SilverWF Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 So, I am running dps Sin in Hatered. Mostly solo, with the rare cases of random ops. And I was wonder: what a difference in between Shield and Focus Here is a comparison for 230 rating gear: So, with shield I'm loosing 145,4 bonus damage (~5%) and 107,5 bonus healing but getting 5% shield chance with 20% shield absorbtion. Just wanna ask: is it worth it or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreyRanger Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I don't think hatred has the right charge to activate a shield, so shield will not do anything for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWF Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 So, you mean, that in the Hatred shield didn't work completely, even that 5% are not really applies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rion_Starkiller Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) The shield should work in dps spec at 5%, but it is not advisable. You're a dps, so dps. Edited October 10, 2018 by Rion_Starkiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMaranathax Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) AFAIK, the shield will not even trigger for the 5%, because the tank stance turns the shield generator on. Run a focus. Even if it did, you wont see enough of a difference to actually care, so run a focus. Edited October 10, 2018 by xMaranathax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdjeYo Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Honestly a 5% chance for 20% reduction is very low, only reducing the damage you take by 1%. However, not even all attacks are shieldable to begin with, so you're reducing the damage you take by less than 1%, I wouldn't bother using a shield as a dps if I were you. Even for solo stuff the reduced damage wouldn't be enough to be noticable, and for group stuff I can guarantee that your healer won't be able to tell the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rion_Starkiller Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) AFAIK, the shield will not even trigger for the 5%, because the tank stance turns the shield generator on. Run a focus. Even if it did, you wont see enough of a difference to actually care, so run a focus. IIRC, there is a 5% base chance baked into the shield. You get an extra +15% if you are in tank stance, for a total of 20% base shield chance and 20% base absorb without any mods (in tank spec). It's possible it has changed since the old days, but this is how it used to work. Edited October 10, 2018 by Rion_Starkiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdjeYo Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 IIRC, there is a 5% base chance baked into the shield. You get an extra +15% if you are in tank stance, for a total of 20% base shield chance and 20% base absorb without any mods (in tank spec). It's possible it has changed from the old days, but this is how it used to work. I can second this, you get the 5% shield chance even in dps spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocles Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Shields only activate in tank stances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlGustaf Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Shields only activate in tank stances. no, they activate every time you have one equipped. Just because Bioware writes something in the loading screen, it's not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocles Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 no, they activate every time you have one equipped. Just because Bioware writes something in the loading screen, it's not true. Ok... the shielding aspect... the other stats do. At least that is the way it was from the last test we did running shields on our dps toons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KendraP Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Whether the shield activates or not (and it does) running a shield in dps spec is rather pointless to the point of being stupid. But if you're running things solo, its not my business how stupid or not you choose to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocles Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Whether the shield activates or not (and it does) running a shield in dps spec is rather pointless to the point of being stupid. But if you're running things solo, its not my business how stupid or not you choose to be. Nice job insulting the OP... ...and in point of fact 2 of us ran shields/gens over several ops and never saw them proc. Maybe we were just unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KendraP Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Nice job insulting the OP... ...and in point of fact 2 of us ran shields/gens over several ops and never saw them proc. Maybe we were just unlucky. I'm talking generalalities. In group content running a shield in dps spec is stupid because it nerfs your damage substantially for a thoroughly negligible gain in survivability. For solo content it's stupid for much the same reason, but what anyone chooses to do in solo content is their choice completely. Being stupid then, is entirely within anyone's perogative. That's how personal liberty works. Also for the record - i started this game 6 years ago having never played an mmo. I was that dumb vigi guardian with tank gear. I did my first FP after over a year playing and someone called me all sorts of names. Guess what? I appreciate this random, name long ago forgotten person for telling me what i was doing was stupid. I've come a long way since then, but it never would have happened without that one random jerk in a fp who called out the idiot. (In this instance, me circa 2013). Experience, after all, is the best teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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