Cineo Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Trying to optimize my rotation. My question is it only optimal to cast TT when the proc is up or should i pepper it in-between dist casts. As it stands as long as my dots are up and my procs are down I'm just spamming dist. Should I be throwing TT in there even if the proc is not up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saseav Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) Trying to optimize my rotation. My question is it only optimal to cast TT when the proc is up or should i pepper it in-between dist casts. As it stands as long as my dots are up and my procs are down I'm just spamming dist. Should I be throwing TT in there even if the proc is not up? eh it really depends. are there more then one? go for it won't hurt, weaken mind/disturbance are basically the bread and butter of the telekinetic tree anyway. woops misread. yea use it it does more damage, but keep disturbance up Edited December 30, 2011 by Saseav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchonSaar Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 TT does more damage in 3 seconds than Dist (2x1,5s) if you don't get pushed back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vealage Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) TT does do more damage, but Tele relies on the procs from disturbance. I would always use that. Use TT when the buff process and TWave when the buff process and Turbulence whenever possible. Otherwise, use Disturbance. Edited December 30, 2011 by Vealage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bo-zo Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 So far, the priority list from AstralFire's guide seems the most efficient to me : Single Target Priority List: 0. Weaken Mind (if not active) 1. Disturbance (Less than 3 stacks of Concentration) 2. Mind Crush 3. Turbulence 4. Telekinetic Wave (Tidal Force active) 5. Telekinetic Throw (Psychic Projection active) 6. Disturbance Area Priority List: 0. Weaken Mind (if not applied) 1. Turbulence 2. Telekinetic Wave 3. Forcequake Low Intensity List: 0. Weaken Mind (if not applied) 1. Telekinetic Throw (Psychic Projection) 2. Disturbance (Less than 3 stacks) 3. Telekinetic Throw (cooldown) 4. Disturbance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khadroth Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) Trying to optimize my rotation. My question is it only optimal to cast TT when the proc is up or should i pepper it in-between dist casts. As it stands as long as my dots are up and my procs are down I'm just spamming dist. Should I be throwing TT in there even if the proc is not up? If you're talking about leveling, sure go ahead, I used project and TKthrow all the time while leveling, as crap just doesn't stay alive long enough. If you're talking about a sustained dps setting like a boss fight though. No, don't use TKthrow off its proc. Remember dist spam will refresh your regen buff and proc tidal wave for instant TKwaves (which seems to have a very short internal cooldown if any), you really do want to be spamming it. So far, the priority list from AstralFire's guide seems the most efficient to me : Single Target Priority List: 0. Weaken Mind (if not active) 1. Disturbance (Less than 3 stacks of Concentration) 2. Mind Crush 3. Turbulence 4. Telekinetic Wave (Tidal Force active) 5. Telekinetic Throw (Psychic Projection active) 6. Disturbance Area Priority List: 0. Weaken Mind (if not applied) 1. Turbulence 2. Telekinetic Wave 3. Forcequake Low Intensity List: 0. Weaken Mind (if not applied) 1. Telekinetic Throw (Psychic Projection) 2. Disturbance (Less than 3 stacks) 3. Telekinetic Throw (cooldown) 4. Disturbance Astral probably wouldn't like it if I ripped his guide a new one, but honestly there's some problems here. Turbulence will always be higher priority than Mind Crush. It auto-crits which applies effusion and is more efficient. The AOE priority list is a bit misleading. You shouldn't just walk into a pull tab dotting weaken mind on stuff. You're better leading with a well timed hard cast TKwave, then tab dotting, then quaking for tidal force procs. That said, yes weaken mind tab-dotting will take priority in sustained aoe situations, assuming the adds are of course being controlled by a tank. The Low intensity list doesn't even have Turbulence which again forces Effusion procs... and should be right behind weaken mind because of this despite it's expense. Basically all you want to cut out in this situation are tidal force procs (TKwave is more expensive than Turb even) and Mind Crush. Again though you're really not likely to encounter this, because it operates under the assumption that you can't just stagger Noble Sacrifice as you begin to get low. In other words, you have to deal sustained dmg for a long enough period to run OOF while taking heavy dmg at the same time. Will only happen on heavy aoe bosses. Edited December 30, 2011 by Khadroth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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