kronichabit Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Great idea huh? PvP players must run Dread Palace HM to get expertise hilt or barrel and is the only way to complete 2018 expertise These poor pve players that run nightmare mode dread fortress and are just so awesome at what they do.. until you throw them into the wolves and now they realize that there clueless on how to play there class. That's a awesome idea for to get pve players to re sub. Nothing says resub more than 50k damage/heals in a warzone... I believe that I should be paid for my idea. that's just as alienating and appalling idea for a pvp pub to do to. I'm sure the re subs will line up at the door to to run HM dread palace for the full expertise set. you can thank me later DEVs
NikSunrider Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 10/10 troll. I can't even think of a counter.
Icykill_ Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Great idea huh? PvP players must run Dread Palace HM to get expertise hilt or barrel and is the only way to complete 2018 expertise These poor pve players that run nightmare mode dread fortress and are just so awesome at what they do.. until you throw them into the wolves and now they realize that there clueless on how to play there class. That's a awesome idea for to get pve players to re sub. Nothing says resub more than 50k damage/heals in a warzone... I believe that I should be paid for my idea. that's just as alienating and appalling idea for a pvp pub to do to. I'm sure the re subs will line up at the door to to run HM dread palace for the full expertise set. you can thank me later DEVs The thing is, PVP players wouldn't have a skill issue or a gear issue... Sure we may be pissed about having to do it... But if we had to do it, it wouldn't be as big an issue for us as it is for PVE people coming new to high lvl PVP... I'm not trying to be elitist either... All we need to do to learn the OP is to watch some YouTube clips of how to do it... PVP people play a constantly changing game and have the ability to adapt quickly... Most PVE content is the same each time, the mobs do exactly the same amount of damage and are controlled by a script that tells them to do x y z... It's a different type of game play, sure it takes skill and strategy, but it's still artificial... When you play PVP, every encounter is random and playing other people instead of a machine is more difficult because machines are predictable and people aren't or not as much... Once you have watched the YouTube clip of the OP it is pretty easy to do and is usually boring As for running HM OPs in full ranked PVP gear... Sure no problem... Been there, done that and I have the Strong Hold decorations to prove it... A good group of PVPers who know the strategy of an operation can run any OP in PVP gear... You don't have to believe me... But maybe next time you see a person in your PVE group with full ranked PVP gear you should let them have a go instead of booting them from the OPs group before it starts... We don't have that option in PVP
warstory Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Honestly if u can play high end pve ur going to be a really good pvper. The best tanks and healers come from the pve side
AlrikFassbauer Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) The OPs I ran with were more mostly laid back and fun-oriented than PUGs in War Zones. My only exception is a PUG which couldn't get past Draxus. Edited November 18, 2015 by AlrikFassbauer
Icykill_ Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Honestly if u can play high end pve ur going to be a really good pvper. The best tanks and healers come from the pve side Wait, what??... PVP healers are so much better than PVE healers... And tanking in PVE and PVP are completely different... Most PVE people can't tank in PVP worth a damn... And I am yet to find any highend PVE (only) people to be good at PVP or any better than anyone else learning PVP. The only difference is that they do already have knowledge on their particular class which might give them an advantage over new pvpers... But I've never, ever come across a highend PVE only person who could play as well an average PVP person in a WZ...
Kawabonga Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Wait, what??... PVP healers are so much better than PVE healers... And tanking in PVE and PVP are completely different... Most PVE people can't tank in PVP worth a damn... And I am yet to find any highend PVE (only) people to be good at PVP or any better than anyone else learning PVP. The only difference is that they do already have knowledge on their particular class which might give them an advantage over new pvpers... But I've never, ever come across a highend PVE only person who could play as well an average PVP person in a WZ... You have yet to find a good PvE-only tank good at tanking in PvP? Did you buy that logic at Lidl
Jherad Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Heh, yeah this about the companion. Again. So the companion is essentially just a cosmetic skin of other companions that everyone gets. If you already had that companion before, you don't need to do anything to reacquire it. If ONLY there was a cosmetic reskin of something that everyone gets that only dropped in Ops or Flashpoints and people would have to PVE for. Like say a mount. Oh. Wait.
