Benirons Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 Way too powerful imo. In the particular scenario, i was aware of the stealther, but they were not aware of me (yeyy stealth lvl 10). So i CCed them when i thought they would be passed to. Except i did not realise that it was a juggy tank carrying the ball. They didnt give a damn, and just straight up leapt to their stealther ally. This is highly problematic, cause this is ridiculously difficult to counter. Typically when a ball carrier takes the low path, it is safe to assume they want to pass to someone. When they do pass, there is a window to counter the move by either standing inside the pass zone, or just CCing the receiver. When it is a juggy, the defenders neet to make sure to kb any targets off of the high ground and to also not provide a target to be leapt to. With a stealther, well.... that is easier said than done. Stealth scan is pretty bloody small, and most classes dont have massive aoes they can spam freely (stuff like force lightning or suppressive fire, others r tiny). And GL trying to kill a jug tank b4 they get whitebared. So yeah, pls address this, highly unbalanced.
BRKMSN Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 Did you try asking the other team nicely to please stop winning?
Nemmar Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) I thought it wasn't possible to intercede with the huttball anymore. You sure he wasn't pulled by a sorc? Will have to try it again. Maybe it's a bug with stealth or something. Edit: i was on my operative today and a jugg totally interceded to me while stealthed on the vanilla map. Really weird cause i recall trying on mine and the button being grayed out. Guess i will be trying it now. Maybe it was a merc net or something back in the day giving me that impression. Edited May 16, 2019 by Nemmar
Benirons Posted May 15, 2019 Author Posted May 15, 2019 I thought it wasn't possible to intercede with the huttball anymore. You sure he wasn't pulled by a sorc? Will have to try it again. Maybe it's a bug with stealth or something. Im 100% sure the juggy tank interceded to a stealthed assassin (they were purple stealthed). The stealthed assassin was also stealth CCed by me (lol). Pretty broken. Next time i see that kind of situation developing, ill just KB the stealther off the ledge. But i will have a hella hard time seeing whats going on on most of my toons.
Benirons Posted May 15, 2019 Author Posted May 15, 2019 You do realise there is a pvp forum section? Did not know actually, not much of a forumer. Ill take my future grievances over there.
TrixxieTriss Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 Did not know actually, not much of a forumer. Ill take my future grievances over there. Probably better if it’s only pvp related. Usually these threads get moved there anyway.
taxidermis Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 I was under the impression that 1. Intercede cant be used while carrying huttball, and 2, that intercede removed folks from stealth? Been a while since I did pvp regularly though
Azerraak Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 I was under the impression that 1. Intercede cant be used while carrying huttball, and 2, that intercede removed folks from stealth? Been a while since I did pvp regularly though Leaps, intercede as well as the shadow/sin/scoundrel/operative abilities all work on the original huttball map. They don't work on the Quesh map. I'm not 100% sure about Vandin but I kinda remember seeing juggs leap up on that map. Carrying the huttball doesn't stop it and intercede doesn't break the stealth of the person getting leapt to. There are other tactics just as annoying as intercede. PT translocate and sorc pull do the job too. Your options are either control mid so they don't get the ball, kill the carrier or kill/knock off the stealther. Of course it's kinda rare that these things happen since everyone just deathmatches in their own pits most of the time.
Benirons Posted May 15, 2019 Author Posted May 15, 2019 Leaps, intercede as well as the shadow/sin/scoundrel/operative abilities all work on the original huttball map. They don't work on the Quesh map. I'm not 100% sure about Vandin but I kinda remember seeing juggs leap up on that map. Carrying the huttball doesn't stop it and intercede doesn't break the stealth of the person getting leapt to. There are other tactics just as annoying as intercede. PT translocate and sorc pull do the job too. Your options are either control mid so they don't get the ball, kill the carrier or kill/knock off the stealther. Of course it's kinda rare that these things happen since everyone just deathmatches in their own pits most of the time. Yeah this was not the quesh huttball, but either one of the other 2. Maybe the original i think with the fire pits only. Sorc pull u can see a mile away, duh its a sorc. PT translocate has a long *** CD. And the occasion detailed in the OP, the intercede did not reveal the stealther, they remained cloaked. Regardless, quick losses/wins r counterintuitive/annoying cause u just dont have time to get 8 medals (which is a good chunk of conquest points). One time i actively participated in a quick win (nobody seemed to try to stop us) not a single individual got 8 medals, not even the person i passed the ball to to score.
