AuckaLukaum Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 So now that the companion terminal is working -- complete with half a dozen "are you sure you're sure" pop-ups, I'm still not entirely clear on one thing: If you use the terminal to recover a companion (in my case, for crafting purposes), will you be excluded from the portion of the story arc that later returns them, or is it only warning you half a dozen times that they won't be part of the official story until that point? I'd like to have a couple of them back for mission skills and crafting, but not if I'm going to miss out on story content later.
JWagner Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 So now that the companion terminal is working -- complete with half a dozen "are you sure you're sure" pop-ups, I'm still not entirely clear on one thing: If you use the terminal to recover a companion (in my case, for crafting purposes), will you be excluded from the portion of the story arc that later returns them, or is it only warning you half a dozen times that they won't be part of the official story until that point? I'd like to have a couple of them back for mission skills and crafting, but not if I'm going to miss out on story content later. My understanding is you will have them, but you will be unable to use them while in KOTFE story mode UNTIL they appear in the story and you recruit them.
Kaisernick Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 i have to admit the first thing after update was to get my good old pal Doc back but when i saw that warning i decided to wait for the same fear that i wouldn't get to see there story.
AuckaLukaum Posted October 28, 2015 Author Posted October 28, 2015 My understanding is you will have them, but you will be unable to use them while in KOTFE story mode UNTIL they appear in the story and you recruit them. This is what I'm thinking, and makes the most sense from a design standpoint, but it still seems like the warnings aren't entirely clear and I'm not sure I want to gamble on it. Especially with Mako.
Jnaathra Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 So now that the companion terminal is working -- complete with half a dozen "are you sure you're sure" pop-ups, I'm still not entirely clear on one thing: If you use the terminal to recover a companion (in my case, for crafting purposes), will you be excluded from the portion of the story arc that later returns them, or is it only warning you half a dozen times that they won't be part of the official story until that point? I'd like to have a couple of them back for mission skills and crafting, but not if I'm going to miss out on story content later. Why do you need them for crafting? All the bonuses to crafting were equalized across companions. Anything you pull from the terminal will come to you with a max influence rank of 10 and will have the same crafting bonus as anyone else from KOTFE that is rank 10. Rank 10 is also extremely easy to reach.
Drudenfusz Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 Why do you need them for crafting? All the bonuses to crafting were equalized across companions. Anything you pull from the terminal will come to you with a max influence rank of 10 and will have the same crafting bonus as anyone else from KOTFE that is rank 10. Rank 10 is also extremely easy to reach. Actually, you can boost them beyond 10 before starting the new story, so your point is not that valid.
Mannfred Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 I assume it will be something along the lines of how Nico worked.
Excise Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 My understanding is you will have them, but you will be unable to use them while in KOTFE story mode UNTIL they appear in the story and you recruit them. What does KOTFE story mode mean at this point, given that you can't get to the companion terminal until Chapter IX? Do you mean for when they release Chapter X and beyond? Also, does using the Terminal result in a lil' story to recruit them, a la Xalek, Talos, and Yuun?
AngFour Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) This was explained multiple times in the past few months. All it means is when you recruit the companion from the terminal the STORY doesn't recognize them as back, meaning that when you launch into the next chapters (IE: Pressing the PLAY button) you cannot use them because, according to the STORY, they are still missing. The summon button grays out on you ("this companion cannot be used due to story purposes"), much like if you wanted to use Theron Shan in a Star Fortress: you can't, because he's with Miot coordinating from the ship and giving you info. However, you CAN still use them for Heroics, crafting, and just sitting around looking pretty. When the companion OFFICIALLY returns, you are not denied that story. It just means that the STORY world caught up with your GAMEPLAY world, and they recognize that companion as a valid choice going forward in the story. Jebus, how difficult is this to understand? ETA: Before anyone asks, the reason there's so many disclaimers you have to accept is to prevent people from raging on the forums going, "WHY CAN'T I USE DOC IN THE STORY YET? I GOT HIM FROM THE TERMINAL!" They are stating numerous times what the deal is. Edited October 28, 2015 by AngFour
lpsmash Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 What does KOTFE story mode mean at this point, given that you can't get to the companion terminal until Chapter IX? Do you mean for when they release Chapter X and beyond? Also, does using the Terminal result in a lil' story to recruit them, a la Xalek, Talos, and Yuun? They might be part of the bigger story, like SCORPIO is for example.
Drudenfusz Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 Jebus, how difficult is this to understand? The game itself does a poor job explaining it, so sure you and I and others who read the forums and maybe secondary websites about this game know that, but don't claim that people who are not doing so and now wonder are doing something wrong. The game should explain those things without leaving the people then confused.
TheSeventhJedi Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 This was explained multiple times in the past few months. All it means is when you recruit the companion from the terminal the STORY doesn't recognize them as back, meaning that when you launch into the next chapters (IE: Pressing the PLAY button) you cannot use them because, according to the STORY, they are still missing. The summon button grays out on you ("this companion cannot be used due to story purposes"), much like if you wanted to use Theron Shan in a Star Fortress: you can't, because he's with Miot coordinating from the ship and giving you info. However, you CAN still use them for Heroics, crafting, and just sitting around looking pretty. When the companion OFFICIALLY returns, you are not denied that story. It just means that the STORY world caught up with your GAMEPLAY world, and they recognize that companion as a valid choice going forward in the story. Jebus, how difficult is this to understand? ETA: Before anyone asks, the reason there's so many disclaimers you have to accept is to prevent people from raging on the forums going, "WHY CAN'T I USE DOC IN THE STORY YET? I GOT HIM FROM THE TERMINAL!" They are stating numerous times what the deal is. Gold post verification? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm absolutely agreeing that the verbage is ambiguous.
AngFour Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 New clarification to add to my previous point: I recruited Vector from the terminal because of all 40 companions, he's my favorite. When Chapter X launches, I can't bring him along for the ride-not even to clear the yard trash in between me and my next objective. Because, most likely according to the story, he's somewhere in the universe as The Dawn Herald of Dawn Heralds (the job he rejected at the end of his companion quest to stay by your side) commanding the Killiks in a revolt against the Zakuul (I'm calling it now. You may quote me in a year or so when he actually comes back) and he wants to assist the Alliance with his gigantic ant army. That's my personal speculation for what's going on in his story. We're all about to be overrun by Zakuul, and BAM, a hoard of Killiks, led by a much less idealistic and a bit more hardened Vector, come and save the day. In the meantime, he's a set of pixels who refers to himself in the plural when he goes to attack my targeted mob, nothing more, nothing less. But it makes ME happy because he's my favorite and after three years of having him exclusively by my side, it's disconcerting to NOT have him.
AngFour Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) Gold post verification? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm absolutely agreeing that the verbage is ambiguous. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=832008 Hey folks! As mentioned before, he is a quick wrap-up of what was discussed on the livestream earlier this evening. First off, you can watch the archived version of the stream yourself, right here (part 1) (part 2). We opened by showing the intro to Chapter 3, along with playing through portions of it to highlight some key choices that can be made, new environments, etc. After that we took on some of the more commonly asked questions around Companions in Knights of the Fallen Empire. Here they are: What happens to my existing Companions in KotFE? When Fallen Empire launches, all of your existing Companions remain accessible to you outside of the story Chapters. In the KotFE story there is a specific cast of characters that is a part of that ongoing storyline. *snipped the rest* -eric Edited October 28, 2015 by AngFour
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