Icykill_ Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 30 sec Mara Predation FTW How many people have pulled their Maras or Sents out of Moth balls... So many Appearing in WZs and wreaking people who aren't used to playing against them... It's funny and sad... Give it a week and the "predation is OP" threads will start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giorgo Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I can use it more often whithout ardor so i dont see where exactly your problem is. I will not comment the "wreaking people who aren't used to playing against them" part lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icykill_ Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 I can use it more often whithout ardor so i dont see where exactly your problem is. I will not comment the "wreaking people who aren't used to playing against them" part lol. You misunderstand... I don't have an issue with... I'm enjoying the free predation/transcendence, without having to worry about it as a resource... And yes some people are getting wreaked at the moment "only"... I expect that will change once they realise what the changes are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmbuddah Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Marauders are fine now, the problem is, they buffed them to the point where they are good again, and completely and utterly ignored the other two underpeforming classes, commando / GS. Now when faced with a marauder, you have almost zero chance to win as a commando or GS since they have so much knockback / cc / root immunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icykill_ Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 Marauders are fine now, the problem is, they buffed them to the point where they are good again, and completely and utterly ignored the other two underpeforming classes, commando / GS. Now when faced with a marauder, you have almost zero chance to win as a commando or GS since they have so much knockback / cc / root immunity. This is sort of true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jauvtus Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Marauders are fine now, the problem is, they buffed them to the point where they are good again, and completely and utterly ignored the other two underpeforming classes, commando / GS. Now when faced with a marauder, you have almost zero chance to win as a commando or GS since they have so much knockback / cc / root immunity. We need utility so that Transendence/Predation breaks roots (and if we take Ardor/Relentless, we can do it only every 30s), cc and knockback immunity applies for only 1 discipline! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusFTW Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Don't even take it for reg play. Overrated utility ;_________; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giorgo Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) Marauders are fine now, the problem is, they buffed them to the point where they are good again, and completely and utterly ignored the other two underpeforming classes, commando / GS. Now when faced with a marauder, you have almost zero chance to win as a commando or GS since they have so much knockback / cc / root immunity. If e-net is up,mando wins.Every time.If not,then chances favour mara but its not one sided game. But as gs,if you have problems killing a mara,you need to l2p m8,sorry. Edited May 30, 2015 by giorgo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmbuddah Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) If e-net is up,mando wins.Every time.If not,then chances favour mara but its not one sided game. But as gs,if you have problems killing a mara,you need to l2p m8,sorry. It is actually pretty one sided, all they have to use is their ability to resist 99% damage, and then the ball is back in maras court pretty much 80 percent of the time, that is not a level playing field at all. Gunslinger is in a better place than commando, which is why it is on , I wouldnt say level ground, but it has a better chance than mando against all classes. And seriously, everyone acts like Enet is the end all win all ability for commandos. It is on a 1.5 minute cooldown, so sure, every 1.5 minutes they have a good attack, which most classes can completely negate now. Edited May 30, 2015 by mmmbuddah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmbuddah Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 We need utility so that Transendence/Predation breaks roots (and if we take Ardor/Relentless, we can do it only every 30s), cc and knockback immunity applies for only 1 discipline! Before mara gets ANY more attention , the other classes need to be looked at. Mara has gotten the most attnetion out of all classes since 3.0 hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giorgo Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Cry some more,you still need to l2p tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhancelot Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Before mara gets ANY more attention , the other classes need to be looked at. Mara has gotten the most attnetion out of all classes since 3.0 hit. I feel your pain man. I like commando heals it's totally different style compared to the other healers... Ops and sorcs have tons of mobility and escape mechanisms whereas on the commando I stay turret-like to heal most of the time with energy shield being the backbone ability for survival. You will not get sympathy here though, in a marauder thread. I suggest you bump the threads that are on the topic of improving the commando/mercenary, like my thread "Devs take the merc Challenge". That's the only way to get anything done. Obviously the squeeky wheel gets the oil. Marauders needed help, they FINALLY got it. I won't hate on them for that. I just want the Devs to get other classes on par with the rest in PVP. Then we will have some fun in the warzones again, including ranked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jauvtus Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Marauders needed help, they FINALLY got it. I won't hate on them for that. I just want the Devs to get other classes on par with the rest in PVP. This. Some merc act like maras are the reason they suck. We aren't. We got buffs we never asked for. Personally I agree with you guys most of the time, just don't blame us. Pls hate devs, not us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jauvtus Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Before mara gets ANY more attention , the other classes need to be looked at. Mara has gotten the most attnetion out of all classes since 3.0 hit. I will stop answering for your posts after this. You never give any strong answer, all of your words are about hatred towards mara, you don't care about any other AC, not even your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmob Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 And yes some people are getting wreaked at the moment I think the word you're going for is wrecked (or rekt). wreak havoc is probably your inspiration, but wreak just means "cause." I haven't noticed anything yet, but that was the one change I did see on the tentative patch notes that made me think...hmm...if that's on the same cd as HO, my merc is in a lot of trouble (no roots). