KumbayaGOD Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 hello elite pvpers i just play again with madness sorc and i think i do pretty decent with dps around average 2200-2850 dps number however when i saw in this forum people are hitting like 3k+ or even 4K+ , how you guys do it ? so this is scenario or posible things that maybe cross my mind 1. my ping is 220-300 ---> this i cant help if this affect my dps since i play in apac (sometime i feel a bit slower of abilities not as fast as i want when i press the button) 2. spamming force storm while have recklessness in cluster of people 3. dot spread using DF when people cluster 4. now this usually i try to dot spread as much but when i saw my team mate in trouble i tend to focus on that enemy so we can down it together , or i just dots the enemy and just move to dots another enemy to increase my numbers so basically dotting everyone first and then find the lowest heath enemy and focus on them 5. it is just a special game that people have so many tanks and healer so that why the number are high so i am sitting at 7.46 alacrity , crit around 30% and surge 60% rest i put on power augment i tried to switch to 9.8 alacrity but seems i am weaker or i am wrong and should try it with high alacrity again ? iif someone can give some feedback would appreciated for rotation wise usually i do this creeping terror - affliction - If many people cluster then DF wih recklessness if not i go with force leech - then force lighting proc demolish then forcelighting again ( i try to spam with since it procs dot crit unless i need to move or enemy low then lighting strike thanks for any input
helpmewin Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) 1. Learn how to backpedaling. This is an oldest sorc-shaman's method to survive. + 500 DPS 2. Never use ofheal/cleanse/bubble/pulls on ur teammates. The Gods gives UNLIMITED POWAAAAA and only for u. +500 DPS 3. Ofc the main - Never try to use LOS -NEVER! U are bubble princess. +500 DPS Tho it helps. U r welcome. Edited November 17, 2015 by helpmewin
Capt_Beers Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 You're wasting all your Recklessness charges. You should use DF when you have one charge of Reck left. If you use DF first it will consume all 3 charges. If you sue it when you have one charge it will still crit the same but you could have used it for a crit Force Leech and a channel of Lightning/Demolish and then a DF crit on multiple people.
Ascensionthree Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Just spam storm, that's what the pros do. Forget your dots, storm all day, baby! Edited November 17, 2015 by Ascensionthree
Chainedbrooklyn Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Place face on keyboard, roll from one side to the other, back and forth until target is dead. Dot spread.
KumbayaGOD Posted November 17, 2015 Author Posted November 17, 2015 You're wasting all your Recklessness charges. You should use DF when you have one charge of Reck left. If you use DF first it will consume all 3 charges. If you sue it when you have one charge it will still crit the same but you could have used it for a crit Force Leech and a channel of Lightning/Demolish and then a DF crit on multiple people. ok thanks for the input i wont use recklessness on DF , i take note on that thanks alot
KumbayaGOD Posted November 17, 2015 Author Posted November 17, 2015 You're wasting all your Recklessness charges. You should use DF when you have one charge of Reck left. If you use DF first it will consume all 3 charges. If you sue it when you have one charge it will still crit the same but you could have used it for a crit Force Leech and a channel of Lightning/Demolish and then a DF crit on multiple people. so what is your rotation ? can you share it with me ? is it creeping terror- affliction - recklesness- forceleech - forcelighting and then DF ?
helpmewin Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Oh i'm really sorry i forgot about the 4 rule 4. Always ask for buffs. Asking for DMG buff - coz u can't do 4k+ DPS. Why not? Very impressive for me. Edited November 17, 2015 by helpmewin
alexsamma Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Oh i'm really sorry i forgot about the 4 rule 4. Always ask for buffs. Asking for DMG buff - coz u can't do 4k+ DPS. Why not? Very impressive for me. AP Pt is pulling 4.5k+ dps, *** does a madness sorc pulling 4k dps even mean now?
