Freeborne Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Seems at end game the challenge for commando is keeping yourself in a good rotation so your ammo level doesn't drop very low and regens at a dependable rate. I haven't really crunched the numbers yet. I've just been going with my gut to find the best balance. What do you use? At 39, against boss type targets I find myself doing: Grav Round x 3 (To get a full staff of the debuff) High Impact Bolt Full Auto Hammer Shot x 2 Grav Round (To refresh the debuff before it falls off) Then I continue to juggle High Impact Bolt, Fully Auto as they're CDs come up, keeping Grav Rounds refreshed, and Hammershots inbetween so my regen doesn't go to crap. What about you? Note: I'm 1 point again from Demolition Round, so I haven't worked that into my rotation yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fight Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Please refer to this post: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=90972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeborne Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 Please refer to this post: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=90972 Wow, redirecting me to your troll comment, how helpful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fight Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Wow, redirecting me to your troll comment, how helpful! It's trolling? Inflate your bars with whatever you feel necessary, but the bottom line is grav round is a massive hit which ad hears to the 1.5sec gcd and is the most efficient way to produce dps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadoken Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 It's trolling? Inflate your bars with whatever you feel necessary, but the bottom line is grav round is a massive hit which ad hears to the 1.5sec gcd and is the most efficient way to produce dps. That is incorrect. Demo round hits harder on a 5 stacked target, as does Full Auto with curtain of fire proccing. There is a method to Gunnery DPS that is more than just spamming grav round. That is, of course, assuming you're interested in achieving 'max dps' and not just 'dps'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miallen Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I generally use this combo, with an extra Hammer Shot or so thrown in. Seems to manage Ammo pretty well for me. We will see in a couple levels when I have Demo Round. Grav Round x2 Full Auto Charged Bolts Hammer Shot Grav Round <--- Demo Round planned location High Impact Bolt Then start over... I also use some CC abilities like Concussion Charge and Cryo Grenade as needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiel Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Right now at level 29 for single target soloing I do Grav Round Cryo-grenade Full Auto High Impact Bolt then spam Grav Round and use HIB off cooldown. Thus far that has been working well for me, but once I get the grav round debuff boosting talent I'll probably change up my rotation to do 2 grav rounds prior to the Cryo-nade because 4 stacks will yield more DPS than the 1 I have now when I throw teh cryo, but I do it early so Elara will shoot during the stun timer as well adding a little DPS there currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altiris Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I generally use this combo, with an extra Hammer Shot or so thrown in. Seems to manage Ammo pretty well for me. We will see in a couple levels when I have Demo Round. Grav Round x2 Full Auto Charged Bolts Hammer Shot Grav Round <--- Demo Round planned location High Impact Bolt Then start over... I also use some CC abilities like Concussion Charge and Cryo Grenade as needed. You shouldn't be using Charged Bolts as Gunnery once you get Grav Round. While Charged Bolts can proc Curtain of Fire, it doesn't stack Charged Barrel and doesn't proc Cell Charger. It may do slightly more damage, but nerfs other abilities and ammo regen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fight Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 That is incorrect. Demo round hits harder on a 5 stacked target, as does Full Auto with curtain of fire proccing. There is a method to Gunnery DPS that is more than just spamming grav round. That is, of course, assuming you're interested in achieving 'max dps' and not just 'dps'. Apologies. Bind half your keyboard to demo round, commence the faceroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altiris Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Apologies. Bind half your keyboard to demo round, commence the faceroll. And do less DPS than good Commandos, who use other abilities that do more DPS/regen more ammo. I'm assuming you only fight normal/strong mobs, ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadoken Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 And do less DPS than good Commandos, who use other abilities that do more DPS/regen more ammo. I'm assuming you only fight normal/strong mobs, ever? I suspect the bulk of his combat is on the forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylersavesworld Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 do you all use armor piercing cells all the time? sorry i am noob commando... