Vaerah Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) Hello, Happy with combat (and its mirror on my mara), I have rolled another sentinel and went Concentration spec. I like it, but I have no idea about which rotation would be good nor which utility points to take. Anyone got some tips about this spec? Dulfy etc. don't have a guide. Edited January 1, 2017 by Vaerah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejarid Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I certainly don't claim to be amongst the best Sentinel players, but I strictly play Concentration, now, and very much enjoy it. It seems pretty complicated on the face of it, however it's actually quite simple once you can grasp the fundamentals. It's all about maximizing the damage of Focused Burst/Force Sweep (depending on single target or AoE situations) via two procced buffs - Felling Blow and Koan - and then going bananas in the following burst window. Felling Blow procs when you leap (either from Force Leap or Zealous Leap), and Koan procs from Force Exhaustion and Zen. How I open: [ Zen/Leap > Focused Burst > (Force Exhaustion > Concentrated Slice > Zealous Leap > Zealous Strike > Focused Burst > Blade Barrage > Concentrated Slice > Slash > Zealous Leap > Zen > Focused Burst) ] The string in parentheses is basically repeatable after you open, due to the way the aCDs line up. For AoE, I swap FB for FS, Slash with Cyclone Slash, and BB with Twin Saber Throw - mob alignment permitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaerah Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 I certainly don't claim to be amongst the best Sentinel players, but I strictly play Concentration, now, and very much enjoy it. It seems pretty complicated on the face of it, however it's actually quite simple once you can grasp the fundamentals. It's all about maximizing the damage of Focused Burst/Force Sweep (depending on single target or AoE situations) via two procced buffs - Felling Blow and Koan - and then going bananas in the following burst window. Felling Blow procs when you leap (either from Force Leap or Zealous Leap), and Koan procs from Force Exhaustion and Zen. How I open: [ Zen/Leap > Focused Burst > (Force Exhaustion > Concentrated Slice > Zealous Leap > Zealous Strike > Focused Burst > Blade Barrage > Concentrated Slice > Slash > Zealous Leap > Zen > Focused Burst) ] The string in parentheses is basically repeatable after you open, due to the way the aCDs line up. For AoE, I swap FB for FS, Slash with Cyclone Slash, and BB with Twin Saber Throw - mob alignment permitting. Thank you very much! May I also ask you, how would you allocate the ability points for PvP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejarid Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Not a PvPer, so really not of much help. Good supposition, though, would be to try for as many defensive/damage reducing utilities as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giggawatt Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Thanks for the tips! How does Concentration rank compared to the other specs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phalczen Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Thanks for the tips! How does Concentration rank compared to the other specs? According to Bant's thread, Rank - DPS+-StdDev - vs Average (7908) DPS --- Imperial - Republic 01 - 8520+-229 - +7.74% --- Operative-Lethality || Scoundrel-Ruffian 02 - 8294+-112 - +4.89% --- Sniper-Virulence || Gunslinger-Dirty Fighting 03 - 8263+-191 - +4.50% --- Sniper-Engineering || Gunslinger-Saboteur 04 - 8213+-295 - +3.86% --- Mercenary-Innovative Ordinance || Commando-Assault Specialist 05 - 8183+-201 - +3.48% --- Marauder-Annihilation || Sentinel-Watchman 06 - 8047+-376 - +1.77% --- Operative-Concealment || Scoundrel-Scrapper 07 - 8042+-212 - +1.69% --- Marauder-Carnage || Sentinel-Combat 08 - 8041+-415 - +1.68% --- Assassin-Deception || Shadow-Infiltration 09 - 7950+-369 - +0.53% --- Mercenary-Arsenal || Commando-Gunnery 10 - 7943+-262 - +0.45% --- Juggernaut-Vengeance || Guardian-Vigilance 11 - 7796+-346 - -1.42% --- Juggernaut-Rage || Guardian-Focus 12 - 7777+-250 - -1.65% --- Marauder-Fury || Sentinel-Concentration 13 - 7660+-359 - -3.13% --- Powertech-Advanced Prototype || Vanguard-Tactics 14 - 7620+-246 - -3.64% --- Assassin-Hatred || Shadow-Serenity 15 - 7556+-273 - -4.45% --- Powertech-Pyrotech || Vanguard-Plasmatech 16 - 7553+-191 - -4.48% --- Sorcerer-Madness || Sage-Balance 17 - 7475+-329 - -5.47% --- Sniper-Marksman || Gunslinger-Sharpshooter 18 - 7405+-216 - -6.35% --- Sorcerer-Lightning || Sage-Telekinetics This is for item level 230 rating gear, so Tier 1 from Galactic Command Crates. Ranking is identical in Iokath Mk-5 gear, which is rating 242 and currently the best. That being said, conventional wisdom in 4.0 often put Concentration/Fury as a decent spec in pvp because of ease of target swapping and aoe. Bant is using a mathematical model to determine optimal dps using a defined rotation for each discipline, which may or may not be applicable to pvp where combat often is more fluid, more brief, involves non-stationary targets, and does not lend itself to rotations per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merovejec Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Hello, Happy with combat (and its mirror on my mara), I have rolled another sentinel and went Concentration spec. I like it, but I have no idea about which rotation would be good nor which utility points to take. Anyone got some tips about this spec? Dulfy etc. don't have a guide. Dulfy has a PVP Concentration guide now, if that helps PVP Concentration Sentinel Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahadori Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Dulfy has a PVP Concentration guide now, if that helps PVP Concentration Sentinel Guide You should link your guide in your signature mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galandro Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) I'm still using Oofalong's old concentration rotation modified for 5.0: Open - Force Leap / Zen > 1 - Focused Burst > Force Exhaustion > Concentrated Slice > Blade Barrage > Twin Saber Throw/Slash > Zealous Leap > Zealous Strike > 2 -Focused Burst > Blade Storm > Concentrated Slice > Slash/Dispatch > Zealous Leap > Slash/Zen > Got to 1 There two burst windows; Force Exhaustion primes the second, and I have just enough Centering for Zen just as I'm about to hit the first. It may because of I'm low on alacrity, but I've noticed a half second gap in the rotation after the first burst window (I think the old Blade Dance channel used to smooth that over) which I've been filling with Twin Saber throw or Slash (if focus is good). I substitute Dispatch for Slash in the second window when it's available. Edited February 4, 2017 by Galandro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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