Dongtown Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 Hey only started playing a few weeks ago, so sorry if this is a stupid/newbie question. OK so basically let's say I cover on Q, then I have Snipe on 2, and then I also have Snipe on 2 in the cover bar. If I have cover bar enabled, I cannot quickly press Q->2, there is a noticeable delay- maybe ~0.1 seconds- before I am allowed to cast Snipe (since the server doesn't give you your cover bar quick enough). However, if I simply turn off the cover bar, I can press Q->2 and the Snipe will immediately start casting. This is a shame because I like the cover bar and it would make things so much easier if it wasn't for the lag (I would just make 2 go into cover, then 2 for Snipe so I could double tap 2 instead of pressing Q->2). Is there any workaround to this or am I just forced to not use the cover bar if I want to be able to play my class optimally? Thanks for reading!
Camelpockets Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 Hey only started playing a few weeks ago, so sorry if this is a stupid/newbie question. OK so basically let's say I cover on Q, then I have Snipe on 2, and then I also have Snipe on 2 in the cover bar. If I have cover bar enabled, I cannot quickly press Q->2, there is a noticeable delay- maybe ~0.1 seconds- before I am allowed to cast Snipe (since the server doesn't give you your cover bar quick enough). However, if I simply turn off the cover bar, I can press Q->2 and the Snipe will immediately start casting. This is a shame because I like the cover bar and it would make things so much easier if it wasn't for the lag (I would just make 2 go into cover, then 2 for Snipe so I could double tap 2 instead of pressing Q->2). Is there any workaround to this or am I just forced to not use the cover bar if I want to be able to play my class optimally? Thanks for reading! This is actually less about using the cover bar specifically, but moreso about using cover in general. As one of the main traits of cover, you are immune to pushback. Pushback is the delaying of a casted ability due to damage taken. For example, if you play a sorc or merc (sage or commando), typically you'll find from time to time that abilities are being delayed when you are being hurt. That is pushback. So while entering cover takes a split second to do, it is a key tool for the Sniper. While you might suffer a very minimal Actions per Minute drop initially, this could increase more if cover is not used due to pushback. Eventually, with enough skill with the class/spec, you will be able to determine when you should enter or drop cover as the situation changes. What most people do, to keep APM high, is to time entering/leaving cover when an instant cast ability is used. (Such as Takedown/Quickdraw). I'm typing this at 1am, and this is probably not my best work at all. I'm really tired and don't feel like getting into it. I'm sure someone will get more into detail with it, since people here are cool like that. Hopefully this will be a start.
Dongtown Posted November 27, 2015 Author Posted November 27, 2015 So while entering cover takes a split second to do If you do not use the cover bar, it does not slow your next ability down at all. It takes a split second only if you use the cover bar! Basically I don't use cover bar right now, and my hotkeys right now look like this: https://i.gyazo.com/a5d0da5567f0f79b0c03cdc3b78f7c02.png It would be sooooooo nice if I could use a cover bar without lag with the exact same keys, but my default keys look like this so I could just double tap 2 to use Snipe, Double tap 4 to use Blasts, instead of doing Q->2 or Q->4 respectively: https://i.gyazo.com/be54d9e241e778da726cd48e90df2760.png (Specifically, look at Snipe/PT/Ambush/Entrench/Cover Pulse compared in the 2 screenshots)
sumquy Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 maybe i'm not understanding what your asking. moving into cover is off the global cooldown, so you could jump in and out of cover 2 or maybe 3 times between using your abilities and not have any delay.
Equeliber Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 I have take cover as an ability on a quickbar and it is actually bound to 2. And snipe is on 2 too. So double tapping 2 for a quick snipe is exactly what I do. No delay or anything. As people above me said, entering cover is off GCD so there is no delay even if you have different keybinds.
Dongtown Posted December 2, 2015 Author Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) I have take cover as an ability on a quickbar and it is actually bound to 2. And snipe is on 2 too. So double tapping 2 for a quick snipe is exactly what I do. No delay or anything. As people above me said, entering cover is off GCD so there is no delay even if you have different keybinds. Try entering cover and sniping without the cover bar. compare side by side (just use multiple hotkeys at the same time for testing) and let me know if it is faster for you As I mentioned in the OP, the delay has nothing to do with the GCD, it is roughly only a tenth of a second Edited December 2, 2015 by Dongtown
sumquy Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 I have take cover as an ability on a quickbar and it is actually bound to 2. And snipe is on 2 too. So double tapping 2 for a quick snipe is exactly what I do. No delay or anything. As people above me said, entering cover is off GCD so there is no delay even if you have different keybinds. having the 2 different abilities in the same place is what is causing your "delay". but going into cover does not start combat. if you want to you can go into cover and sit there for 20 minutes then use snipe and no delay. honestly, i don't understand why you would want to bind cover to 2. take cover is an off cooldown ability that you can use at any time. if you want to get rid of the delay, then switch take cover back to it's default of F and use that.
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