Lunafox Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Many people here, myself included have requested a Rishi Stronghold for years now, and I know when I did, I expressly asked for a beach front resort, and hoped that it would have a nice locale, with ponds and waterfalls in a nice tranquil setting. Lots of palm trees, with maybe a few grass huts here and there. A nice house we could actually decorate and be proud of. Well, you catered to the pvpers and made something they like, but that is useless to those who play with strongholds and enjoy decorating like me. Please consider making another that caters more to the decorating/stronghold crowd. Options aren't a bad thing, it would incite us to buy more decorations. As it is I feel I wasted money because the pvp Rishi stronghold isn't adequate for proper decorating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IoNonSoEVero Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) + 1. In the PTS thread it has been suggested that they could add on to the existing stronghold by adding a secluded beach/waterfall area with a nice cottage or small house with the blueprint of the Rishi cantina. One could choose one's track when one bought the SH: Rishi A (Ugly PvP thing) or Rishi B (pretty cottage). From the loading dock one could also get to the ship (with PvP turned off). if you chose to buy the pretty cottage area, you would never have to go near the revolting PvP shanty town, and it wouldn't affect those who want the PvP stuff instead. This stronghold was advertised as something both PvPers and non could enjoy. It's not, really. Aside from the small bit of beach, it's disgusting. Edited July 8, 2018 by IoNonSoEVero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyFlynn Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) +1 from me as well, and to quote one of my posts elsewhere, this is what I personally had in mind all previous times I've requested a Rishi Stronghold; What my hope and thought had been each time I've requested and suggested a Rishi Stronghold, and what I had hoped for when it was announced, was closer to these areas; https://i.imgur.com/0wBsqgQ.png https://i.imgur.com/9FEfozY.png https://i.imgur.com/34j9mM1.png https://i.imgur.com/4Lfo9LA.png A combination of that landscape with a large oceanfront as well. Some ground level Rishi huts and some higher up, possibly connected by rope bridges or walkways. Perhaps even a few platformed huts out on the water. Something more resembling the Rishii Village rather than Raider's Cove or the slums, and something that would have actually been more native to the planet originally. Or if a second Rishi Stronghold is out of the question, perhaps something close to the above but on Rakata Prime which actually has nicer beaches too. Edited July 8, 2018 by JennyFlynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MishaCantu Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I was disappointed in the Rishi Stronghold as well, but it's a bit of spilled milk now. I think of it as akin to just another battleground or arena for the pvp crowd and not something that appeals to everyone. So be it. That being said, decorations are a hot item on the CM so I'm sure we'll see another one crop up sooner or later. Rakata Prime has my vote as well. Love the beaches and that wonderful lightning storm out at sea. I suppose Odessen or Aldaraan would be ok also. Just please, not Zakuul. We have enough urban strongholds already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunafox Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share Posted July 8, 2018 I was disappointed in the Rishi Stronghold as well, but it's a bit of spilled milk now. I think of it as akin to just another battleground or arena for the pvp crowd and not something that appeals to everyone. So be it. That being said, decorations are a hot item on the CM so I'm sure we'll see another one crop up sooner or later. Rakata Prime has my vote as well. Love the beaches and that wonderful lightning storm out at sea. I suppose Odessen or Aldaraan would be ok also. Just please, not Zakuul. We have enough urban strongholds already. I could be appeased with Rakata Prime. It's very nice there. Just don't install me into Revan's broken skyscraper lol. Odessen is cool too. Alderaan creeps me out, the nobles...urgh. But I could work with it. Zakuul is a big no. I hate everything about the place except their lighting and gardens. Thanks for the support guys, hopefully, it'll keep coming and Bioware will make something with the decorator in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IoNonSoEVero Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) I don't think I'd be so sore over the Rishi SH if it hadn't been advertised as a SH. They were pretending that it would be great for everyone and it was clearly only designed for PvP in mind. Which again would have been fine if they hadn't claimed it