Jcargan Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 The companions are too powerful they beat out anything a well geared player can do if Influence is above 22. They have completely destroyed any chance of a multi player element in this MMO they need to be fixed or just take all the servers down and rerelease this as an offline game
Warrgames Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 mmo does not mean I need to be grouped ever sec that I am logged in...
Anaesha Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) The companions are too powerful they beat out anything a well geared player can do if Influence is above 22. They have completely destroyed any chance of a multi player element in this MMO they need to be fixed or just take all the servers down and rerelease this as an offline game As other have posted in now deleted topics. It isn't the COMPANIONS that are the PROBLEM them being OP is a SYMPTOM of how badly the Presence/Influence was handled in 4.0. However, In typical BW fashion they are choosing to treat the Symptom instead of addressing the main problem. It's like putting a bandaid on a bullet wound. Edited November 16, 2015 by Anaesha
Jcargan Posted November 16, 2015 Author Posted November 16, 2015 as things are you cant even get agroup becasue everyone wants to just solo with thier companion because its easier
Anaesha Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 as things are you cant even get agroup becasue everyone wants to just solo with thier companion because its easier Dude are you new? it's been that way for a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time.
Warrgames Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 as things are you cant even get agroup becasue everyone wants to just solo with thier companion because its easier The people that want to group well group whether they can solo it or not. The people that don't want to group will not group. They will just do other things.
Themanthatisi Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 mmo does not mean I need to be grouped ever sec that I am logged in... No, but for heroics, yes....
Anaesha Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 No, but for heroics, yes.... No not really. Heroics were always soloable even some of the H4 if you were well geared, knew what you were doing, and were careful. The only content that NEEDED groups were HM FPs (even some of them were soloable), NiMs, and operations
Warrgames Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) No, but for heroics, yes.... So heroic means group or does it mean more changeling missions? I've been solo at level H2 since launch... Edited November 16, 2015 by Warrgames
TUXs Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 The people that want to group well group whether they can solo it or not. The people that don't want to group will not group. They will just do other things. EXACTLY!!! And sadly, for some, that'll mean other games. I'm not saying healing companions aren't OP, I just think the way Bioware goes about things is detrimental to the game, the community and the games future. It's as if they intentionally try to sabotage their own product at times.
Jcargan Posted November 16, 2015 Author Posted November 16, 2015 Dude are you new? it's been that way for a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time. No they have not pre 4.0 you could still get groups for things just for group sake after 4.0 you just get laughed at and ridiculed for wanting to group just for sake of grouping. and Hmmm Account Creation Date: 12.28.11 doesnt look like im new
Anaesha Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 No they have not pre 4.0 you could still get groups for things just for group sake after 4.0 you just get laughed at and ridiculed for wanting to group just for sake of grouping. and Hmmm Account Creation Date: 12.28.11 doesnt look like im new YEAH if you were willing to stand around for HOURS spamming LFG [insert whatever it is here]
ZanyaCross Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 mmo does not mean I need to be grouped ever sec that I am logged in... At what point have you ever needed to be grouped to do anything other than a heroic, FP, or op?
_NovaBlast_ Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 The companions are too powerful they beat out anything a well geared player can do if Influence is above 22. They have completely destroyed any chance of a multi player element in this MMO they need to be fixed or just take all the servers down and rerelease this as an offline game Thanks op for proving the point i just made in another thread about the misconception of "MMO" Your stating things as fact when they are not They are based on your opinion only. Everything should be soloable. All content should also give the same rewards as group content regardless of difficulty becase fun is subjective . Another point of fact that yours is just an opinion is you see alot of posts from people who say **but but but its a MMO"" And think an "mmo" is a type of game ( like fps , moba , rpg etc" ) and that a "MMO" must include group content. They are simply wrong. MMO is simply the games environment. Nothing else. That is an actual indisputable fact. If more than one person can access the same content at the same time its a MMO regardless of what that content is. My OPINION is you are just as wrong as those people
Themanthatisi Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) No not really. Heroics were always soloable even some of the H4 if you were well geared, knew what you were doing, and were careful. The only content that NEEDED groups were HM FPs (even some of them were soloable), NiMs, and operations I do not disagree with you, but I also do expect that being properly geared to solo one will NOW be necessary again to some extent. Not necessarily OPS gear, but at least geared to my level. I have not needed to gear up for any of the new content, I play it all in 186/190 and it is still very easy. Granted, I do not try to solo the H2 Star Fortress, I do those with my wife who is also in 190/186 gear. Give me a reason to get 208, 216 and 220 and I will get it.... That should be part of the game. Edited November 16, 2015 by Themanthatisi
Jcargan Posted November 16, 2015 Author Posted November 16, 2015 Thanks op for proving the point i just made in another thread about the misconception of "MMO" I never said the content had to be not solo able for it to be but when no one will group simply because it looses thier companion It is no longer a multiplayer game. Some people like to group occasionally just for for group sake not because the content is too hard to take alone
TX_Angel Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 The people that want to group well group whether they can solo it or not. The people that don't want to group will not group. They will just do other things. ^ This... I've been asked a few times to do the Heroics in a group. I always decline, I prefer to go at my pace. If I can no longer do Heroics solo with a companion, then I just won't do them at all. You can't force people to do what they don't want to do.
