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Courting Gifts Have No Effect on Theron.

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Paziqi

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They actually work on Doc, which surprised me. Don't know if it's just after the Ossus reunion or not, don't have another JK to try them with.

 

As far as I can tell, companions who liked or loved them before being romanced, still like/love them after being romanced. But they don't work on comps who are supposed to like/love them only after starting a romance.

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Phazonfreak

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The amazing thing is the lack of response from the dev team on any bug. Are they paid or what?

 

I would not call that lack of response. Slow and not the bugs you would personally prioritize maybe, but not lack thereof, especially during Coronatimes. I do hope they still get paid to deal with some of the entitlement they encounter.

 

Hi sebakonkol,

 

Thank you for the report, I've sent you PM for additional information concerning the Republic Fleet bug.

 

Thanks.

 

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks for the reports.

 

This bug concerning the Heroic quest "The Shroud revealed" is currently being tracked by our team. I will update you if I have additional information about it.

 

Hi folks,

 

Thank you for the different reports.

 

As mentioned above by QA_Droid, our team is aware of the issue and still working on a fix.

 

For now, I don't have additional information. I'll update you when I have more.

 

Thank you.

 

Hi there,

 

Thanks for the reports.

 

I transferred the information provided to our team. I will update you if I have additional information about it.

 

Thank you.

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SteveTheCynic

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I would not call that lack of response. Slow and not the bugs you would personally prioritize maybe, but not lack thereof, especially during Coronatimes. I do hope they still get paid to deal with some of the entitlement they encounter.

Rubbish. This bug has been complained about in these forums (and frequently mischaracterised(1), but nevermindthat) ever since 4.0 dropped in October 2015. The "romanced companion really really likes these gifts as in like wow over the top stuff man" feature of Courting gifts stopped working when 4.0 was released, and the BioWare staff have remained resolutely silent on the issue ever since.

 

How long does it take to get a comment - even just a simple "er, yeah, we know, it's supposed to be like that" - from them?

 

(1) People often describe it as "Courting gifts don't give any Influence" or "Courting gifts don't work at all", whereas in fact the only thing that doesn't work is the special bonus when you give them to a romanced companion.

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I would not call that lack of response. Slow and not the bugs you would personally prioritize maybe, but not lack thereof, especially during Coronatimes. I do hope they still get paid to deal with some of the entitlement they encounter.

 

Solved? Or just fanboying around?

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Rubbish. This bug has been complained about in these forums (and frequently mischaracterised(1), but nevermindthat) ever since 4.0 dropped in October 2015.

 

I am not talking about this specific unresolved bug but only put into perspective his hyperbolic claim that BioWare never gives any response to any of the bug threads on this forum and his rather coy remark about them getting paid.

 

Solved? Or just fanboying around?

 

Unresolved like a lot of other bugs, unfortunately, but annoyed by your gaslighting. If that makes me fanboying around or a white knight or whatever the term for people who don't immediately jump on the bandwagon, so be it.

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I am not talking about this specific unresolved bug but only put into perspective his hyperbolic claim that BioWare never gives any response to any of the bug threads on this forum and his rather coy remark about them getting paid.

 

 

 

Unresolved like a lot of other bugs, unfortunately, but annoyed by your gaslighting. If that makes me fanboying around or a white knight or whatever the term for people who don't immediately jump on the bandwagon, so be it.

 

People like to stew in their bitterness and only see the worst in everything. It's a pity, but what can you do, everyone has a choice as to how to behave.

 

As to the thread subject, just use a Commander's Compendium to boost up your companion influence. It saves the time of having to click each individual companion gift time and again.

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I am still receiving courting gifts as part of rewards from heroic boxes. If they don't want to fix the gifts, at least stop giving them out as rewards. This bug has made it thru far too many updates at this point not to be resolved. At least stopped reminding us of your failure by giving us items that we can't use until you fix your mistake
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I am still receiving courting gifts as part of rewards from heroic boxes. If they don't want to fix the gifts, at least stop giving them out as rewards. This bug has made it thru far too many updates at this point not to be resolved. At least stopped reminding us of your failure by giving us items that we can't use until you fix your mistake

It's probably the *companions* that are broken. And we *can* use Courting gifts. Companions who (before 4.0) gained Affection from Courting gifts even when not romanced, e.g. Doc, M1-4X(1), etc. still gain Influence from them, and certain 4.0+ companions get Influence from them.

 

The only thing that *changed* (I'm not prepared to say for sure that it "broke", but it might be the case) is the special bonus for giving Courting gifts to the person you're courting.

 

(1) Yes, he does. I have no idea what he does with them. Maybe he raffles them off to support his campaign to boost Republic troop morale.

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It's probably the *companions* that are broken. And we *can* use Courting gifts. Companions who (before 4.0) gained Affection from Courting gifts even when not romanced, e.g. Doc, M1-4X(1), etc. still gain Influence from them, and certain 4.0+ companions get Influence from them.

 

The only thing that *changed* (I'm not prepared to say for sure that it "broke", but it might be the case) is the special bonus for giving Courting gifts to the person you're courting.

 

(1) Yes, he does. I have no idea what he does with them. Maybe he raffles them off to support his campaign to boost Republic troop morale.