would be a normal SH too. I deeply regret keeping my subscription over the summer now. All I was keeping it for was Rishi. If Rishi II is not feasible I'd like: Odessen. Please. Rakata Prime Voss Another ship Expanded Manaan Ilum. If they're going to do a stronghold on a snowy world I'd prefer Ilum over Hoth because the sky is so beautiful. Hoth gives me a headache with that bright white snow and bright sky. I hate Zakuul and with the way the story is going, it doesn't seem as though we're going to be BFFs with them anymore. I can't stand Alderaan either - it's pretty but between the Kiliks and all the petty nobles and their battles, no thanks. I think a Makeb-style house would be just beautiful. They can't put it on Makeb obviously but I love that style with all the blue and white tiles and gardens. Edited July 8, 2018 by IoNonSoEVero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damask_Rose Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 At this point I doubt they will do anything but minor tweaks to hooks., if that. Since I've given up on my beach house, what I'd like to see them do before they add another half-baked stronghold is to do a quality pass on the ones they have. Clearly there is money to be made from Space Barbie and the Space Barbie Dreamhouse, but they need to be smarter about it. -They need to review how many and what kind of hooks they have in all of the newer ones. Maybe have someone who actually likes to decorate have a look at them. -They need to add more layout templates, especially for the bigger hooks. Rug hooks should be available on the walls too. -More rooms could be added to older strongholds, especially Manaan which looks unfinished. -A quality pass needs to be done on the decorations we have. Hook size vs. deco size is often wonky. Many could fit on multiple sizes that are restricted to just one. Some are still missing. Too many lights don't actually give off light. Ambient sounds need to start on and be louder. The list is endless. -Either add decorations to collections, or put a whole lot more on direct sale. (hints of this on Reddit!) At this point I'm more interested in re-decorating my other strongholds than struggling with the new one. (Pssst... I would love to get keys from people so I can get inspiration from better decorators!) I might buy the first room for Rishi for the turtle beach and just ignore the rest. A few million for a little beach front property isn't too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunafox Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share Posted July 8, 2018 I don't think I'd be so sore over the Rishi SH if it hadn't been advertised as a SH. They were pretending that it would be great for everyone and it was clearly only designed for PvP in mind. Which again would have been fine if they hadn't claimed it would be a normal SH too. I deeply regret keeping my subscription over the summer now. All I was keeping it for was Rishi. If Rishi II is not feasible I'd like: Odessen. Please. Rakata Prime Voss Another ship Expanded Manaan Ilum. If they're going to do a stronghold on a snowy world I'd prefer Ilum over Hoth because the sky is so beautiful. Hoth gives me a headache with that bright white snow and bright sky. I hate Zakuul and with the way the story is going, it doesn't seem as though we're going to be BFFs with them anymore. I can't stand Alderaan either - it's pretty but between the Kiliks and all the petty nobles and their battles, no thanks. I think a Makeb-style house would be just beautiful. They can't put it on Makeb obviously but I love that style with all the blue and white tiles and gardens. Same here, they really sold it as something for everyone and it's not. Not even close. I thought I'd at least have a project to do over summer while I waited for story and now I've got nada, unless I waste all my money on this filthy monstrosity. Rakaka Prime would be very nice for me, Odessen a distant second. I live in Canada so half my year is snowy, so I've no real interest in a snowy world, though Ilum is better. Hoth=migraine city. You know, I actually am more icked out by the nobles than the bugs lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunafox Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share Posted July 8, 2018 At this point I doubt they will do anything but minor tweaks to hooks., if that. Since I've given up on my beach house, what I'd like to see them do before they add another half-baked stronghold is to do a quality pass on the ones they have. Clearly there is money to be made from Space Barbie and the Space Barbie Dreamhouse, but they need to be smarter about it. -They need to review how many and what kind of hooks they have in all of the newer ones. Maybe have someone who actually likes to decorate have a look at them. -They need to add more layout templates, especially for the bigger hooks. Rug hooks should be available on the walls