helpmewin Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) AP Pt is pulling 4.5k+ dps, *** does a madness sorc pulling 4k dps even mean now? Dunno, i trying to play both but both is too boring for me. I found to fan play as sorc only as clicker and keyboard turning. So i don't care. P.S. Nerf Pyro. Edited November 17, 2015 by helpmewin
DNGDangerous Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 You need to clip all your channeled spells with an instant global ability. Thus the term globaling someone. Its actually easy to do- marauders and jugs can only do this with ravage since its their only channeled spell- but sorcs and sages have many! Basically you get within 4m of your target- popping force shroud followed by force speed is the fastest way to close into your target! 1) Once your in range- start a channeled ability. 2) Now heres the tricky party- the instant you see yor cast bar, you immediatelly hit Saber Strike. (I forgot the exact name- but its the first ability you get as a level 1). Since all main stats have been lumped into 1 "Mastery" stat, you now melee like many damages! Now- for the best dmg parse, i recommend clipping all your heal spells first followed by your god bubble! So once they are out of the rotation, your left with only the hardest hitting abilities to end your rotation! But its important to note- theres one dps ability that should never be clipped! PROTIP: when an enemy is about to cap a node or plant a bomb/objective- you should full cast your quick travel to fleet pass! This literally removes all enemies from your field of view! But the effect only happens when your cast bar hits 100%! (Probably a balance issue) If you dont have this spell- i greatly recommend buying it from the legacy unlocks menu!
alexsamma Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Dunno, i trying to play both but both is too boring for me. I found to fan play as sorc only as clicker and keyboard turning. So i don't care. Are any of the specs hard in this game?
helpmewin Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Are any of the specs hard in this game? Hard? no, mb how is hard to be usefull or viable. Anyway It depends on the preferences, for example i prefer to play melee. Some1 want to be bubble princess as sorc, dunno. There is a choice. Edited November 17, 2015 by helpmewin
Lalainnia Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 hello elite pvpers i just play again with madness sorc and i think i do pretty decent with dps around average 2200-2850 dps number however when i saw in this forum people are hitting like 3k+ or even 4K+ , how you guys do it ? so this is scenario or posible things that maybe cross my mind 1. my ping is 220-300 ---> this i cant help if this affect my dps since i play in apac (sometime i feel a bit slower of abilities not as fast as i want when i press the button) 2. spamming force storm while have recklessness in cluster of people 3. dot spread using DF when people cluster 4. now this usually i try to dot spread as much but when i saw my team mate in trouble i tend to focus on that enemy so we can down it together , or i just dots the enemy and just move to dots another enemy to increase my numbers so basically dotting everyone first and then find the lowest heath enemy and focus on them 5. it is just a special game that people have so many tanks and healer so that why the number are high so i am sitting at 7.46 alacrity , crit around 30% and surge 60% rest i put on power augment i tried to switch to 9.8 alacrity but seems i am weaker or i am wrong and should try it with high alacrity again ? iif someone can give some feedback would appreciated for rotation wise usually i do this creeping terror - affliction - If many people cluster then DF wih recklessness if not i go with force leech - then force lighting proc demolish then forcelighting again ( i try to spam with since it procs dot crit unless i need to move or enemy low then lighting strike thanks for any input Suggest asking in the sage/sorc forums only going to get trolled in pvp forums even tho you would honestly like to know how to do better with the spec u play.
KumbayaGOD Posted November 17, 2015 Author Posted November 17, 2015 just ignore the trolls , they are not helping just barking so they are useless , i am waiting for the people that really can give me advice
helpmewin Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) just ignore the trolls , they are not helping just barking so they are useless , i am waiting for the people that really can give me advice The main troll is u tho. U asking - how i need to do more DPS in DOT spread spec? Hm....very hard question. Mb u should spread on more ppls? Ur cap. Edited November 17, 2015 by helpmewin
KumbayaGOD Posted November 17, 2015 Author Posted November 17, 2015 The main troll is u tho. U asking - how i need to do more DPS on DOT spread spec? Hm....very hard question. Mb u should spread on more ppls? you are funny mate , where in the post asking more dot spread or dps? i am asking genuine questions , and if you could provide some insight on improvement i would welcome it i am asking people who get higher dps how they do it and how it can improve my game play no more no less thanks
alexsamma Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Hard? no, mb how is hard to be usefull or viable. Anyway It depends on the preferences, for example i prefer to play melee. Some1 want to be bubble princess as sorc, dunno. There is a choice and i tho its not depends on how is hardy spec/class is. I was trying to lvl sorcs, then i trying to cr8 a 60 and lvl up to 65, but always delete this class. Just too boring to play for me. Hatred/Serenity is super strong atm, carnage/combat is super strong in a good group, fury/concentration is super strong in solo arena or regs, both jugg specs are very strong in regs and decent/ in solo (can't comment on team ranked), concealment is decent in general and amazing in small scale fights, ap pt is broken (but that's not truly melee)..... the only place were dps sorc shines is solo queue, in regs they are simply there to pad healers numbers, and they're out classed in team ranked. The sorc hate is insane, the class was 2nd/3rd rate from 1.2 - 2.4, (dps sorcs started to shine in 4's); sorcs were buffed a lot between 2.4 -2.7 (dps) but they shared center stage with pyro pt, carnage mara, (possibly vengeance jugs), and were frankly strongly out classed by late 2.x madness sins -- 3.0 meta brought sorc healers up to par with operatives in team ranked and put them in the #1 spot in solo queue as healers, (they were easily surpassed by sins for #1 dps spot in solo queue in season 4). The only class that remotely has the right to hate on sorcs are mercs (well, maybe operative dps, but it's hard to take their tears serious when operative healing was bis from 1.2-3.0 and is still strong now), they shared the same underdog status from 1.2-2.0 (at least sorcs had lol bubblestun to keep them relevant) and arenas hurt them way more than it helped them, every other class has had it's glory days (pt is basically flavor of the game).
