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Just tried to go head to head with a mara, and got my <censor> handed to me. The problems seems to be 2-fold:

 

1) When facing a player I can't use Maul e.g. can't go behind him. As such my damage seems to be a bit crippled.

 

2) And I can't bloody take any damage. Once deflection is done, I am done.

 

If I stealth out to heal, the guy will just heal as well and we are back to start :/

 

Edit: what utilities do you use?

Edited by Lundorff
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Sin isn't a class to take others head-on. You need to out-smart enemies.

You have a toolbox big enough to give anyone a surprise, use it.

 

Kite, Stun, LoS, Mez, Stealth.. you have to use everything in order to get at someone elses throat.

Trick someone into using their stunbreak, or make them come to you by staying out of their line of sight.

 

There are so many things you can do.. Just DON'T facetank people. That doesn't and will never work with this class.

Posted (edited)
Just tried to go head to head with a mara, and got my <censor> handed to me. The problems seems to be 2-fold:

 

1) When facing a player I can't use Maul e.g. can't go behind him. As such my damage seems to be a bit crippled.

 

2) And I can't bloody take any damage. Once deflection is done, I am done.

 

If I stealth out to heal, the guy will just heal as well and we are back to start :/

 

Edit: what utilities do you use?

 

First of all, hitting a maul shouldn't be a problem. You should be able to just run "around" and hit it and if you can't, you can low slash then hit it.

 

And secondly, there is a lot of stuff one can do in 1v1. For example insta ww them for saber ward is good choice imo. And for the vanish->heal and them healing too -thing, try to make them use their breaker before you vanish. That way you can vanish->sap->heal and all they can do is watch you healing. And if they had no resolve when you did that, you should be able to stealth again and sap them and heal even more.

 

Posting on a phone and can't remember my utilities. Can update later if needed, though haven't done a lot of pure duels on 5.x yet, did a lot in 4.x tho

 

Edit: ofc doing duels is the best way to improve in them. You can ask guildies or people in fleet for some duels.

Edited by Kirpputori
Posted (edited)
Just tried to go head to head with a mara, and got my <censor> handed to me. The problems seems to be 2-fold:

 

1) When facing a player I can't use Maul e.g. can't go behind him. As such my damage seems to be a bit crippled.

 

2) And I can't bloody take any damage. Once deflection is done, I am done.

 

If I stealth out to heal, the guy will just heal as well and we are back to start :/

 

Edit: what utilities do you use?

 

if you can not global some one in 2 cc rotation your doing it wrong. there is nothing wrong with the class 1v1 as i can even kill the new 9 lives merc and there a pain.

 

1 you should be able to maul as your target should be spiked from first hit

 

2 you may have bad utilities

Edited by Neoforcer
Posted (edited)

Not at 55mins, right? Wasmt before although I was playing radio at the time so it might've gotten muted recently.

 

Ill check later and otherwise ill dedicate a vid and redo it.

 

Edit: It's not. Not where it matters anyway.

Edited by Evolixe
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Man, u can maul all around just make 1 step forward throw the enemy. U play like a real, staying eyes to eyes or runing around the over player. try it on wz dummy.

 

Sin is not weak far enough. Ask Evolixe best of the world top ultimate true shadow.:rolleyes:

Posted (edited)

your playing them wrong or the other person is just better then you. I find that deception will rip most other class apart in seconds.

 

It can even be done to the jesus mode mercs. just require for thought awareness of what other person buff and procs dcd are

Edited by Kyuuu
Posted

I'v been playing a sin for a while... and while not too bad, sins are not a 1 on 1 class... we are a **** in a corner and run away class, remember you are not an concealment oper or a mara! :) Damage you put out, is not that big, and defenses you have are not enough for a prolonged duel. so use 30% damage reduction while stunned for example ...

 

Also what I like to do, if he has no breaker, whirlwind his ***, exit combat and heal while he is turning in whirlwind! :D Do it before u use your defenses... use your defenses later, worked for me, many times, as usually most opponents tend to use their defenses at the beginning, by the time whirlwind wears off they will have less or no defenses available! :)

 

P.S About OP mercs, I find snipers to be still very effective against them! >D

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your playing them wrong or the other person is just better then you. I find that deception will rip most other class apart in seconds.

 

It can even be done to the jesus mode mercs. just require for thought awareness of what other person buff and procs dcd are

 

I agree. However, I won't say seconds......Depends on the opponent class/spec.

 

-xgiga

Posted
Just tried to go head to head with a mara, and got my <censor> handed to me. The problems seems to be 2-fold:

 

1) When facing a player I can't use Maul e.g. can't go behind him. As such my damage seems to be a bit crippled.

 

2) And I can't bloody take any damage. Once deflection is done, I am done.

 

If I stealth out to heal, the guy will just heal as well and we are back to start :/

 

Edit: what utilities do you use?

Stop relaying on mauling so much. You have the under 1/3HP power available at any time you teleport to a target. Use that instead. If you want mass maul, use stuns.

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