Meraxos Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 as things are you cant even get agroup becasue everyone wants to just solo with thier companion because its easier If true, that certainly tells you something about the state of multi-player games these days. Games like SWTOR need to adapt to this or they will die. Trying to drive people back to the mentality that was prevalent 10 years ago won't work.
TX_Angel Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 I do not disagree with you, but I also do expect that being properly geared to solo one will NOW be necessary again to some extent. Not necessarily OPS gear, but at least geared to my level. I have not needed to gear up for any of the new content, I play it all in 186/190 and it is still very easy. Granted, I do not try to solo the H2 Star Fortress, I do those with my wife who is also in 190/186 gear. Give me a reason to get 208, 216 and 220 and I will get it.... That should be part of the game. ^ There is... soloing Heroic Star Fortress, there is even an achievement for it! Also, bolster is nice, but it doesn't really replace gear. Go into a HM FP in your 190 gear and then go in 208/216 gear with 208 augments, the difference is noticeable. Frankly, I'd like to see bolster removed from HM FP and OPS completely, I think SM ops have largely been harmed by having bolster because you get a lot of people who say "who needs gear, we have bolster!". Yet it isn't the same and the challenge level is miles apart between a bolstered group and a properly geared group.
Anaesha Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) If true, that certainly tells you something about the state of multi-player games these days. Games like SWTOR need to adapt to this or they will die. Trying to drive people back to the mentality that was prevalent 10 years ago won't work. ^truth. There is an old saying "adapt or die". This is true in nature as many animals went extinct because they couldn't adapt to the changing world around them and it's the same in the gaming world, games who do not adapt to the changing landscape do not survive.. Edited November 16, 2015 by Anaesha
XiamaraSimi Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) I never said the content had to be not solo able for it to be but when no one will group simply because it looses thier companion It is no longer a multiplayer game. Some people like to group occasionally just for for group sake not because the content is too hard to take alone I dont group because the majority of people i encounter are so stupid it makes me want to tear my hair out. Im playing a game, not a Babysitting sim... Edited November 16, 2015 by XiamaraSimi
Avalyssia Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 I dont group because the majority of people i encounter are so stupid it makes me want to tear my hair out. Im playing a game, not a Babysitting sim... Seriously.. I mean I'm not the greatest player myself but I decided to help someone out who was asking for it over general and what should have taken 5 mins in SF ended up taking 30 damn minutes because he kept getting lost after falling off ledges - I don't know I was getting frustrated after a bit. I was thinking to myself, why... why do I have general chat on? Why was I feeling so helpful an hour before karate starts?????
DamenX Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Your right op. But they r destroying a lot more than that. I
robertthebard Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 No, but for heroics, yes.... Pssst: Log into the game, check your achievements in your legacy for the Heroic SFs, note the achievement for soloing the SF w/out Alliance buffs, think about what that really means, and come back and let us know.
Roalmo Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 EXACTLY!!! And sadly, for some, that'll mean other games. I'm not saying healing companions aren't OP, I just think the way Bioware goes about things is detrimental to the game, the community and the games future. It's as if they intentionally try to sabotage their own product at times. Somebody get me a double Scotch... Can't believe it, I agree with Tux!
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