too. -More rooms could be added to older strongholds, especially Manaan which looks unfinished. -A quality pass needs to be done on the decorations we have. Hook size vs. deco size is often wonky. Many could fit on multiple sizes that are restricted to just one. Some are still missing. Too many lights don't actually give off light. Ambient sounds need to start on and be louder. The list is endless. -Either add decorations to collections, or put a whole lot more on direct sale. (hints of this on Reddit!) At this point I'm more interested in re-decorating my other strongholds than struggling with the new one. (Pssst... I would love to get keys from people so I can get inspiration from better decorators!) I might buy the first room for Rishi for the turtle beach and just ignore the rest. A few million for a little beach front property isn't too bad. You're right, I doubt they'll do any major changes at this point. Mostly, I'm kicking up a fuss so they know that Decorators are people too, like you say, there is money to be made off Space Barbies. I want Bioware to know that we're not just gonna lie down and accept a filth-ridden piece of crap with little beauty or points of interest. Really the only nice thing was the tiny island and the turtle. Everything else is rubbish woven together with more rubbish with some filth as adornment. I really have no desire to stand on top of the heap and scream, "I'm the Quinn of the Castle and you're the Dirty Rascal," as I push my enemies off the trash heaps. I just wanted a nice spot to put up my beach furniture and umbrellas and plants. I think my Selkath couches would look rather stupid set upon a pile of rotten planks. I've suggested to them before, ad nauseum to put carpet hook on the walls for rug wall hangings like the wampa and red voss rug, I've suggested adding more carpet hooks closer to walls, more light hooks so things can be made centered or symmetrical. I've said to them, put small hooks on top of centerpiece hooks. I've asked them to allow us to move things 30 spaces instead of 20. I wish they'd listen to the suggestions. I'm not the only one that made them either, so many good ideas being ignored and then they wonder why people aren't happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IoNonSoEVero Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Same here, they really sold it as something for everyone and it's not. Not even close. I thought I'd at least have a project to do over summer while I waited for story and now I've got nada, unless I waste all my money on this filthy monstrosity. Rakaka Prime would be very nice for me, Odessen a distant second. I live in Canada so half my year is snowy, so I've no real interest in a snowy world, though Ilum is better. Hoth=migraine city. You know, I actually am more icked out by the nobles than the bugs lol. Same. The only thing I've had to do this year is Nathema. Other that that, there's been zip. I'd pretty much decided I was going to let my sub lapse until they decided to do something more with story, but I kept it for two more months because I wanted to buy Rishi without worrying about the credit escrow. Silly me. The nobles and Kiliks both creep me out, LOL. The thing with the bugs turning everyone into pod people is what really bothers me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IoNonSoEVero Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 At this point I doubt they will do anything but minor tweaks to hooks., if that. Since I've given up on my beach house, what I'd like to see them do before they add another half-baked stronghold is to do a quality pass on the ones they have. Clearly there is money to be made from Space Barbie and the Space Barbie Dreamhouse, but they need to be smarter about it. -They need to review how many and what kind of hooks they have in all of the newer ones. Maybe have someone who actually likes to decorate have a look at them. -They need to add more layout templates, especially for the bigger hooks. Rug hooks should be available on the walls too. -More rooms could be added to older strongholds, especially Manaan which looks unfinished. -A quality pass needs to be done on the decorations we have. Hook size vs. deco size is often wonky. Many could fit on multiple sizes that are restricted to just one. Some are still missing. Too many lights don't actually give off light. Ambient sounds need to start on and be louder. The list is endless. -Either add decorations to collections, or put a whole lot more on direct sale. (hints of this on Reddit!) At this point I'm more interested in re-decorating my other strongholds than struggling with the new one. (Pssst... I would love to get keys from people so I can get inspiration from better decorators!) I might buy the first room for Rishi for the turtle beach and just ignore the rest. A few million for a little beach front property isn't too bad. Yeah, I would love it if they'd do