helpmewin Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) you are funny mate , where in the post asking more dot spread or dps? i am asking genuine questions , and if you could provide some insight on improvement i would welcome it i am asking people who get higher dps how they do it and how it can improve my game play no more no less thanks Ur are more funny. Hatred/Serenity is super strong atm, carnage/combat is super strong in a good group, fury/concentration is super strong in solo arena or regs, both jugg specs are very strong in regs and decent/ in solo (can't comment on team ranked), concealment is decent in general and amazing in small scale fights, ap pt is broken (but that's not truly melee)..... the only place were dps sorc shines is solo queue, in regs they are simply there to pad healers numbers, and they're out classed in team ranked. The sorc hate is insane, the class was 2nd/3rd rate from 1.2 - 2.4, (dps sorcs started to shine in 4's); sorcs were buffed a lot between 2.4 -2.7 (dps) but they shared center stage with pyro pt, carnage mara, (possibly vengeance jugs), and were frankly strongly out classed by late 2.x madness sins -- 3.0 meta brought sorc healers up to par with operatives in team ranked and put them in the #1 spot in solo queue as healers, (they were easily surpassed by sins for #1 dps spot in solo queue in season 4). The only class that remotely has the right to hate on sorcs are mercs (well, maybe operative dps, but it's hard to take their tears serious when operative healing was bis from 1.2-3.0 and is still strong now), they shared the same underdog status from 1.2-2.0 (at least sorcs had lol bubblestun to keep them relevant) and arenas hurt them way more than it helped them, every other class has had it's glory days (pt is basically flavor of the game). Who cares? Coz sorcs are so weak and others are so strong - i'm very impressed of ur wall of text. Buff sorcs meta the 4 rule. Edited November 17, 2015 by helpmewin
alexsamma Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Ur are more funny. Who cares? Coz sorcs are so weak and others are so strong - i'm very impressed of ur wall of text. Buff sorcs meta the 4 rule. Have you considered changing your name to HelpMeCry?
power-alex Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) 2.5-3kdsp on an average match is good enough. Bigger numbers can happen but only on stalemates - that is when both teams have 2 or 3 healers and a couple of tanks and they fighting in a clutch at the door on voidstar for example. Then you have your dotspread on cooldown on 4-7 people, and you have your force storm indefenetely on 4-7 people. Also those numbers don't mean anything. You cannot do 4k on a single target, because you're an aoe dot spec - your job is to put pressure on the other team. Secondly if oponent team is smart they will try to focus you and not let you free cast. There were a lot of matches where I did like 1.6kdps and 1.3k heals, because I was the focus target for the whole game, taking in more damage that I put out. You're wasting all your Recklessness charges. You should use DF when you have one charge of Reck left. If you use DF first it will consume all 3 charges. If you sue it when you have one charge it will still crit the same but you could have used it for a crit Force Leech and a channel of Lightning/Demolish and then a DF crit on multiple people. I don't agree with that. A crit is a crit. If there are 5 people in a clutch I better crit on at least 3 of them with recklesness and then proceed with force storm than do single target leach and channel before I use death field. My opening rotation on multiple targets is polarity, dot1, dot2, reclesness + unlimited power, death field - force storm - force storm force storm. Point can be made for leach before force storm for +2% damage from set bonus. On single target do death field first, so that all dots do increased damage. And instead of force storm do leach, lightning, demolish Edited November 17, 2015 by power-alex
helpmewin Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Have you considered changing your name to HelpMeCry? Re-read all ur posts in this theme. Ur welcome bro.
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