Death-Hammer Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 I took down some numbers on my main before the patch to compare to after the patch. The following is the result. I have legendary status, legacy level 50, only missing 9 companion presence unlocks and all datacrons. Lana Influence level 18 Before 4.02.........................................................After 4.02 Soothe-10613....................................................4269 mending-4001...................................................5213 ( over 9 seconds both ) Enlivening force-15451....................................3575 Scorpio Influence level 1 Before 4.02.........................................................After 4.02 Kolto quick scan-8700......................................3886 Kolto drip-3276..................................................4648 Progressive Kolto scan-10546.......................3187 Enlivening force and progressive kolto scan were nerfed by 70%. I have another toon that is a healer for a comparison the numbers for my healing toon is as follows. full 208 gear with full 200 augments Innervate- 10920 Revivification-6067 over 10 Dark Infusion-7334 ( high end ) Those are the stats for my healer toon. The stats for my healer toon are 50% higher than the companions stats for comparable abilities now. That is a big difference. Players are always better than companions by default. So when you nerf them this much you are going to upset people. This is why I am upset, the numbers are way to low. From what I have seen, a lot of people agree with me. I agree the numbers were to high to start with but now they are to low. I honestly think the lowest the companion abilities should be is 90% of players stats not 50%.
Ferretfur Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 I agree the numbers were to high to start with but now they are to low. I honestly think the lowest the companion abilities should be is 90% of players stats not 50%. Good to see some numbers showing the huge cut. I also agree that the companions were too good, but they were nerfed to low. A bit of a boost back up would certainly resolve things.
Wigetts Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 Agree. nerf was done with a slegehammer. should have been thought out more. its to much, and they screwed up. only a few hardcore fanboys like it, but thats due to the fact that they generally never use comp. so.. their you go. BW needs to back down the nerfs, not remove them, as personally they where a high, but .. the size and scale was .. just stupid. plain and simple .. bone-head move BW. fix it..
JourrnoRush Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 Numbers or not, I'm not seeing a crazy rise in difficulty.
FenyxSprig Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 There's a part of me that really thinks the dev's were trolling. To show the people who were ************ were indeed a vocal minority and that the changes could be much worse. I can't possibly imagine they'll leave it this way. Before the 4.0 the servers were extremely low pop and they were calls for another server merge. Afterward, they had to increase server capacity. That swell of people who came in, a few will stay but a lot of them will leave. I don't think that it will kill the game, it wasn't dead before 4.0. I do however think it'll go back to talk of a server merge. Thanks for the numbers, they just go to show how severe the cuts were.
Ferretfur Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 Numbers or not, I'm not seeing a crazy rise in difficulty. I agree, no crazy rise in difficulty for the most part, but companions shouldn't have been hit so hard to have ended up worse than they were before 4.0 for ability use (well, on healing anyway), especially as you cannot gear them now (which I do like btw, that you don't have to worry about grinding for them too).
Theik Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Numbers or not, I'm not seeing a crazy rise in difficulty. Do you actually use companions in healing mode though? And are you, perhaps, a very high geared tank who was getting 99% overhealing to begin with, anyway? I noticed that on my jedi knight who's a dps spec, I have been resting way more doing normal content while levelling her up, simply because my companion's healing has gone down the drain so much. Edited November 19, 2015 by Theik
Fardarter Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 I just cancelled my sub. not the one month one mind you, a 6 month one that had been recurring. I have played since beta. So if you think they are only going to lose the people who just dropped by for the expansion over this I am proof of at least one long time long paying player will be voting with his wallet over this. Things were going well and BW had to go and ruin it, I am making sure they know how I feel.
Draqsko Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 I agree, no crazy rise in difficulty for the most part, but companions shouldn't have been hit so hard to have ended up worse than they were before 4.0 for ability use (well, on healing anyway), especially as you cannot gear them now (which I do like btw, that you don't have to worry about grinding for them too). I'd rather grind for them too than be spoon-fed the crap they are trying to feed us with them being almost as good as a player but not quite. They are almost but not quite as good as a player was at level 50 in Campaign gear 3 years ago. Newsflash, it's 4.0 now, not 1.0 anymore.
poll_ Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 I noticed that on my jedi knight who's a dps spec, I have been resting way more doing normal content while levelling her up, simply because my companion's healing has gone down the drain so much. I noticed the same with a jedi consular
Neglience Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) There's a part of me that really thinks the dev's were trolling. To show the people who were ************ were indeed a vocal minority and that the changes could be much worse. I can't possibly imagine they'll leave it this way. Before the 4.0 the servers were extremely low pop and they were calls for another server merge. Afterward, they had to increase server capacity. That swell of people who came in, a few will stay but a lot of them will leave. I don't think that it will kill the game, it wasn't dead before 4.0. I do however think it'll go back to talk of a server merge. Thanks for the numbers, they just go to show how severe the cuts were. The servers had more active players for 1-2 weeks. After that, it was pretty much the same as before 4.0. Server merges are still needed. For the EU. Those 9 servers should be reduced to 3 maybe 1-2 more. Edited November 19, 2015 by Neglience
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