TrixxieTriss Posted May 15, 2019 Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) Yeah this was not the quesh huttball, but either one of the other 2. Maybe the original i think with the fire pits only. Sorc pull u can see a mile away, duh its a sorc. PT translocate has a long *** CD. And the occasion detailed in the OP, the intercede did not reveal the stealther, they remained cloaked. Regardless, quick losses/wins r counterintuitive/annoying cause u just dont have time to get 8 medals (which is a good chunk of conquest points). One time i actively participated in a quick win (nobody seemed to try to stop us) not a single individual got 8 medals, not even the person i passed the ball to to score. Intercede and force leap both work with the ball in all forms of HB, including Quesh. The difference is Quesh has a bug on the goal line area and you cannot normally leap in there. I often leap or use intercede with the ball. I just leap to someone on the pipes instead. This is how you get your 8 medals in HB when no one is trying to stop you scoring. Pass the ball back and forth between you. Take it in turns to score and pick up the ball. When you get to 5 goals ahead, attack some random people and get some quick dps, guard or healing numbers. When you get 5-6 medals, score the last goal and you’ll get 2-3 medals for winning. Edited May 15, 2019 by TrixxieTriss
foxmob Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 I thought it wasn't possible to intercede with the huttball anymore. You sure he wasn't pulled by a sorc? Will have to try it again. Maybe it's a bug with stealth or something. Edit: i was on my operative today and a jugg totally interceded to me while stealthed on the vanilla map. Really weird cause i recall trying on mine and the button being grayed out. Guess i will be trying it now. Maybe it was a merc net or something back in the day giving me that impression. mine was also grayed out in queshball when I was on rage spec. it led me to ask when they took intercede away and ppl laughed. sure enough, it was available later in the match. I did have the ball at the time, so that could be it, but I suspect programer failure (invisible wall).
Banderal Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 In my experience using shadow stride with my Shadow, it's bugged for both Quesh and original HB. I'm not sure about the 3rd map, because I haven't stayed in enough Vandin games to notice. But most definitely in both the first two HB maps it will just sometimes work and sometimes not. This is independent of the bug where you don't actually end up where you are supposed to. For example, standing on the "other side" of the last fire pit in original HB, or of the last acid trap in Quesh, I will always try to port over to an enemy on the other side (except snipers ). Sometimes it activates, sometimes not. Been like that for a long long time. I'm pretty sure that my jugger leap works the same way, but I don't play my jugger as much so I'm not positive. And actually using intercede... lol... that would mean my team was actively playing huttball and moving ahead for passes and stuff. You think you are going to convince me that ANYONE does that anymore... you are so funny.
TrixxieTriss Posted May 17, 2019 Posted May 17, 2019 I'm pretty sure that my jugger leap works the same way, but I don't play my jugger as much so I'm not positive. And actually using intercede... lol... that would mean my team was actively playing huttball and moving ahead for passes and stuff. You think you are going to convince me that ANYONE does that anymore... you are so funny. I do it Used it a few times last night.
Banderal Posted May 17, 2019 Posted May 17, 2019 I do it Used it a few times last night. Clips or it didn't happen!!!!! :p
TrixxieTriss Posted May 17, 2019 Posted May 17, 2019 Clips or it didn't happen!!!!! :p LoL, I wish I could record. Today I was on fire in HB tonight. 5 matches and 5 wins. 16-19 medals each match and I scored 13 goals and assisted all the other scorers. The funniest match was against this really old guild who used to be on the APAC servers. They were a 4 man premade and I still single handedly stopped them scoring 5 times 😎
WayOfTheWarriorx Posted May 18, 2019 Posted May 18, 2019 LoL, I wish I could record. Today I was on fire in HB tonight. 5 matches and 5 wins. 16-19 medals each match and I scored 13 goals and assisted all the other scorers. The funniest match was against this really old guild who used to be on the APAC servers. They were a 4 man premade and I still single handedly stopped them scoring 5 times 😎 I use a program called FRAPs for recording videos in game, it's really easy actually, only problem is it's not really designed for long videos and the files are huge. Something that's like 30 seconds long is like 700MBs heh. But for short clips it's very easy and works good, you can also take screen shots with it but the save window always opens up right in the middle of screen so it's not really good if you can't pause and save the file name and such. You can use the video in game tho because it will cut off on it's own after a period of time and doesnt force save window on you immediately.
TrixxieTriss Posted May 18, 2019 Posted May 18, 2019 (edited) I use a program called FRAPs for recording videos in game, it's really easy actually, only problem is it's not really designed for long videos and the files are huge. Something that's like 30 seconds long is like 700MBs heh. But for short clips it's very easy and works good, you can also take screen shots with it but the save window always opens up right in the middle of screen so it's not really good if you can't pause and save the file name and such. You can use the video in game tho because it will cut off on it's own after a period of time and doesnt force save window on you immediately. Too much micro stutter for me. Anything that accesses the memory buffer or cpu resources or graphics resources will cause these, even with top end PCs. This isn’t a problem for most people because they play with lag under 60ms. So it’s probably not even noticeable. Higher lag requires all my PC resources to be streamlined so that the only thing that can affect the game is actual lag its self. I have to squeeze every ounce of performance I can. My pc setup is right at the edge of optimisation for this game. I’ve Windows reg hacks in place to turn off stuff as well as services and other BG apps disabled. It’s running on the edge (its why identifying anything weird stands out so much to me) Edit: sending you a PM Edited May 18, 2019 by TrixxieTriss
WayOfTheWarriorx Posted May 18, 2019 Posted May 18, 2019 Too much micro stutter for me. Anything that accesses the memory buffer or cpu resources or graphics resources will cause these, even with top end PCs. This isn’t a problem for most people because they play with lag under 60ms. So it’s probably not even noticeable. Higher lag requires all my PC resources to be streamlined so that the only thing that can affect the game is actual lag its self. I have to squeeze every ounce of performance I can. My pc setup is right at the edge of optimisation for this game. I’ve Windows reg hacks in place to turn off stuff as well as services and other BG apps disabled. It’s running on the edge (its why identifying anything weird stands out so much to me) Edit: sending you a PM I actually got the PM before I even saw this now heh. Responded that way.
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