neuronfly Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 What do you guys think will happen to SWTOR if one day Bioware decides "Enough is enough... We won't tolerate anymore EA dictatorship" and then finally separates from EA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doelow Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Doesn't EA have exclusive rights to Star Wars video games because of that deal they made with Disney? If Bioware split from EA either this game would be shut down, or EA would hire a new team to run it under a different name while Bioware lost all rights to it. That's what I think at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_plankskull Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 What do you guys think will happen to SWTOR if one day Bioware decides "Enough is enough... We won't tolerate anymore EA dictatorship" and then finally separates from EA? Everything bad = EA, Everything good = Bioware? We don't know if EA actively controls Bioware forcing them to chalk out this terrible system, just the release date as seen with that tirade of doing it in the battlefield series. Both of them have blood on there hands and are to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsetso Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 There is no such thing as separating from EA. EA owns them. They could try to buy off their shares but that would require EA to be willing to sell them. Which i don't think is going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) I don't think Bioware has the money to keep swtor going? No idea. But then if EA owns it... It'll be worse. Edited December 12, 2016 by Eshvara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neuronfly Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Doesn't EA have exclusive rights to Star Wars video games because of that deal they made with Disney? If Bioware split from EA either this game would be shut down, or EA would hire a new team to run it under a different name while Bioware lost all rights to it. That's what I think at least. Sad... and here I thought by leaving EA the game would become very improved by Bioware because then no one would be able to boss them around. Edited December 12, 2016 by neuronfly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerraShar Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Let's not forget this isn't the Old BW anymore anyway . A pinguin could be making the decision and we won't see a difference . Well until you reach Hoth and find Igloo ! but that's about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neuronfly Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 Everything bad = EA, Everything good = Bioware? We don't know if EA actively controls Bioware forcing them to chalk out this terrible system, just the release date as seen with that tirade of doing it in the battlefield series. Both of them have blood on there hands and are to blame. I think the main reason why there has been no ops for almost 2 years is simply because of EA. I think Bioware wants to make new ops, flashpoints and daily zones but EA doesn't let them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Ea are the people in suits who look at profit and losses and fund to whatever they think is most profitable. I doubt they know anything about their games or gaming in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepird Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 EA owns Bioware and the original staff left for greener pastures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divona Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Bioware Austin is different than the Bioware you know who did Kotor series. When it comes to EA then they will never give up their investment if it makes profit no matter what it takes. Hence the reason why we are not seeing big content updates for many years. This game has limitations and EA is full aware how much they want to invest into this game. Until Disney starts to make new SW MMO there is nothing gonig to happen with Bioware SWTOR unless players finaly get tired doing same content year after year and stop giving money. If new players are happy then EA can milk this game using Bioware for more coming years. If i would be in EA position i would do same and laugh silently in background Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doelow Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Everything bad = EA, Everything good = Bioware? We don't know if EA actively controls Bioware forcing them to chalk out this terrible system, just the release date as seen with that tirade of doing it in the battlefield series. Both of them have blood on there hands and are to blame. Despite what the small minority of stalker-level nerds would say, Bioware is an extremely successful studio. They have the KOTOR, Mass Effect, and Dragon Age games to their name. These games have all been critically acclaimed and sold very well. I can think of -one- Bioware game in recent history I didn't like. Just one. I really doubt EA is meddling in their affairs. EA needs a solid studio like Bioware so that their name can retain some level of confidence. Not many people have goodwill towards EA, myself included, and it has nothing to do with some kind of irrational hate fest against them. I just really struggle to associate their name with quality games. The last "not Bioware" EA game I bought was the Battlefront game last year. Very pretty, but exactly what I should have expected from EA/Dice: a lot of style, zero substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neuronfly Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 The main reason why FFXIV and WOW are so successful and popular right now is because both Square Enix and Blizzard are independent companies. They are not owned by another parent company and they make their own decisions. Imagine if Bioware were an independent company like them and had money like blizzard or Square SWTOR would have become a masterpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newyankalt Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I don't think Bioware has the money to keep swtor going? No idea. But then if EA owns it... It'll be worse. Idk EA only put their stamp on it in 2010, game had been in development for 4-5 years before that time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Idk EA only