some quality tweaks to the existing strongholds. If they added a room or two onto Manaan I'd be so happy. I'm going back to redecorate too because I have all the decos that I'd planned to use for Rishi. A real shame. I was thinking of buying the unlock for the cute little turtle and the ship, because I really would like to have the ship. But I won't unless they add an opt-out for the PvP. Going through PvP areas makes me really upset so I wouldnt' even be able to really get to the turtle beach. I'm planning on blowing all the credits I'd saved for Rishi on decos, armor, creatures, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kataret Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) At this point BioWare won't make any dramatic changes to any of the existing Strongholds. The closest you can get with Rishi is more hooks (though they might give in to removing some of the trash piles as that shouldn't be severely difficult). As for making a second Rishi stronghold... I wouldn't count on it. I wouldn't even expect something similar like Rakata Prime. A common trend in the strongholds is that each one is a very different biome/environment. Dromund Kaas had the conventional cityscape, Coruscant was the futuristic cityscape, Nar Shaddaa had the industrial sector, Tatooine was sand, Yavin was Jungles, Manaan was water, Umbara was just... alien. And now Rishi is the beach front. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the reason we haven't seen an Alderaan/Voss stronghold like many have asked for. The "large structure surrounded by grasslands" category is already occupied by Yavin. Of course, if the game keeps going with Strongholds then we're going to get repeats eventually, but for now they still have some other biomes they'd want to introduce to capitalize on diversity. Hoth/Ilum makes sense next to get that snow stronghold. Possibly a Makeb/Kuat stronghold for the Mesa environment. And if they really want to diversify, maybe even Oricon... I mean, you you can't get much more distinct than lava. Though just to emphasize, I'm not saying that I or any other player is against second Rishi or Rakata Prime. I'm just looking at the patterns and it doesn't seem that kind of stronghold will be in the cards for a while now. Edited July 8, 2018 by Kataret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I don't think I'd be so sore over the Rishi SH if it hadn't been advertised as a SH. They were pretending that it would be great for everyone and it was clearly only designed for PvP in mind. Which again would have been fine if they hadn't claimed it would be a normal SH too. I deeply regret keeping my subscription over the summer now. All I was keeping it for was Rishi. My analysis: They built a PvP arena with SH features. Some fraction of us, including you and me, were expecting an SH with PvP-arena features. I am not impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Many people here, myself included have requested a Rishi Stronghold for years now, and I know when I did, I expressly asked for a beach front resort, and hoped that it would have a nice locale, with ponds and waterfalls in a nice tranquil setting. Lots of palm trees, with maybe a few grass huts here and there. A nice house we could actually decorate and be proud of. Well, you catered to the pvpers and made something they like, but that is useless to those who play with strongholds and enjoy decorating like me. Please consider making another that caters more to the decorating/stronghold crowd. Options aren't a bad thing, it would incite us to buy more decorations. As it is I feel I wasted money because the pvp Rishi stronghold isn't adequate for proper decorating. Having followed your "wish list" posts about Rishi since they teased it was coming, I certainly understand your dislike of what they have implemented. At least you are non-emotional and fairly objective about your feedback.. unlike many other players. Personally... I made my Manaan SH my "resort" SH. I did so because I wanted a SH with a a resort feel to it, and it actually lent itself to that as a style approach pretty well... with the exception of any real beach area. Then again.. a beach =/= resort living for me personally. At this point in time... I think making a suggestion thread of a your specific wants and needs in a "resort" Stronghold would be time well spent as it may influence the next Stronghold they do (since they appear to still be in the mood to make more). For Rishi though... I think the theme is locked at this point, and feedback on changes and incorporation of those changes is best limited to mechanics changes (hooks, hook placements, a switch to set PvP mechanics off for those that do not want PvP active in their SH). Asking for an alternate Rishi is kind of over the top at this point, in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) My analysis: They built a PvP arena with SH features. Some