F2P/Preferred chat at lower level following a level 50 or max level character

[Jesus_Man]

Title^. I was wondering why chat was still restricted until level 25 for F2P and preferred players if you have a level 50 or max level character on a server. Surely if you level a character that highly and started a new one you are obviously committing to the game and are not going to spam and get banned. I understand it's there to ameliorate chat spammers but having to chat through emotes is painful until level 25 as well this solves that problem and . This lowering of the chat restriction would encourage newcomers to the game as they aren't silenced for as long (I really enjoy chatting in mmos) and bring in more money as a result. So I suggest the limit being lowered to 1 or 10 or some other arbitrary level after leveling a character to 50 or max level (or another requirement) as to not punish players already playing the game.

 

Thanks for considering

[PiiTarr]

Title^. I was wondering why chat was still restricted until level 25 for F2P and preferred players if you have a level 50 or max level character on a server. Surely if you level a character that highly and started a new one you are obviously committing to the game and are not going to spam and get banned. I understand it's there to ameliorate chat spammers but having to chat through emotes is painful until level 25 as well this solves that problem and . This lowering of the chat restriction would encourage newcomers to the game as they aren't silenced for as long (I really enjoy chatting in mmos) and bring in more money as a result. So I suggest the limit being lowered to 1 or 10 or some other arbitrary level after leveling a character to 50 or max level (or another requirement) as to not punish players already playing the game.

 

Thanks for considering

 

I have personally seen spammers using level 60s (back when the tokens first came out) so level is no guarantee someone isn't a gold seller.

[Jesus_Man]

I have personally seen spammers using level 60s (back when the tokens first came out) so level is no guarantee someone isn't a gold seller.

 

Well ignoring that mong, I get more spam through mail by quite a large margin than I do through chat so I don't really see the point in continuing to punish people who have already played to level 50/max and want to play more. It's easier to get a level 25 then start spamming than it is to get a level 50/max and then start doing it. As well, I really don't think this change would increase the already low spamming in chat.

[Pscyon]

Leveling to 50 isn't really that much of a chore. Just playing the main story spits out xp boosts at you on every planet, they're also available for cheaps on GTN and there's a double xp event every time we sneeze it seems. And regardless of the ease of leveling to 50 a dedicated botter can do that over the course of a day or two anyway at which point they'd easily be able to crank out unrestricted characters for weeks before being actioned against. The caps and restrictions are probably in place for a reason.

[Jesus_Man]

Leveling to 50 isn't really that much of a chore. Just playing the main story spits out xp boosts at you on every planet, they're also available for cheaps on GTN and there's a double xp event every time we sneeze it seems. And regardless of the ease of leveling to 50 a dedicated botter can do that over the course of a day or two anyway at which point they'd easily be able to crank out unrestricted characters for weeks before being actioned against. The caps and restrictions are probably in place for a reason.

 

A bot to level 25 is significantly easier than a bot to level 50. Do you have any proof that chat spammers don't get action against for weeks if they're hardcore spamming? Ironically the level 25 1 minute cooldown is probably fine for any spammer because what's the point of flooding chat if they already saw your message.

[PiiTarr]

Well ignoring that mong, I get more spam through mail by quite a large margin than I do through chat so I don't really see the point in continuing to punish people who have already played to level 50/max and want to play more. It's easier to get a level 25 then start spamming than it is to get a level 50/max and then start doing it. As well, I really don't think this change would increase the already low spamming in chat.

 

You do know they can't send mail as F2P, right? The "already low spamming in chat" is partially due to the restriction. It used to be level 7s or level 10s on fleet spamming.

[Pscyon]

A bot to level 25 is significantly easier than a bot to level 50. Do you have any proof that chat spammers don't get action against for weeks if they're hardcore spamming? Ironically the level 25 1 minute cooldown is probably fine for any spammer because what's the point of flooding chat if they already saw your message.

Do I have any evidence that isn't anecdotal? No, I do not. But whether you're willing to believe it or not, I see the same names more often than I see new ones so as far as I can tell, they get to do their thing for quite a long time.

[Nightblazer]

They aren't bgoing to change it. BW raised it to 25 fir the spammers as a specific reason. I doubt they'd go back on it.

[Jesus_Man]

You do know they can't send mail as F2P, right? The "already low spamming in chat" is partially due to the restriction. It used to be level 7s or level 10s on fleet spamming.

 

That's fine and all but do you know get the credit selling emails? On Star Forge at least that's the only credit selling spam I see

[Jesus_Man]

They aren't bgoing to change it. BW raised it to 25 fir the spammers as a specific reason. I doubt they'd go back on it.

 

I know they raised it to 25 and it did work but this is a new suggestion as far as I can tell and I believe it would achieve the same thing.

[Jesus_Man]

Do I have any evidence that isn't anecdotal? No, I do not. But whether you're willing to believe it or not, I see the same names more often than I see new ones so as far as I can tell, they get to do their thing for quite a long time.

 

So there is already chat spam and this suggestion would benefit the actual non spamming players more. I doubt it's going to increase the spam because of the time you have to put into leveing a max/50 (harder than leveling to 25)

 

Edit: as it turns out the chat spammers I do see are using yell and then instantly logging off to, I assume, avoid punishment. I wanted general chat to be less restricted and if they're using /yell I again don't see why this is a bad suggestion

Edited April 25, 2018 by Jesus_Man

[BRKMSN]

I think that if the F2P model is enjoyable, but lacks perks the average player would like to have, then it's working as intended. In other words, the premium service is more enjoyable and people should prefer to play as a subscriber.