leadtek Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 So yeah returning player here just now realised you get a free 65 when you sub. My question is which one is well better or maybe both are viable at the current state in pvp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_McSkill Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Dps wise sin/shadow is the bomb right now due to the stacking of stances. Ops are not bad but until they fix the bug they are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadtek Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 thanks for the info. Mind if i ask, what's this bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolixe Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Basically if you had a sin specced for deception pre 5.0 it gets a damage boost through discharge procs. It makes the class capable of dealing a fair bit of damage, although in my personal opinion just right given the healing and burst meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosttj Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Operatives have the edge on utility and survivability if you're queuing alone. If you want some hard hitting DPS, assassin's are in a pretty good spot, and still will be even without the stacking bug. Operative healers are decent leaving something to be desired compared to the other two, imo. Assassin tanks are bugged as all hell and I'm not sure how they'll be performing once the double stance bug is fixed on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Both are incredibly fun on objective maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rash_in Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Operatives are a tough bunch right now. I re-rolled a sin post 5.0. Getting owned when guarding nodes and they pop out of stealth. I Mezz, call for re-enforcements. Throw out last mezz. Then stun and jump the operative with 2 team mates. All three of us couldn't bring the Operative down. Off heals, evades, and kiting oh my! Granted experience could have played a factor but I haven't really had that much of a fight with other stealth classes when being ganged up on. Didn't see it too much in lowbies, but during the middle of mids, it seemed to become more apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundown Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Both are doing fine I guess, and are a lot of fun to play. I guess the Op is more of an annoyance to others than the Sin though. Very hard to kill and can stall capping nodes for like forever with the AOE attacks. Had a long 1on1 last night against a concealment op with my infiltration shadow yesterday - it was blast and pretty even I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiveringPotato Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) It depends on what you want to do. Both classes are suffering (well, benefiting) from bugs currently. On sins, there's apparently stance-stacking, a bugged utility (you can get the autocrit after mezz utility's effects without having the utility selected), and for deception, you gain static charges considerably faster than you should be. For operatives, the "Curative Agent" utility is bugged. Essentially, if you take it, when you use Countermeasures (your speed boost for concealment, now), it makes your next kolto probe heal for like 100k+. It doesn't show up in the biggest heal, but it definitely does it. Proof: Now, when it comes to which class is better... as someone who has played both for a long time, I'd say overall, assassin is better. Considerably better damage, and if you take proper utilities, sins are quite tanky now. Hatred is kind of garbage (all dot specs are, at the moment in pvp), but deception has scary burst, amazing control, and some good DCDs. If you want to play ranked and focus on doing damage in regs, I'd go with assassin. Operative takes a considerably higher amount of patience and skill to play at the same level as sin, and I mean when it when I say that 99% of DPS operatives are complete trash. They're non-factors. However! If you like playing objectives, fighting against multiple enemies for decently extended periods of time and (well, probably not killing any of them) surviving, I'd go with operative. As an operative, you should be focusing more on your killing blows/solo kills, offhealing, objectives points, and damage taken/death ratio in regs. A good operative is not an operative who focuses solely on tunneling people and trying to get top damage. The class has atrocious dmg in pvp (yes, even lethality, which parses well) due to how the defensives are built. If you just wanna blow stuff up and gank people, play sin. Edited January 15, 2017 by QuiveringPotato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damedius Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 1v1 Operative. In a group Assassin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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