fraction of us, including you and me, were expecting an SH with PvP-arena features. I am not impressed. I see what they implemented as a SH with PvP arena mechanics. And I am OK with that. Though in fairness to non-PvP players (which largely includes me) .. I think they need a switch for the PvP mechanics. I don't personally like the style of the SH... but it IS consistent with the Rishi theme... so it did not surprise me that much. I will wait to see the final version that goes live before I decide to acquire a personal one or not. But for Guilds.. I honestly think this is probably the first SH built with guild activities and play in mind... because of the PvP aspects of the design. It actually gives even casual guilds who are not big into PvP a "safe" playground to conduct guild PvP for the fun of it with people you know and trust. That aspect actually breaks new ground in the SH space in SWTOR... so with that in mind.. even if I never choose to acquire one personally... I think it is a good addition to the game. The biggest issue not yet revealed though is performance of this SH.. and the fact that they have always been skittish on the studio side of things with respect to SH performance. This is where good active play testing can benefit both studio and players. Edited July 8, 2018 by Andryah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I see what they implemented as a SH with PvP arena mechanics. And I am OK with that. Though in fairness to non-PvP players (which largely includes me) .. I think they need a switch for the PvP mechanics. OK, so let's say you arrive while some of your keyholders are battling in the first ("Team") arena. How do you get anywhere that isn't the entry platform? That's why I say it's a PvP arena with SH features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avianatorsparkma Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) A beautiful tropical beach themed stronghold would have been very nice. But we got something else, something that , as it seems, mostly only pvpers will enjoy. I also saved my credits for this stronghold but I'm not going to buy it cause I simply don't like it. But I'm fine with it...it's just another stronghold I don't care about. But however I still would love to see a BEAUTIFUL tropical themed stronghold one day. A stronghold that makes me want to call it "home". And that stronghold probably would not be on Rishi anyway, cause I highly doubt they will do 2 strongholds for 1 planet. But that's fine as well, cause honestly when talking about beautiful tropical beaches, Rishi isn't the top choice anyway. The top choice for a tropical themed stronghold with a nice beach front resort without any doubt would be Rakata Prime. So at least there is some hope left that maybe one day we will get our beautiful tropical beach paradise. (and hopefully we won't end up in some derelict Rakata ruins then xD) Edited July 8, 2018 by Avianatorsparkma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunafox Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) Having followed your "wish list" posts about Rishi since they teased it was coming, I certainly understand your dislike of what they have implemented. At least you are non-emotional and fairly objective about your feedback.. unlike many other players. Personally... I made my Manaan SH my "resort" SH. I did so because I wanted a SH with a a resort feel to it, and it actually lent itself to that as a style approach pretty well... with the exception of any real beach area. Then again.. a beach =/= resort living for me personally. At this point in time... I think making a suggestion thread of a your specific wants and needs in a "resort" Stronghold would be time well spent as it may influence the next Stronghold they do (since they appear to still be in the mood to make more). For Rishi though... I think the theme is locked at this point, and feedback on changes and incorporation of those changes is best limited to mechanics changes (hooks, hook placements, a switch to set PvP mechanics off for those that do not want PvP active in their SH). Asking for an alternate Rishi is kind of over the top at this point, in my view. Yeah, it was a huge disappointment for me and with all the beautiful locales on Rishi, I never in a million years expected they'd choose the ugliest most derelict part to make into a stronghold. To be honest, I've been mostly unemotional and objective, except when I wasn't and quasi-accidentally implied that everyone who likes the trash is piggish lol. It is what it is. I hate the trash everywhere, and would appreciate hooks rather than static trash and junk I can't cover over. It's definitely not a site me or any of my toons would want to live in or vacation in, that's for sure. I have my Manaan decorated as an elegant cafe/ museum combination. I thought having a less sterile, naturalistic, tropical setting would've been nice. I suppose I should