Anishor Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Has anyone else noticed that massacre seems to have issues with high alacrity ( ie > 40% ), especially in a high movement fight? I notice it a lot in voidstars when I chain a lot of them after another ( usually the end of my berserk chain ). It's like the animation can't quite keep up with both the alacrity and high amounts of lateral movement. I notice no such issue btw on my Sent with blade rush. I see every attack clearly animate and land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiveringPotato Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 It's that skill's animation in general, even on a low level Sentinel, Slash (vicious slash for sents, uses Massacre's animation) suffers the same issue. The sound and damage don't match up with the animation, basically, it was a bug in the last major patch and it hasn't been fixed yet. Fortunately, it doesn't seem to have an effect on gameplay other than being ugly to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zabrak Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 YES!!!! Specially noticed it getting really bad yesterday and it wasn't just the animation the glitchiness at 38% alacrity was making the ability completely misfire occasionally totally screwing up my rotations, hope they fix it... It was always iffy but it's making carnage almost unplayable for me atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwopicus Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 My favorite thing about carnage is when an ataru form attack lags and I hit someone while I'm stunned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunarAshes Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 It's actually bugged for mobs who use the same animation too, which makes me laugh and then shed a tear because it's still not fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusFTW Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Ye its bugged overall it kills it for me cause i love the massacre animation/look.. so been sticking to anni on impside xD only doing combat on repside which is weird cause when massacre works as intended i usually go the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluvi Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) Ye its bugged overall it kills it for me cause i love the massacre animation/look.. so been sticking to anni on impside xD only doing combat on repside which is weird cause when massacre works as intended i usually go the other way around. Why are you stacking 10%+ alacrity for pvp? I mean I realize you get 30% during berserk and 3% from the spec, but that means 7% from gear which is overkill. With 70% surge and close to 95% (105%) accuracy, I only have room for about 5% alacrity from gear. I don't believe more than that is beneficial, especially with diminishing returns. And yes, 95% (105%) accuracy is always worth getting, as every class has at least 5% defense chance, thus each % of accuracy increase is literally a 1% damage increase. 1% alacrity could be considered a 1% damage increase as well, but it suffers from diminishing returns. In properly itemized full Dark Reaver you should have around: ~71% surge (dropping one surge enhancement lower drops the % down to 68% or so, and that's too low, and we certainly don't want to be using surge augments, so this is ideal) 94.5% Accuracy (close enough without going over - after 95% chance to hit does not help on every target at all times anymore) ~2-3% alacrity without Ataru from gear, ~5% with it. If you have 7% from gear.. damn. You'd probably be at base accuracy and sub 70% surge. That's not optimal. Edited June 15, 2015 by Aluvi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzenaattori Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) Why are you stacking 10%+ alacrity for pvp? I mean I realize you get 30% during berserk and 3% from the spec, but that means 7% from gear which is overkill. With 70% surge and close to 95% (105%) accuracy, I only have room for about 5% alacrity from gear. I don't believe more than that is beneficial, especially with diminishing returns. And yes, 95% (105%) accuracy is always worth getting, as every class has at least 5% defense chance, thus each % of accuracy increase is literally a 1% damage increase. 1% alacrity could be considered a 1% damage increase as well, but it suffers from diminishing returns. In properly itemized full Dark Reaver you should have around: ~71% surge (dropping one surge enhancement lower drops the % down to 68% or so, and that's too low, and we certainly don't want to be using surge augments, so this is ideal) 94.5% Accuracy (close enough without going over - after 95% chance to hit does not help on every target at all times anymore) ~2-3% alacrity without Ataru from gear, ~5% with it. If you have 7% from gear.. damn. You'd probably be at base accuracy and sub 70% surge. That's not optimal. Why are you turning this into a debate about builds and stat compositions? Has anyone else noticed that massacre seems to have issues with high alacrity ( ie > 40% ), especially in a high movement fight? I notice it a lot in voidstars when I chain a lot of them after another ( usually the end of my berserk chain ). It's like the animation can't quite keep up with both the alacrity and high amounts of lateral movement. I notice no such issue btw on my Sent with blade rush. I see every attack clearly animate and land. The skill actually effects "Slash" not Blade rush. The animation of Slash and Massacre are exactly the same... which is probably the reason why its those two specifically... Blade rush isn't effected most likely because it's a different animation altogether. Edited June 15, 2015 by Bonzenaattori Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusFTW Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) Why are you stacking 10%+ alacrity for pvp? I mean I realize you get 30% during berserk and 3% from the spec, but that means 7% from gear which is overkill. With 70% surge and close to 95% (105%) accuracy, I only have room for about 5% alacrity from gear. I don't believe more than that is beneficial, especially with diminishing returns. And yes, 95% (105%) accuracy is always worth getting, as every class has at least 5% defense chance, thus each % of accuracy increase is literally a 1% damage increase. 1% alacrity could be considered a 1% damage increase as well, but it suffers from diminishing returns. In properly itemized full Dark Reaver you should have around: ~71% surge (dropping one surge enhancement lower drops the % down to 68% or so, and that's too low, and we certainly don't want to be using surge augments, so this is ideal) 94.5% Accuracy (close enough without going over - after 95% chance to hit does not help on every target at all times anymore) ~2-3% alacrity without Ataru from gear, ~5% with it. If you have 7% from gear.. damn. You'd probably be at base accuracy and sub 70% surge. That's not optimal. Maybe i should have clarified. I don't run any alacrity i meant the massacre animation is bugged overall at any lvl of alacrity including 0. Same on pts, the animation is out of sync same with slash and i know snipers had a similar problem for one of there ability's though not tested that on pts. Edited June 16, 2015 by AngusFTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynamiCtagez Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) Both Massacre and Slash animations are currently bugged. For quite a while now actually: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=8251362#post8251362 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=811265 Edited June 16, 2015 by DynamiCtagez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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