Preferred credit cap and inflation of GTN.

[CKNORTH]

With the current credit limit to preferred, I am curious as to the scale of it currently with GTN prices. For now it's kind of pointless to buy an escro on the GTN for 600k-900k when preferred would need a second escro to perchase it....

 

Most of any unlock or legacy unlock starts at 250k and escalates into the millions quite rapidly. I realize when the CC store was first implemented it had a purpose. But with heavy GTN inflated prices maybe it's time to revamp the current limit? It does prove to make a credit cap extremely pointless when the primary reason to sell items on the GTN is currently pointless for the people who have at least supported the game one way or another. Just an idea.

[Rankyn]

Sucks to not be a subscriber.

[CKNORTH]

Sucks to not be a subscriber.

 

Yeah I am a subscriber tho :-) but way I see it that their is less credits to subscribers because no one but subscribers can afford there escro unlocks

[Exosasa]

Yeah I am a subscriber tho :-) but way I see it that their is less credits to subscribers because no one but subscribers can afford there escro unlocks

 

Only morons sell escrow above 250k.

[CKNORTH]

Only morons sell escrow above 250k.

 

Ha! They are pretty expensive on the Ebon Hawk, but at least the ones on Harbringer are in the 350k range..

[Spikanor]

i agree with the first post.

 

sub players get each month 500 or 600 cc most time's maybe there not need things from the central market.

and sell then on the GTN to make credits from it but.

 

if a Preferred status player wane buy central market items on the GTN there pay much more then the credit limit there have.

that there is a credit limit for free to play players is good against credit sellers but there never gone use real money to become a preferred status player to make more credits.

 

preferred players and sub players support both the game with real money only there use it on a different way but its still the same thing.

[DarthCasus]

Sucks to not be a subscriber.

 

Tsk tsk, such a pointless statement when it's a known fact. Certainly a bad business choice since it's likely to scare off potential RETURNING customers.

[Zohkar]

Ha! They are pretty expensive on the Ebon Hawk, but at least the ones on Harbringer are in the 350k range..

 

Have you noticed plain and simply that prices in general on Ebon Hawk have gotten stupid lately. One of my guild mates went to Harbinger and bought stuff for around 60% less of what it sells on our server and made over 250 million credits so far.

[CKNORTH]

Have you noticed plain and simply that prices in general on Ebon Hawk have gotten stupid lately. One of my guild mates went to Harbinger and bought stuff for around 60% less of what it sells on our server and made over 250 million credits so far.

 

Oh I know! To add to this, it kinda makes no sense that people are trying to sell OP's and WZ passes for 1m+ even with capped credits at 350k + a 600k escro preferred players still can't afford it. What is the point of that? not like subscribers need those passes why on earth try to sell them for that much??

[Spikanor]

Have you noticed plain and simply that prices in general on Ebon Hawk have gotten stupid lately. One of my guild mates went to Harbinger and bought stuff for around 60% less of what it sells on our server and made over 250 million credits so far.

 

its not only with that its with all central market items on the GTN there are to over price for a preferred player.

 

sub players and preferred players are doing 1 thing the same what free to play players not do and that is paying the company with real money.

and the game needs both off then hard.

 

give the preferred status players what more little freedom and you get more off then.

like: remove the credit limit,give then what more support options for help with problems, credit mail options,use all purple items, and the chat full use,and access to the forum that there can make topic's and post on other topic's.

then you have still a balance with sub status players and preferred status players.

still sub players get more things then preferred status players but the preferred status player can also

[PavSalco]

Oh I know! To add to this, it kinda makes no sense that people are trying to sell OP's and WZ passes for 1m+ even with capped credits at 350k + a 600k escro preferred players still can't afford it. What is the point of that? not like subscribers need those passes why on earth try to sell them for that much??

Subs need those passes when they are planning to unsub. That's why the price increases, I never buy ops pass above 380k+, but I can assure you that some people spend easily over 450k for it.

[XiamaraSimi]

Credit cap is one of the big things that get people to sub. Remiving it would be shooting themselves in the foot.

 

If the credit cap is that important to you, but $15 a month is too much for you, better check your priorities... Even kids can mow lawns and deliver newspapers for extra cash after all. (And every grocery store and gas staion i go to sells prepaid mastercards that can be used for the "but i dont have a credit card" set)

[Spikanor]

Credit cap is one of the big things that get people to sub.

or its the one thing that let then quit the game fast and thats not good for the game if players quit so fast.