start nagging for Rakata Prime. In all honesty I would've preferred Rakata Prime, but would've been satisfied with the nicer areas of Rishi. Of course, with my luck, they'd give us Rakata Prime and instead of oceans, white sands, and streams and ponds with basking varactyls, they'd install us in the basement of Revan's destroyed skyscraper lol with windowless boxes as rooms. Edited July 8, 2018 by Lunafox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodesu Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I suppose I should start nagging for Rakata Prime. In all honesty I would've preferred Rakata Prime, but would've been satisfied with the nicer areas of Rishi. Of course, with my luck, they'd give us Rakata Prime and instead of oceans, white sands, and streams and ponds with basking varactyls, they'd install us in the basement of Revan's destroyed skyscraper lol with windowless boxes as rooms. After all the wishes and wants for Rishi sh and what it should/could feature over the years and I don't remember one sole "let's have the dingiest/slummiest part of the planet only and a ship!" wish/want that I remember, I think this is the best we can expect for any next sh they may do... The only thing I liked about the Rishi one was the inside (not the deck/top) of the ship... and that isn't a compliment, I wanted a nice planet area (in hooks placement, and less static junk heaps). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IoNonSoEVero Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 After all the wishes and wants for Rishi sh and what it should/could feature over the years and I don't remember one sole "let's have the dingiest/slummiest part of the planet only and a ship!" wish/want that I remember, I think this is the best we can expect for any next sh they may do... The only thing I liked about the Rishi one was the inside (not the deck/top) of the ship... and that isn't a compliment, I wanted a nice planet area (in hooks placement, and less static junk heaps). I agree, the only nice things about it were the turtle and the interior of the ship. I really have zero faith left in the devs after this. I feel like if they delivered a Rakata Prime stronghold, they'd just reskin the shabbiest parts of the flashpoint - the Rakata shantytown and ruined buildings-, make the rancor pit and steps more forced PvP and pat themselves on the back for giving everyone a "tropical beach stronghold." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunafox Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) After all the wishes and wants for Rishi sh and what it should/could feature over the years and I don't remember one sole "let's have the dingiest/slummiest part of the planet only and a ship!" wish/want that I remember, I think this is the best we can expect for any next sh they may do... The only thing I liked about the Rishi one was the inside (not the deck/top) of the ship... and that isn't a compliment, I wanted a nice planet area (in hooks placement, and less static junk heaps). Yah, me neither. And if memory serves, a lot of us were excited and added suggestions to that thread for decorations. I don't think there was a single person in that thread asking for slums. I do believe there was one in the General forum about the Rishi stronghold that liked the slums, but most everyone else wanted a beautiful tropical getaway. I suppose if I had one more lesson instilled in me about this game, it's to never to get excited and not to bother suggesting decos or deco hook improvements cause they don't seem to listen. I liked the beach, if I get this, I'll do something with that. The ship was ok, but not what I wanted. I wanted fun in the sun, not to float in a large brown box, even if the sky/sunset is nice. I think we're pretty much in agreement about the new stronghold, as I would appreciate more hooks and a lot less trash and static stuff I can't cover over that isn't to my taste. Also a means of shutting off the pvp things would be great too, as others suggested. I agree, the only nice things about it were the turtle and the interior of the ship. I really have zero faith left in the devs after this. I feel like if they delivered a Rakata Prime stronghold, they'd just reskin the shabbiest parts of the flashpoint - the Rakata shantytown and ruined buildings-, make the rancor pit and steps more forced PvP and pat themselves on the back for giving everyone a "tropical beach stronghold." I loved the little turtle too, easily my favorite part about the whole thing. I agree about the devs, from now on, I'm going to temper my expectations and not get my hopes up (as much as possible anyway, I'm naturally excitable when it comes to new things) that way I won't be so disappointed. This was a gut punch and a low blow as far as I'm concerned, cause I so badly wanted a pretty, warm place, and was so firmly convinced we'd get something beautiful and we get...that. And