The courting bonuses broke when the influence system was changed, I think it's the system, some obscure bug that BW will never figure out where the code went wrong.

 

No gift that changes its influence power based on player choices changes it anymore, except for Jaesa since those choices are made *before* she's your companion.

 

Regardless, no one wants to give a companion gift to their companion when it doesn't give the greatest possible amount of points, especially since Fallen Empire when you're guaranteed to find a comp. who likes the gift more. Most comps can't be romanced so won't respond to courting significantly, and the ones that would if you'd just romance them don't anymore (except for Doc which is why any courting I pick up is going straight to my Jedi Knight from now on, those 2 are bi asf :D)

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No gift that changes its influence power based on player choices changes it anymore, except for Jaesa since those choices are made *before* she's your companion.

That's because Jaesa isn't one companion who looks different based on your choices. No, she's two different companions, and the one you get depends on your choices. (Strong indication: there are two different Jaesa decorations, one for each version of Jaesa, and they look different.)

Regardless, no one wants to give a companion gift to their companion when it doesn't give the greatest possible amount of points, especially since Fallen Empire when you're guaranteed to find a comp. who likes the gift more. Most comps can't be romanced so won't respond to courting significantly, and the ones that would if you'd just romance them don't anymore (except for Doc which is why any courting I pick up is going straight to my Jedi Knight from now on, those 2 are bi asf :D)

I'm with you on the "want to get the maximum possible" thing, *but* it's worth distinguishing between "most you can get from *a* gift" and "most you can get from *this* gift".

 

Re: romanceable companions who still get Influence from Courting gifts even without the bonus, well, the list includes Doc and Vette and Quinn and a couple of others, actually. The list of companions who get *something* from Courting gifts is a lot longer than you'd think, and includes some oddities, notably M1-4X, but I think (if you have him) the one that gives the most is actually Nico Okarr.

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eabevella

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4 hours ago, SteveTheCynic said:

Given the lack of movement on this issue since the back end of 2015, I'd say that it's the way it's meant (by BioWare) to be, even if it isn't the way we'd want it to be.

Ugh, I have too many courting gifts in my legacy cargo it's annoying.

If I left problems unfixed for 7 years, let's say I won't be keeping my job for that long, just saying.

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17 hours ago, eabevella said:

Ugh, I have too many courting gifts in my legacy cargo it's annoying.

So use them.  After all this time, they aren't worth hoarding.  Just hand them over to anyone who'll get *some* points from them.

17 hours ago, eabevella said:

If I left problems unfixed for 7 years, let's say I won't be keeping my job for that long, just saying.

Depends.  I've been doing the "software developer" schtick for 34 years now, and bugs get reported for all manner of good and bad reasons, and some bugs aren't worth taking time to fix, because it takes time away from fixing more serious bugs, but it also takes time away from advancing the product.  That's how bugs stick around for seven years, or even longer.

Add in my personal theory, which is that the core functionality specific to Courting gifts was tied exclusively to a particular characteristic of the launch-time companions, and that characteristic caused some other problem somewhere else when they were developing 4.0, so that core functionality had to disappear.  What's really annoying is that people have been complaining about this change ever since a few milliseconds after 4.0 launched, and BioWare have been largely silent on the matter.  (Of course, people tended in the past to describe it as "Courting gifts don't do anything at all" or "Courting gifts are completely useless", and neither of those is true...)

And it might not be a bug in BioWare's view of things, but an actually designed change, which doesn't excuse them remaining silent on the issue.

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6 hours ago, SteveTheCynic said:

So use them.  After all this time, they aren't worth hoarding.  Just hand them over to anyone who'll get *some* points from them.

Depends.  I've been doing the "software developer" schtick for 34 years now, and bugs get reported for all manner of good and bad reasons, and some bugs aren't worth taking time to fix, because it takes time away from fixing more serious bugs, but it also takes time away from advancing the product.  That's how bugs stick around for seven years, or even longer.

Add in my personal theory, which is that the core functionality specific to Courting gifts was tied exclusively to a particular characteristic of the launch-time companions, and that characteristic caused some other problem somewhere else when they were developing 4.0, so that core functionality had to disappear.  What's really annoying is that people have been complaining about this change ever since a few milliseconds after 4.0 launched, and BioWare have been largely silent on the matter.  (Of course, people tended in the past to describe it as "Courting gifts don't do anything at all" or "Courting gifts are completely useless", and neither of those is true...)

And it might not be a bug in BioWare's view of things, but an actually designed change, which doesn't excuse them remaining silent on the issue.

Guess that explains why BW ignores anything that's not literally game breaking.

I call it excuses and being incompetent. But that's not the first time BW is like this, on more "important" issues even (looking at PvP now)

 

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5 hours ago, eabevella said:

Guess that explains why BW ignores anything that's not literally game breaking.

Not *everything*, but yes.  All large-market software companies do the same thing.  Specialised stuff like e.g. spacecraft computers are a little different, of course, because debugging the software in the case of a bug when the spacecraft is halfway to Jupiter is a little harder, so the developers put in extra effort to make it right, but that's why that sort of stuff is so expensive.

5 hours ago, eabevella said:

I call it excuses and being incompetent.

I'd have said, "Heavily constrained by budgets, in money and manpower and elapsed time," myself.

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