put their stamp on it in 2010, game had been in development for 4-5 years before that time And this was because they needed more recourses no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsetso Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 The main reason why FFXIV and WOW are so successful and popular right now is because both Square Enix and Blizzard are independent companies. They are not owned by another parent company and they make their own decisions. Imagine if Bioware were an independent company like them and had money like blizzard or Square SWTOR would have become a masterpiece. I think Blizzard is part of Activision Blizzard or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllisonLightning Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Everything bad = EA, Everything good = Bioware? We don't know if EA actively controls Bioware forcing them to chalk out this terrible system, just the release date as seen with that tirade of doing it in the battlefield series. Both of them have blood on there hands and are to blame. It's like the delusional apologists think that they aren't in control of systems that will make things so much better. This is signature Bioware. EA isn't the big bad the OP thinks they are- Bioware thinks that any complaints with anything regarding their games has to do with a lack of appreciation than any shortcoming. They are the reasons you have none of the content you want. EA makes decisions economically- any doubts- you think EA makes Bioware have Liara/Leliana/Lana featured as their favourite pet- or chooses to deprive the game of the content people ask for, like faction quests, raids and so on to launch into their single player RPG? Bioware doesn't get a choice and anyone who has watched the antics over the last six odd years knows they need supervision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damedius Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 The main reason why FFXIV and WOW are so successful and popular right now is because both Square Enix and Blizzard are independent companies. They are not owned by another parent company and they make their own decisions. Imagine if Bioware were an independent company like them and had money like blizzard or Square SWTOR would have become a masterpiece. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activision_Blizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamtas Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 What do you guys think will happen to SWTOR if one day Bioware decides "Enough is enough... We won't tolerate anymore EA dictatorship" and then finally separates from EA? They did - and they left Bioware. Bioware now is not the folks you are thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 What do you guys think will happen to SWTOR if one day Bioware decides "Enough is enough... We won't tolerate anymore EA dictatorship" and then finally separates from EA? I think you'd wake up, because this could only happen in your wildest dreams. EA OWNS Bioware...there is no leaving. There is no Bioware without EA ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsillah Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 You assume that Bioware actually has that choice. The only way they could do that is if they buy themselves out of EA and I am sure they can't afford that. Also the rights to work on the BW titles are with EA now so EA may not even be willing to let them have those at all. All you can do if you want to regain your integrity is to quit at BW. Start a new company with brand new IP's and not put yourself on the stock market or at least not sell shares publicly. That way nobody can buy you out. Of course you will not have the same budgets to build games but you also don't have the same restrictions that EA no doubt imposes. Nowadays a kick start might do the trick, since ex-employees from makers of DA and ME might have quite a bit of pull still with the public. Don't think it'll happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACharlieV Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 As long as it is a Star Wars title, someone else will always "boss them around". Keep in mind also, Bioware isn't some indie studio with far out ideas that could never get through because of big mean corporate: they're a real successful company with a bottom line too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasmaJohn Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 EA OWNS Bioware...there is no leaving. There is no Bioware without EA ever again. There is no more Bioware only BINO (Bioware in name only). Any such separation would be EA ejecting spinning off the studio to get their drag on the financials off the books not the other way around. But even if such an event were to happen it's pretty much moot. EA has exclusive rights to the Star Wars IP for producing computer games. Nobody gets to make a Star Wars game without EA being able to pee on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnAskham Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Bioware is a division of EA, as in EA owns Bioware, as in Bioware leaving EA on their own would only happen in fantasy land. As the corporate owner of Bioware, EA has absolute control over Bioware, though that doesn't mean some MBA in EA's Redwood Shores corporate offices phones Ben in Austin twice a day to tell him how to manage the game, but it does mean that Bioware Austin can't just independently decide to spend millions on some new project without corporate approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshlaBoga Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Doesn't EA have exclusive rights to Star Wars video games because of that deal they made with Disney? If Bioware split from EA either this game would be shut down, or EA would hire a new team to run it under a different name while Bioware lost all rights to it. That's what I think at least. I'm not a lawyer, but I'm not 100% they could split from EA even if they wanted to escape EA's clutches with all of their hearts. Edit: Bioware is a division of EA, as in EA owns Bioware, as in Bioware leaving EA on their own would only happen in fantasy land. [/Quote] Okay, that's what I suspected. Thanks for confirming. Edited December 12, 2016 by AshlaBoga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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