your assessment about what the devs might do for Rakata is likely pretty dead on...combine it with the horrific idea I had of having Revan's leaning tower skyscraper with dark windowless rooms and we'd probably have the SH design in mind lol. Edited July 9, 2018 by Lunafox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodesu Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Yah, me neither. And if memory serves, a lot of us were excited and added suggestions to that thread for decorations. I don't think there was a single person in that thread asking for slums. I do believe there was one in the General forum about the Rishi stronghold that liked the slums, but most everyone else wanted a beautiful tropical getaway. I suppose if I had one more lesson instilled in me about this game, it's to never to get excited and not to bother suggesting decos or deco hook improvements cause they don't seem to listen. I liked the beach, if I get this, I'll do something with that. The ship was ok, but not what I wanted. I wanted fun in the sun, not to float in a large brown box, even if the sky/sunset is nice. I think we're pretty much in agreement about the new stronghold, as I would appreciate more hooks and a lot less trash and static stuff I can't cover over that isn't to my taste. Also a means of shutting off the pvp things would be great too, as others suggested. I liked the ship but preferably as a different stronghold, on it's own.. not tied to this. but it is what it is. I learned early last year to stop expecting anything I'll like. My standards and expectations are very low usually, but I've been punched down enough that .. yeah this hurt but not as much as it would have if I was not so negative about the game the past 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmarcusprimex Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Rishi in Star Wars is not a resort. It is not a resort world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IoNonSoEVero Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) To make myself laugh, I'm contemplating all the awful stronghold ideas they could give us now (and of course all will have unavoidable PvP just because...). Some of these might be good PvP playgrounds or for some RPers, but probably not what many people are thinking of for a SH: Alderaan: Commune with nature in your very own Kilik hive! After the Kiliks get done brainwashing you, you'll love it! Tython: The Flesh Raiders' lair of recycled metal is the perfect playground for your very own adventures! Korriban: Free Tukata and Klor'slug carcasses come with this stronghold in a pit in the very depths of Naga Sadow's tomb! Belsavis: Your very own prison wing! Lots of rooms, lots of barbed wire and electronic gates you can use as fairy lights! Hoth: Get your tetanus shot (2000 credits) from the nearest medical droid and settle down in your very own wing of the Star of Coruscant! The creatively destroyed shards of glass and metal will add a festive touch to all of your gatherings! Balmorra: The pit at the bottom of Vault 305 has only been available to select members of the Dark Council, until now! Grab your anti-radiation serum, try to avoid falling to your death and kick back in your Collicoid-infested palatial stronghold! Corellia: There are plenty of posh apartments on Corellia, but we know you want variety. That's why we've driven the Selonians out of the sewers and made it available to you! Pretend you're the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or just kick back in your cinderblocked rooms! Taris: Rakghouls, shmaghouls. They won't be bothering you in your sky tower! There's a slight list to it, so try not to pile all your decos on that one side there, K? And you can expand your stronghold into the lovely Dynamet Hospital. Missing floors and hidden holes in the floors will make things especially fun for your guests! Edited July 9, 2018 by IoNonSoEVero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neulwen Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I also wanted a more luxurious resort, but it does make sense that it's slummy on Rishi, and it does fit a pvp setting much better. I just don't like that it's practically a repurposed Ravager, and the ship interior is just bleh. Anyway, I'm instead hoping for a new future luxurious beach resort stronghold. I could be appeased with Rakata Prime. It's very nice there. Just don't install me into Revan's broken skyscraper lol. Odessen is cool too. Alderaan creeps me out, the nobles...urgh. But I could work with it. Zakuul is a big no. I hate everything about the place except their lighting and gardens. Agree! Rakata Prime or something new similar to it. I'd prefer not Odessen for this kind of resort, seeing as it's very Force-focused. (Not really a place non-Force user would pick.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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