full-on mission to get him back for Troopers and since everyone has met him, I wondered if he could be one of those "assets" to which Lana was referring, alongside Zenith, whom we are going to be able to recruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Tanno Vik is the only class comp besides Scorpio and Zenith who can't be recruited back formally but requires using the portal so it's logical to assume he's an option for those who didn't kill him and that he survived somehow It's not even remotely logical to assume that. A companion recovered from the terminal is one of two things: * A class companion that you had before and want to be able to use in crafting etc. until the formal return. * A KotFE/ET companion that didn't survive the experience in some way(1), and you want to be able to use afterwards.(2) In both cases, however, the companion is not part of the story while in that state. (1) It's worth noting that KV will leave in certain conditions, and if he does so, when you meet him again, you can offer him the chance to return (or you can pull out the Blade of Woe (oops, wrong game(3)) and end him), but if you offer that, he declines. He's *gone* but not *dead*, and can in either case no longer participate in the story. "A", on the other hand, was *never* a companion if you kill him, so you can't claim him from the story. (2) That is, the terminal is a form of investment protection, and it's also an afterthought. When KotFE first came out, the terminal didn't exist, and people complained loudly about how they invested all this time and credits and blah blah blah (she makes monsters) in their companions and now they're gone until we don't know when and ... It was actually a reasonable complaint, for once. (3) It's part of the Dark Brotherhood DLC in ESO, a sort of mystical dagger that you can use on human-like foes that aren't "boss-like" for an instant kill from behind if you're in "stealth" (everyone has stealth). The miniature cutscenes that accompany this are filled with gloriously brutal violence.(4) (4) Ranging from simply cutting the foe's throat on upwards, with copious sprays of blood, stabs, trip-and-stab, stab-stab-stab, tap onshoulder and multistab when the foe turns, etc. I've even seen my character just jam the Blade in the space just behind and below the ear. Sorry. I really enjoy watching them because there are some rare versions that show up from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandrilaDeler Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Since Tanno can't be recruited, can making Kira recruitable by all classes be made doable to compensate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Since Tanno can't be recruited, can making Kira recruitable by all classes be made doable to compensate? She's still in the companion list of my Jugg that's run through EoO and SoV, so no, it can't be *made* doable, because it *already*is*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandrilaDeler Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Meaning the part below doesn't contradict itself? Returns: After Onslaught Expansion Alliance Alert (Jedi Knight Only): Alliance Alert The Padawan Returns Recruitable By: All Characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Meaning the part below doesn't contradict itself? Returns: After Onslaught Expansion Alliance Alert (Jedi Knight Only): Alliance Alert The Padawan Returns Recruitable By: All Characters Correct. It doesn't. There's a special alliance alert for Knights, but it isn't a *recruitment* alert. In effect, it's a romance-(re)launch alert that you receive for an already-recruited companion. (Arcann has something similar.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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