Theology Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Give me a break. Seriously, just give me a break already. Why has this not been addressed?? How long does an awful decision have to stick around in this game? Carbine Burst is 100% undeniably the single worst ability in our entire kit, yet is given the responsibility of one of the most crucial aspects of the spec. No ground effect, no radius detection, nothing. It's literally an unusable skill. Why has this not been addressed and changed already? The other DoT specs are superior ONLY because of their ability to spread. I have to waste an extra 4-5 GCDs just to get my dart on people. It's so clunky and underthought that it makes my head spin. Either give carbine burst a ground effect and let us choose where where to place it, just like the merc spammable aoe, or make Frag grenade spread dart, problem solved. It's that easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greezt Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiveringPotato Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Carbine Burst is by far the worst ability in the entire game. I think it needs to be replaced entirely, no amount of tweaking of its current parameters will make it useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephxp Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Carbine Burst is by far the worst ability in the entire game. I think it needs to be replaced entirely, no amount of tweaking of its current parameters will make it useful. Exactly, i mean flamethrower/pulse cannon at least do damage and their tank upgrades, carbine burst and blaster volley just me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevMeup Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 If we are lucky they will give us a little help since it's a pain to aim, like +20% damage and Spread of both dots (handy as new ads come in). Changing how it's aimed would kind of faceroll things. In general, since we're a melee, it should be comparable to Assassin's Lacerate, Warriors Sweeping Slash, and PT's flame sweep. Since warriors can spread dots using smash, maybe we could also spread using normal grenades? I just wouldn't want to wait on a CD to spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rion_Starkiller Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 I would enjoy Carbine Burst if it were a 360 degree pirouette. Pewpewpewpewpewpew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmarantKando Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 I would enjoy Carbine Burst if it were a 360 degree pirouette. Pewpewpewpewpewpew This would be a proper fix imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsetso Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 This would be a proper fix imo or just add it to corrosive grenade like snipers' dot spread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiveringPotato Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Personally, I'd rather them revamp the ability to be a 5m, 360 PBAOE tech melee ability. Like some kind of either spinning knife slash, or spinning knife throw thing. Maybe even give it a short CD akin to Smash as well, if they could up the damage on it considerably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstiber Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Agreed. Carbine burst is a joke. Fan of vibroknifes!!! 360 aoe for dot spread! Oh... wait! The only thing what we get is another Cartel Pack and new experience of opening. Kappa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmarantKando Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 or just add it to corrosive grenade like snipers' dot spread Jea that'd be an even better fix tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiltonium Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Carbine Burst just needs to be a 360 and look like, say, gun-fu from The Secret World, where you do sweet ninja gun shooty moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dropfall Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 I would prefer if they removed Carbine Burst and gave us an entirely new Grenade ability. This ability would be a 10m range, 5m AoE, energy attack that is placed rather than requiring a target. Same damage and same cost as Carbine Burst, and of course spammable. Only problem is what to call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRomanRuler Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Agreed carbine burst is awful. I don`t understand why it can`t be just like sweeping gunfire (gunslinger) which is great ability. My smuggler is only at level 16 but at the moment i use it constantly. I NEVER use carbine burst. Sweeping gunfire basically fills the same role as carbine burst, but it actually is amazing ability instead of being awful. Carbine burst certainly gets my vote for worst ability in entire game. Edited October 17, 2016 by TheRomanRuler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool-dude Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 I think toxic grenade should spread your dots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLazarillo Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 I think toxic grenade should spread your dots. Do you mean the current Discipline ability Corrosive Grenade or the new 5.0 ability Toxic Haze? If the former, yeah, it'd be nice, since I believe that's how Snipers get it, too. If the latter, I dunno. While a PBAoE spread is nicer than a cone, I don't think I want to be reliant on an ability that has both a cooldown and a Tactical Advantage requirement for spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosttj Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 I add to 360 pirouette sentiment. I would also like my toon to either have a distinctive "AAAAAAH" yell or Ciril Figus, from Archer, yelling his classic "SUPPRESSING FIRE" added to the sound effects of the ability. But for real, I saw Musco playing an operative last night on a live stream. Be our champion eric, push this one to the top of that white board of ideas that'll never happen please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalonVII Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Yeah carbine burst is terrible. I'm a fan of a grenade ability to replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theology Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 For anyone who is keeping their eye on the changes made to Operative but may be unsubbed, rest assured that the new Noxious Knives ability is functionally, cosmetically, and over all much better than carbine burst, and after playing a few warzones, I'm convinced that it can be used for reliable dot spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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