Flapjak Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Hello! I have been playing KOTFE and Im really enjoying it, my Nephew is a big star wars fan and I stream it for him because he doesnt know how to play and he was really sad when HK 55 died but got super excited when he found out you could get him back and wants me to rebuild him. I saw he was a subscriber reward to get him back but im failing to find any other method, how do I get HK 55 quest aside from that? is there a key word I need to use in the cartel shop? My nephew is super excited about seeing him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrellma Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 He was a subscriber reward. If you weren't subbed when he was brought back, you cannot get him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulsutherland Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Replay one of the chapters that has HK-55 as a companion. When he's listed on your companion list ... bail on the chapter. So long as you never finish the chapter, he'll remain as a companion I've done the same thing with Darth Marr and Empress Acina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flapjak Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 He was a subscriber reward. If you weren't subbed when he was brought back, you cannot get him back. Wait? what? you mean hes permadeathed if I wasnt subscribed? how the hell am I supposed to explain this to my nephew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flapjak Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Replay one of the chapters that has HK-55 as a companion. When he's listed on your companion list ... bail on the chapter. So long as you never finish the chapter, he'll remain as a companion I've done the same thing with Darth Marr and Empress Acina. I appreciate the idea but my nephew knows you can replay chapters and is old enough not to fall for it, he wants to see the story scenes where I bring him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flapjak Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Now im super depressed. his heart is going to be broken when I tell him the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatRacer Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Wait? what? you mean hes permadeathed if I wasnt subscribed? how the hell am I supposed to explain this to my nephew. What's there to explain? He saw HK "die", in a heroic death to save you. If anything, it makes the sacrifice less meaningful if he's all better 15 mins later. If your nephew somehow knows that HK can come back, there should be plenty of videos on Youtube to watch it. Otherwise, the best lesson you can teach a child is that sometimes we don't always get what we want, but that it's no reason to throw a hissy fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JattaGin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Wait? what? you mean hes permadeathed if I wasnt subscribed? how the hell am I supposed to explain this to my nephew. That self-sacrifice is the official end of HK. It won't make a return (apart from the trick already mentioned in this thread). I'm sure your nephew will understand that, after all, he saw it die with his own eyes. I appreciate the idea but my nephew knows you can replay chapters and is old enough not to fall for it, he wants to see the story scenes where I bring him back. There isn't much to see. It's only an alliance alert, that means that there are no cut scenes, just some old school conversation options without animations (Classic "KotOR style" or however they named it) and some kind of mission task where you have to shoot (or not) some droids in a simulation. That means, you don't actually shoot. You just choose "shoot" or "don't shoot". Did you get HK-47 (or what was its number?) as a companion? If not, there you have a long and detailed story quest to stream for your nephew. Much better - and much, much, much longer than 55. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flapjak Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 He loved Hk55 because he was a bodygaurd and didnt go around killing people for funsys. hes a kid afterall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRKMSN Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 That self-sacrifice is the official end of HK. It won't make a return (apart from the trick already mentioned in this thread). I'm sure your nephew will understand that, after all, he saw it die with his own eyes. There isn't much to see. It's only an alliance alert, that means that there are no cut scenes, just some old school conversation options without animations (Classic "KotOR style" or however they named it) and some kind of mission task where you have to shoot (or not) some droids in a simulation. That means, you don't actually shoot. You just choose "shoot" or "don't shoot". Did you get HK-47 (or what was its number?) as a companion? If not, there you have a long and detailed story quest to stream for your nephew. Much better - and much, much, much longer than 55. This. Everybody makes it out to be a big deal that it was a sub reward. HK-55 dies. End of story. He doesn't get revived, he gets replaced. The alert mission isn't really part of the story in any way. You can youtube it to see it, but it doesn't change anything in your character's story at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 This. Everybody makes it out to be a big deal that it was a sub reward. HK-55 dies. End of story. He doesn't get revived, he gets replaced. The alert mission isn't really part of the story in any way. You can youtube it to see it, but it doesn't change anything in your character's story at all. Curiously, it's not the return-mission that people get bent out of shape over. Lots of people confuse "Arma Rasa", the return mission, with "Shroud of Memory", the play-as-HK mission.(1) The sub requirement for getting SoM was *much* more demanding than the one for getting Arma Rasa, and there's a substantial amount of hostility on both sides of the debate.(2) (1) For reason's best known to themselves, BioWare decided to call it a chapter, which lead people to treat it, somewhat, as if it is in some way an "essential" part of the main story, which of course it is not. At one time, I called it a "story-mission" because it's a bit more than just a kill-ten-rats mission(3) and has its own internal story(4), but I've decided to move fully away from the word "story", so now I call it just a mission. (2) This hostility includes a wide-scale "tar them all with the same brush" attack on the people advocating leaving it all as it is, based on them all being elitists of the "I have it, you don't, yah boo, sucks to be you" type. (3) In Guild Wars 2's Living World Season 4 Episode 3 release, there's a quest ("dynamic event" if you wish to be fussy) of that type, except that the rats are mutated minor psychos, and the last one is a major psycho called "Tenrat". (So yes, you have to kill ten rats then kill Tenrat.) (4) Including one moment that is simultaneously "laugh until you cry" funny and soul-crushingly tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbohrius Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 At any rate, how long has that been? Two years? Three? I got the mission to restore HK-55 and the bonus mission where he's the protagonist and I'd be totally fine if both rewards were offered again as a kind of veteran subscriber reward. Meaning, subscribe for six months straight to get the companion back and his bonus mission. But we all know where this line of reasoning always takes