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmbuddah Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Cry some more,you still need to l2p tho. And you need to learn to be mature. Tyvm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmbuddah Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I will stop answering for your posts after this. You never give any strong answer, all of your words are about hatred towards mara, you don't care about any other AC, not even your own. How is wanting equal attention given toward the other underperforming classes hating on marauders? It is not. People constantly saying that marauders are the only class that need attention is just ridiculous. They have gotten more buffs / attention than ANY other class out there since 3.0, yet you guys want more more more, how about saying "thanks BW for paying attention to our class and helping us out, but dont forget about the other classes!", how about saying that for a change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmbuddah Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) I feel your pain man. I like commando heals it's totally different style compared to the other healers... Ops and sorcs have tons of mobility and escape mechanisms whereas on the commando I stay turret-like to heal most of the time with energy shield being the backbone ability for survival. You will not get sympathy here though, in a marauder thread. I suggest you bump the threads that are on the topic of improving the commando/mercenary, like my thread "Devs take the merc Challenge". That's the only way to get anything done. Obviously the squeeky wheel gets the oil. Marauders needed help, they FINALLY got it. I won't hate on them for that. I just want the Devs to get other classes on par with the rest in PVP. Then we will have some fun in the warzones again, including ranked. Marauders have gotten the most help out of all the classes since 3.0, yes they needed help, and I even said they needed help after 3.0, but as of now, the class is in a much better position, and should stop demanding more and more buffs when the other classes need to be looked into. When I say that, I do not just mean commando and GS, they also need to look at Tactics / AP VG / PT, and all specs of Shadow / Assassin, because those two are still pretty damned ridiculous. Edited May 30, 2015 by mmmbuddah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayGonJinn Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) It is actually pretty one sided, all they have to use is their ability to resist 99% damage, and then the ball is back in maras court pretty much 80 percent of the time, that is not a level playing field at all. Gunslinger is in a better place than commando, which is why it is on , I wouldnt say level ground, but it has a better chance than mando against all classes. And seriously, everyone acts like Enet is the end all win all ability for commandos. It is on a 1.5 minute cooldown, so sure, every 1.5 minutes they have a good attack, which most classes can completely negate now. In 3.3 They should give commandos a utility that allows hammer shot & explosive round to lower the cd of E-net by 3 seconds and the effect can't happen more than once every 1.5 secs They should also add a 12 charge 1% heal of maximum health when taking damage to Suit FOE utility Edited May 30, 2015 by RayGonJinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmob Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 In 3.3 They should give commandos a utility that allows hammer shot & explosive round to lower the cd of E-net by 3 seconds and the effect can't happen more than once every 1.5 secs They should also add a 12 charge 1% heal of maximum health when taking damage to Suit FOE utility enet is great for 1v1 defense/escape and to use offensively (usually on sorcs) to coincide with your team's burst. but as a survivability tool, it's very limited (being single target). putting on root on the aoe punt would be a more realistic dcd tweak that wouldn't threaten to make their offensive capabilities too crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayGonJinn Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 enet is great for 1v1 defense/escape and to use offensively (usually on sorcs) to coincide with your team's burst. but as a survivability tool, it's very limited (being single target). putting on root on the aoe punt would be a more realistic dcd tweak that wouldn't threaten to make their offensive capabilities too crazy. I'm not gonna argue with ya you more than likely play the class more than me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedImage Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) Fox, I just wanted to stop in and say thanks for making that correction mate. I was going crazy here reading about how everyone was getting "wreaked" lol. Ahhhhh, I feel better. Thanks again. (I got to your post and skipped immediately to this haha.) Edited May 30, 2015 by WickedImage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teclado Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I dusted mine off (sent and mara). I have tried out all three specs. Combat/Carnage are still my overall favorite, but anni/watch is improved in pvp IMO. The biggest difference maker is the utility for predation/transcendence on a 30 sec cooldown. It gives the class the mobility on demand that it has been sorely lacking IMO. I think my jug/guard are still better overall, but at least it is a bit closer now. I don't get nearly as frustrated as I did not too long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lalainnia Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 The predation change is nice and helpful especially when it comes to using fury stacks on berserk, but the white bar resolve change is actually doing more for melee as a whole specially maras and sents. There really won't be any QQ about maras Hatred and AP still dominate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewlmenow Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Marauders have gotten the most help out of all the classes since 3.0, yes they needed help, and I even said they needed help after 3.0, but as of now, the class is in a much better position, and should stop demanding more and more buffs when the other classes need to be looked into. When I say that, I do not just mean commando and GS, they also need to look at Tactics / AP VG / PT, and all specs of Shadow / Assassin, because those two are still pretty damned ridiculous. When you break a class so bad that none of the disciplines are viable in any form of content other than leveling, then that class needs to be fixed before anything else. You should blame the debs that it took this long to make it so sents have something they're viable in, and they're still not nearly as good as any of the ranged ACs are in PVE or Shadow/Vanguard are in PVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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