Dudemanjac Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Why should I have to buy one or have a snazzy phone? I have a computer worth well over a thousand dollars. Why can't I do it with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogenetic Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Sigh... /10char Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stabbz Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Then dont use one? How hard is it? Why make a post about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theonepanda Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 er...what? I mean, so I tried to think up an analogy for you, to show you how ridiculous your assumption that just because your computer is worth thousands means its secure is, but I couldn't really. Brain fart. Anyway um...its because...its like a key...to play swtor...and you can buy a dongle too I believe, its like 5 bucks. Which I'm sure you can afford, since you have a multiple thousand dollar computer. You don't...put your key in your car, cause...that does nothing? Does that makes sense? I dunno, i'm struggling with an analogy here lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherRoad Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) Having remote security is just that. Remote. Away from your machine. It's made to be on your person and separate from whatever you're trying to secure. If someone manages to keylog your machine, they'd have both logins. If your machine is lost or stolen, they could have both. Not having a separate key kinda makes it all moot. Edited December 29, 2011 by AnotherRoad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airinya Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Why should I have to buy one or have a snazzy phone? I have a computer worth well over a thousand dollars. Why can't I do it with that? K... I just laughed really hard... and maybe peed a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogenetic Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 K... I just laughed really hard... and maybe peed a little. LOL! /char Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAnaethil Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Why should I have to buy one or have a snazzy phone? I have a computer worth well over a thousand dollars. Why can't I do it with that? wowwwwwwwwwww. that's all I got to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAnaethil Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 er...what? I mean, so I tried to think up an analogy for you, to show you how ridiculous your assumption that just because your computer is worth thousands means its secure is, but I couldn't really. Brain fart. Anyway um...its because...its like a key...to play swtor...and you can buy a dongle too I believe, its like 5 bucks. Which I'm sure you can afford, since you have a multiple thousand dollar computer. You don't...put your key in your car, cause...that does nothing? Does that makes sense? I dunno, i'm struggling with an analogy here lol. A good analogy is, "Do you keep your house keys in the keyhole of your front door?" or Where a t-shirt that says my Bank account number is so and so and here's my SS. **** like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahana Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 K... I just laughed really hard... and maybe peed a little. +1 Internets to you.. btw I think I threw up a little.. but just a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSerparic Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 wow over a thousand dollars like maybe 900 pound in English money omg that's like so cool your the don....on a serious note stop trolling you ****** if you don't want a authenticator then don't get one ill look forward to your next topic on how you got hacked but your pc was so awesome you shouldn't of been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evenios Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 its only 5 bucks. if you get the CE you get it with it included :-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airinya Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 +1 Internets to you.. btw I think I threw up a little.. but just a little. Did you swallow it though or spit it back out? Real champs swallow the baby pukies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudemanjac Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 Thank you, Another Road. I was fuzzy on this. I guess I just assumed that because I have to use an authenticator to log into my office network from home that it was a similar concept. Excuse my ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAnaethil Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Did you swallow it though or spit it back out? Real champs swallow the baby pukies. What if the baby pukies was old baby pukies. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicForce Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I work in IT security and although having the authenticator on your PC (which would be easy for them to do) would add a level of security, the best security is by having the authenticator be on a separate device that you have to have in order to login. This way, in order to login to your account you have to know your password, plus you have to have a separate device that provides you with your passcode. This type of authentication is very secure and drastically reduces the likelihood of unauthorized access to your account and also prevents someone that has access to your computer (locally or via hacking) and who knows your password from being able to log in. It is likely because of the reasons above that BioWare/EA does not produce a PC version of the authenticator software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telske Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) Am I the only one that thinks security should be part of the package when you buy software for an mmo these days? And not just the $150 package, either. I could understand having to buy an authenticator separately when hacking became a serious issue a few years ago. Prior to that, it hadn't been such a widespread problem, but now it really should be the responsibility of the publisher to choose and implement a means of protection for their customers up front and at the point of initial purchase. It's ridiculous to make it an optional separate fee. Edited December 29, 2011 by Telske Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahana Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Did you swallow it though or spit it back out? Real champs swallow the baby pukies. I had to swallow.. I'm at work and the office manager would have made me clean the carpets if I didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudemanjac Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 Wow. I've been curious about this for a long time and was really afraid to ask because of exactly what happened. Thanks again to the intelligent answers. I asked an honest question. I wasn't trolling or bragging about my computer. I'm not a cheapskate or too broke to buy an authenticator. I just wanted to know why if there are apps and I have one on my computer for another purpose why I would need to buy or get another device. I got my answer and everything else I need to know about the community here. I remember why I never hang out in this forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airinya Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Am I the only one that thinks security should be part of the package when you buy software for an mmo these days? And not just the $150 package, either. I could understand having to buy an authenticator separately when hacking became a serious issue a few years ago in WOW. Prior to that, it hadn't been such a widespread problem, but now it really should be the responsibility of the publisher to chose and implement a means of protection for their customers up front and at the point of initial purchase. It's ridiculous to make it an optional separate fee. They have passwords and in SWTOR security questions when you're logging on from a new location. Authenticators are free, assuming you have a smart phone, and many people don't actually purchase hardcopies of the game anymore to put authenticators in even if they wanted to. How do you propose they secure everyone's account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airinya Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Wow. I've been curious about this for a long time and was really afraid to ask because of exactly what happened. Thanks again to the intelligent answers. I asked an honest question. I wasn't trolling or bragging about my computer. I'm not a cheapskate or too broke to buy an authenticator. I just wanted to know why if there are apps and I have one on my computer for another purpose why I would need to buy or get another device. I got my answer and everything else I need to know about the community here. I remember why I never hang out in this forums. You might want to go back and read the first two lines of your post and then ask yourself, again, why people responded the way they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telske Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) They have passwords and in SWTOR security questions when you're logging on from a new location. Authenticators are free, assuming you have a smart phone, and many people don't actually purchase hardcopies of the game anymore to put authenticators in even if they wanted to. How do you propose they secure everyone's account? I would propose they bundle an authenticator into any hard copies they sell and ship you one if you buy via digital download. Other games ask you to select a numeric code (the method I've seen used requires a ten digit code) and you plug it in on log in, every time. (I've never been prompted with any of the questions I was asked to answer when I originally signed up for SWTOR.) Edited December 29, 2011 by Telske Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudemanjac Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 By providing free authenticators to everyone. He's right. If they are in such fear of this happening, it kinda should be their responsibility. My WoW acct has been hack a couple of times but only after I stopped using it and let it sit idle for years. All my other games seem to be fine, but I'd be sad otherwise. Guess I will go pick an authenticator up, now that the internets is scaring me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamajawn Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) OP: Two-factor authentication is common where extra security is needed. For instance, I have a VPN (virtual private network) set up to work remotely. A simple login and password isn't that secure, since there is a lot of valuable data on the work network. So, I'm provided with a key fob that produces a random number that can only be seen if I am in possession of the fob. Thus, my password AND the 2nd key are needed to obtain access. It adds another level of security-you can have the login and password, but without the fob you can't get in. Edited December 29, 2011 by Bamajawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudemanjac Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 You might want to go back and read the first two lines of your post and then ask yourself, again, why people responded the way they did. Nothing wrong with the questions I asked unless you assume I'm trolling or some entitled douche bag out of the box. Sorry I didn't put the appropriate smiley to set my tone. They were plain honest questions that didn't deserve the response. But whatever. I'm a big boy. I should be surprised or disappointed by the childish responses I get. Well actually I will continue to be disappointed, as I am with a lot of things in the world. But shame on me for being surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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