Lhancelot Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Fact is, most PVPers find ways to gear around avoiding PVE stuffs. PVE for Gear appearance stuffs? We avoid that too. I always kinda wanted that big giant bell hat, from some ops. I never even researched what ops it is, or how to get it though because I knew I never wanted to do a raid on this game. There's so many other things I like and can get without having to do a "story-mode" or "nightmare-mode" ops. They even sound stupid to me. What I find fascinating is PVE-ers who supposedly dread PVP so much, will actually trudge through 20 PVP matches just to get a companion? Wow. They need to make the matches count as wins only. And bump up the total count to 50 needed. 20 aint enough. That way, you only get people truly dedicated to work for that companion. This type of player would actually try in PVP. Obviously a PVE-er has the tolerance of Job when it comes to getting skins or companions. They will literally walk through fire if that's what it would take to get a combat droid for a companion, as long as limited effort is required, that is. If they were asked to put some effort into it, they'd not even attempt it.
Storm-Cutter Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) just gonna wear my crappiest PvP gear and go AFk at the burn phases (when everyone is required to max DPS) and then stand in stupid- so they wipe and wipe, and waste the time of the other 15 people in my raid. I got >200M to use on repair bills, so it's gonna take time to spend my way through that. They £F^£$"£$~$** up our corner of the game- why not do it to them? * or are we better than stooping to their level? -Can't wait for the next new op. Edited November 18, 2015 by Storm-Cutter
AlrikFassbauer Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Yes ! Let the rage flow through you !
AlrikFassbauer Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) What I find fascinating is PVE-ers who supposedly dread PVP so much, will actually trudge through 20 PVP matches just to get a companion? Wow. What do you mean with this "wow" ? "Woiw" that theygo into a lethal minefield, ready to get blown up, only to get a Companion ? "Wow" because Bioware didn't give them any other way to get those Companions ? "Wow" because you look down on Companions like some sort of trash, ready to be thrown away because it doesn't bother you at all ? - Which implies that you seem to believe that everything PvE is inferior to everything PvP, and that everything PvP is superior to everything PvE. Edited November 18, 2015 by AlrikFassbauer
branmakmuffin Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 The thing is, PVP players wouldn't have a skill issue or a gear issue... Sure we may be pissed about having to do it... But if we had to do it, it wouldn't be as big an issue for us as it is for PVE people coming new to high lvl PVP. "High level PvP" = "Ranked." None of the companion stuff, or any of the other recent "enticements" to PvP have to do with Ranked. I'm not trying to be elitist either... All we need to do to learn the OP is to watch some YouTube clips of how to do it... PVP people play a constantly changing game and have the ability to adapt quickly... Most PVE content is the same each time, the mobs do exactly the same amount of damage and are controlled by a script that tells them to do x y z... It's a different type of game play, sure it takes skill and strategy, but it's still artificial... When you play PVP, every encounter is random and playing other people instead of a machine is more difficult because machines are predictable and people aren't or not as much... Once you have watched the YouTube clip of the OP it is pretty easy to do and is usually boring No, playing against a machine is not necessarily easier. Machines are predictable but they do not make mistakes. And re: your post's formatting, you might want to check your . key. Looks like every time you hit it, it types 3 .
Lhancelot Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 What do you mean with this "wow" ? "Woiw" that theygo into a lethal minefield, ready to get blown up, only to get a Companion ? "Wow" because Bioware didn't give them any other way to get those Companions ? "Wow" because you look down on Companions like some sort of trash, ready to be thrown away because it doesn't bother you at all ? - Which implies that you seem to believe that everything PvE is inferior to everything PvP, and that everything PvP is superior to everything PvE. I simply call it like I see it, and I see with my own eyes how pure PVE players DO enter warzones for companions and DO NOT try to win the matches. I don't blame them, I blame the system but there's something to be said for those PVE players who sit like slugs in the warzone not playing to win. To answer your ridiculous question, I said "wow" because the laziness of players in a game I find it amusing, and "wow" is the best way for me to express my surprise and dismay. Relax buddy. Stop drawing conclusions and creating a straw man argument out of what I write. I never said companions were trash, and I never said PVE-ers are inferior to me. Just stop it. All I can say to that is, wow.