some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorsaLindahl Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 At any rate, how long has that been? Two years? Three? I got the mission to restore HK-55 and the bonus mission where he's the protagonist and I'd be totally fine if both rewards were offered again as a kind of veteran subscriber reward. Meaning, subscribe for six months straight to get the companion back and his bonus mission. But we all know where this line of reasoning always takes some people. The two are not tied together. You could have gotten one without the other. The Arma Rasa alert mission was a subscriber reward for Jan 2016. The Shroud of Memory (bonus chapter) was given for subscribing from Feb - Aug 2016. There were also the weapons and helmet given at intervals during that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The two are not tied together. You could have gotten one without the other. The Arma Rasa alert mission was a subscriber reward for Jan 2016. The Shroud of Memory (bonus chapter) was given for subscribing from Feb - Aug 2016. There were also the weapons and helmet given at intervals during that time. Arma Rasa was for being a sub on 11 Jan 2016. Shroud of Memory was for being a sub continuously from 11 Jan 2016 to 1 Aug 2016, inclusive. For some reason, people sometimes accuse this period (6 months and 21 days) of being 8 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorsaLindahl Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Arma Rasa was for being a sub on 11 Jan 2016. Shroud of Memory was for being a sub continuously from 11 Jan 2016 to 1 Aug 2016, continuously*. For some reason, people sometimes accuse this period (6 months and 21 days) of being 8 months. So I missed the exact dates. It doesn't matter anyway since the entire point was that they were not in any way inclusive with each other. They were separate rewards for separate subscription promotions. *correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbohrius Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The point still stands, however. Give HK-55 and the bonus mission as veteran subscription rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 So I missed the exact dates. It doesn't matter anyway since the entire point was that they were not in any way inclusive with each other. They were separate rewards for separate subscription promotions. *correction. Sort of separate. Because the first day of the SoM promotion's qualifying period was *also* the one day of AR's qualifying period, it was impossible to achieve the nonsensical result of qualifying for SoM without qualifying for AR as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRapheus Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 To go to Belsavis, you must go to Belsavis. There you go. Go to Belsavis, choose the bonus X area, and start the quest for HK 51. He's a good second place to HK 55. You'll need an other faction alt to get one of the parts, but you can mail them from one toon to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorsaLindahl Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 The point still stands, however. Give HK-55 and the bonus mission as veteran subscription rewards. But there isn't a veteran rewards program (something that has already been suggested and ignored). BW's subscriber reward system is so screwed up that threads like this (asking for ways to get previously released rewards) pop up all the time. Had they used the vet system, then anyone and everyone could qualify for these sub rewards given the amount of sub time they put in and we wouldn't be having debates over who deserves what or who's entitled to what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IoNonSoEVero Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Considering that HK-55 was an actual ongoing story companion, IMHO they should at least consider putting him on the Odessen terminal, even if they don't want to offer Arma Rasa again. It's weird to me that the terminal on Odessen will allow me to retrieve the companions I actively chose to kill and eliminate from my game, like SCORPIO and Senya (DS Jaesa appears to be the only exception to this, but again, you have to actively choose to kill her), and it will allow me to claim companions who literally said three lines to my character and never had any real part in their story at all (Elara Dorne and Quinn), but HK-55 is out of bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zehal Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 The point still stands, however. Give HK-55 and the bonus mission as veteran subscription rewards. THIS. Also I think, that if it wasn't part of the chapters I think most people would not be so upset or asking for it as much...and all they had to do is flip the switch and BOOM chapter unlock under whatever conditions (veteran reward, achievement, cartel market unlock, etc) and if it bring problems with "some parts of the community that feel entitle" Bio could just might as well, ignore them like they do with other more important concerns the community bring up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 There you go. Go to Belsavis, choose the bonus X area, and start the quest for HK 51. He's a good second place to HK 55. You'll need an other faction alt to get one of the parts, but you can mail them from one toon to another. That's right, although the line you quoted is a reference to the bug after the Galaxy Map was updated in, I believe, 4.3, where they made it too easy to end up in Section X or the Black Hole instead of Belsavis or Corellia. Open the galaxy map, click on the sector, double-click the planet ==> you went to Section X instead of Belsavis, and class missions would not update to show that you went to Belsavis, well, not unless you: * Went away to somewhere else, e.g. the Fleet. * Got in your ship * Opened the Galaxy Map * Opened the sector * Clicked once on the planet to open it. * Clicked on Belsavis (or Corellia) to select it as the destination. * Clicked on the "TRAVEL" button. From that situation came the assertion "To go to Belsavis, you must go to Belsavis" meaning that you must *say* that you want to go to Belsavis, otherwise you end up in Section X. They fixed it. The "double-click" destination is now the main planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorsaLindahl Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 THIS. ...and all they had to do is flip the switch and BOOM chapter unlock under whatever conditions (veteran reward, achievement, cartel market unlock, etc) Gotta love those that think all it takes is the "flip of a switch." Please move to the back of the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceryxp Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) In two days Arma Rasa will be three year old content (three years since the qualifying sub date). Just put it on the CM for people to buy. The per character/account cost for Section X would be a good price point. Edited January 9, 2019 by ceryxp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kissakias Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Wait? what? you mean hes permadeathed if I wasnt subscribed? how the hell am I supposed to explain this to my nephew. tell him that the BW-EA is a stupid and unfair company that do ******** in their playerbase from the start. example, canceled Korrealis speaders of 2012 are back ALSO jawa ballon is back, but jk-55 and DvL event never came back. Edited January 10, 2019 by Kissakias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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