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altiris Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 do you all use armor piercing cells all the time? sorry i am noob commando... Yes, if for nothing else than to get Cell Charger procs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdridens Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Its more of a priority for me than a rotation. The two things I look out for are my ammo levels and my Curtain of Fire proc, so... If Ammo is less than 50% then Hammer Shot + ammo recover abilities until full ammo.If Curtain of Fire is proc'd then Full Auto After that my goal is to get Grav Round stacks to 5, at which point my priority looks like this High Impact BoltDemolition Round My filler ability is Grav Round, which is spammed until one of the conditions above is met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethyn Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Lvl 42 Gunnery Commando. My rotation PvE: -Full Auto - Get this on cool down for Grav Round proc. **Grav Round Loop** -Grav Round ----If it procs Full Auto *chance of regen (cell charger) -Grav Round ----If it procs Full Auto *chance of regen (cell charger) -Hammer Shot -Regen -Grav Round ----If it procs Full Auto *chance of regen (cell charger) -Hammer Shot *Regen -High Impact Bolt -Demo Round -Hammer Shot *Regen *Rinse and Repeat with Hammer Shot as needed. I can typically sustain a champion fight with this roation using recharge once. -Aethyn Edited December 28, 2011 by Aethyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miallen Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 You shouldn't be using Charged Bolts as Gunnery once you get Grav Round. While Charged Bolts can proc Curtain of Fire, it doesn't stack Charged Barrel and doesn't proc Cell Charger. It may do slightly more damage, but nerfs other abilities and ammo regen. Awesome. Thanks for the insight! I just figured I should make the most out of it with CB, but it has an excruciatingly long activation timer...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miallen Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 So, here is the next question I have. As a Gunnery spec commando, is there any real usefulness in using any other abilities for anything other than one off attacks? For instance... Plasma Grenade Sticky Grenade Hail of Bolts Explosive Round Pulse Cannon I can see using things like Mortar Volley to quickly take out small packs of low end mobs, but most of our abilities no longer matter once you get set in your standard rotation, or am I off base here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadoken Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) So, here is the next question I have. As a Gunnery spec commando, is there any real usefulness in using any other abilities for anything other than one off attacks? For instance... Plasma Grenade Sticky Grenade Hail of Bolts Explosive Round Pulse Cannon I can see using things like Mortar Volley to quickly take out small packs of low end mobs, but most of our abilities no longer matter once you get set in your standard rotation, or am I off base here? Explosive Round is the only one I've found no use for. The rest are good AE abilities depending on how the mobs are positioned (plasma grenade has a slightly greater AE range than sticky and takes out all normals for the duration, whereas sticky has a faster cooldown, etc). My typical all normal/weak mob 'rotation' is to do mortar round then one or two hail of bolts depending on how many are left alive. Then next pack do plasma grenade and sticky grenade on one target and lay a hail of bolts on them, when the booms go off everything dies typically. I save pulse cannon for a bunch of melee mobs up in my face, as it has the greatest damage to ammo usage for an AE, just terrible range. Edited December 28, 2011 by hadoken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethyn Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 So, here is the next question I have. As a Gunnery spec commando, is there any real usefulness in using any other abilities for anything other than one off attacks? For instance... Plasma Grenade Sticky Grenade Hail of Bolts Explosive Round Pulse Cannon I can see using things like Mortar Volley to quickly take out small packs of low end mobs, but most of our abilities no longer matter once you get set in your standard rotation, or am I off base here? PvE Groups of regular mobs - Plasma Grenade, they all stand there burning. Mortar round them all down. Sticky grenade I use for that one pesky guy off to the side not grouped with the others. Hail of Bolts is not on my quick bar. Explosive round I use to keep that regular melee guy from getting to me. Just keep knocking him down. Pulse cannon I use when Plasma and Mortar round are down. PvP Plasma grenade enemies cluttered around objective clickies. Pulse canon around objectives that need clicking. -Aethyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miallen Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 At least I am using some of these abilities as I should. I did just learn a new use for Plasma Grenade at least. I just find myself running my rotation a lot more than anything else here. The occasional usage of other abilities thrown in here and there...but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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