Ottoattack Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Great idea huh? PvP players must run Dread Palace HM to get expertise hilt or barrel and is the only way to complete 2018 expertise These poor pve players that run nightmare mode dread fortress and are just so awesome at what they do.. until you throw them into the wolves and now they realize that there clueless on how to play there class. That's a awesome idea for to get pve players to re sub. Nothing says resub more than 50k damage/heals in a warzone... I believe that I should be paid for my idea. that's just as alienating and appalling idea for a pvp pub to do to. I'm sure the re subs will line up at the door to to run HM dread palace for the full expertise set. you can thank me later DEVs Not sure what this relates to exactly.. the WZ requirement for some companions? I can assure you PvPer hated equally if not more than PvEers, and has nothing to do with end game on any side. End game raiders do not need to PvP at all to get anything same goes for PvPers. I am not sure you are a dummy or a troll. On another note, someone highly skilled and decked in 208 gear can successfully run HM ops. Your 50K damage dps/healers cant even run a HM FP successfully. The issue is not gear, or content. It is skill.
DNGDangerous Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Great idea huh? PvP players must run Dread Palace HM to get expertise hilt or barrel and is the only way to complete 2018 expertise These poor pve players that run nightmare mode dread fortress and are just so awesome at what they do.. until you throw them into the wolves and now they realize that there clueless on how to play there class. That's a awesome idea for to get pve players to re sub. Nothing says resub more than 50k damage/heals in a warzone... I believe that I should be paid for my idea. that's just as alienating and appalling idea for a pvp pub to do to. I'm sure the re subs will line up at the door to to run HM dread palace for the full expertise set. you can thank me later DEVs To get companions, you only need to complete 20 warzones. Not ranked warzones. So putting "HM Dread Palace" as a requirement is not an equal comparison. It should be, complete 20 group finder ops/FP. And even though we pvpers can easilly beat at least SM ops, i will definatelly que for HM OPS (everytime i see a pve-r who purposelly tries to sabotauge my warzones- and in turn return the favor! (Even though I personally can beat them, I will purposelly sandbag).
Laoi Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Honestly if u can play high end pve ur going to be a really good pvper. The best tanks and healers come from the pve side lawl. u just won the clown of the year award with this post. congratulations
Joesixxpack Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Great idea huh? PvP players must run Dread Palace HM to get expertise hilt or barrel and is the only way to complete 2018 expertise These poor pve players that run nightmare mode dread fortress and are just so awesome at what they do.. until you throw them into the wolves and now they realize that there clueless on how to play there class. That's a awesome idea for to get pve players to re sub. Nothing says resub more than 50k damage/heals in a warzone... I believe that I should be paid for my idea. that's just as alienating and appalling idea for a pvp pub to do to. I'm sure the re subs will line up at the door to to run HM dread palace for the full expertise set. you can thank me later DEVs Running a PUG Op sounds more boring and torturous for me than the rando PVEers I'd be trying to punish.
hoaxburn Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Great idea huh? PvP players must run Dread Palace HM to get expertise hilt or barrel and is the only way to complete 2018 expertise These poor pve players that run nightmare mode dread fortress and are just so awesome at what they do.. until you throw them into the wolves and now they realize that there clueless on how to play there class. That's a awesome idea for to get pve players to re sub. Nothing says resub more than 50k damage/heals in a warzone... I believe that I should be paid for my idea. that's just as alienating and appalling idea for a pvp pub to do to. I'm sure the re subs will line up at the door to to run HM dread palace for the full expertise set. you can thank me later DEVs sure thing but all pve players must do pvp warzone for as long as a pvp is doing the operation.
branmakmuffin Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 I simply call it like I see it, and I see with my own eyes how pure PVE players DO enter warzones for companions and DO NOT try to win the matches. I don't blame them, I blame the system but there's something to be said for those PVE players who sit like slugs in the warzone not playing to win. So what? As you said, the system created the situation. Deal with it, just like PvEers have to deal with doing 20 WZs to get the companion if they want it.
Campaigner Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Lol, there must be a lot of loner PvErs that just can't stand the idea of fighting another player and potentially losing. This is why I play on a PvP server.
Yorioko Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 well a sidenote to this loony toons thread..... PVP gear IS actually superior to PVE gear, even in a PVE environment. Yes 208 rankings is less then 216-220-224 BUT the set bonuses more then makes up for this............
Icykill_ Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 You have yet to find a good PvE-only tank good at tanking in PvP? Did you buy that logic at Lidl Not in PVP... They usually only guard the healer and that's all they know how to do... A good PVP tank does a lot more than that
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