 

If the credit cap is that important to you, but $15 a month is too much for you, better check your priorities...

credit cap is important for all type of players.

for free to play players we all can understand there is a credit cap for that point i agree with.

but for preferred players i agree not with since there support the game also on the same way that sub players do but only on a different way then sup.

 

as example:

in my country you have 2 type mobile phone's.

1 type off mobile phone's you can buy is with a subscription on it you pay the same like in the game each month a type off money and you get benefits for that you pay each month.

 

second type off mobile phone's is that you buy in the store a prepaid card that you most add on you mobile phone to call somebody.

 

the both type of way's off it has the same end way.

the money go's to the mobile company's if you pay for sub or with prepaid card its and the same way.

 

now back to the game.

preferred status players use Cartel Coins to get there stuff that sub status players all have with there status.

but a sub players and preferred players end on the same way and that is that the money go's to the company from the game.

and a company cant force you to pay for a subscription its the players choose if he wane or not.

and to add credit cap for preferred status players is more a force that you have to buy a subscription in my eye's.

 

and then its more fun for all type off players for sup and preferred.

 

and here is also something that maybe most off have not think about it.

if a player not play much since he got no time for it then for what he most buy a subscription on a game he cant play much since he not got plenty of time for it.

then is a preferred status better for him then buy a subscription.

[Ratajack]

its not only with that its with all central market items on the GTN there are to over price for a preferred player.

 

sub players and preferred players are doing 1 thing the same what free to play players not do and that is paying the company with real money.

and the game needs both off then hard.

 

give the preferred status players what more little freedom and you get more off then.

like: remove the credit limit,give then what more support options for help with problems, credit mail options,use all purple items, and the chat full use,and access to the forum that there can make topic's and post on other topic's.]

then you have still a balance with sub status players and preferred status players.

still sub players get more things then preferred status players but the preferred status player can also

 

 

ITT

 

"Give me the benefits of subbing without making me pay to sub."

[Heat-Wave]

ITT

 

"Give me the benefits of subbing without making me pay to sub."

 

^ Yea, that is really what it is...

[Ratajack]

 

 

credit cap is important for all type of players.

for free to play players we all can understand there is a credit cap for that point i agree with.

but for preferred players i agree not with since there support the game also on the same way that sub players do but only on a different way then sup.

 

 

 

 

You DO realize that $5 is all that needs to be spent in order to become a preferred player? So, let me spend just $5 in the CC and have no credit cap?

 

Preferred players MAY have been subcribers at one point, but they are NO LONGER subscribers. This means that they may not even be paying a single cent to support the game once they become subscribers.

 

I may be wrong, but I highly doubt that most of the preferred players are purchasing CC's or supporting the game with a cash outlay of any type. I would bet that most preferred players will purchase their CM items on GTH. This is only my opinion, but it is my opinion that a player who will not spend $15 a month to subscribe and support the game is unlikely to purchase CC's or otherwise support the game with a outlay of their own cash.

 

Some preferred players will claim that they INDIRECTLY support the game since purchasing items off the GTN provides incentive for OTHERS to spend the cash to buy items from the CM to sell on the GTN.

 

 

 

 

TLDR: If you want the benefits of being a subscriber, including having no credit cap, then spend the $15 to subscribe.

[Anaesha]

I wouldn't support completely removing the cred cap for prefs but maybe altering it. 350K isn't a huge difference from a f2p at 200k I'd say at the very least raise the pref cap to maybe 500K Edited March 8, 2015 by Anaesha

[branmakmuffin]

Only morons sell escrow above 250k.

Only morons fail to realize that many people buy stuff when they are subscribers to have ready for when they go Preferred.

 

I wouldn't support completely removing the cred cap for prefs but maybe altering it. 350K isn't a huge difference from a f2p at 200k I'd say at the very least raise the pref cap to maybe 500K

If it were 500k, you'd say it should be 750k. If it were 750k, you'd say it should be 1 mil.

 

Whatever it is set at, you will say it's not quite high enough. That's how people are.

Edited March 8, 2015 by branmakmuffin

[Anaesha]

Only morons fail to realize that many people buy stuff when they are subscribers to have ready for when they go Preferred.

 

 

If it were 500k, you'd say it should be 750k. If it were 750k, you'd say it should be 1 mil.

 

Whatever it is set at, you will say it's not quite high enough. That's how people are.

 

I'm so glad you think you know ME and how MY mind works so well you think you can tell me what I will or won't say or do.

 

500K or more then enough for a pref and only a moron assumes that every f2p or pref is a former sub who has already bought the unlocks they needed before terminating their subs.

[branmakmuffin]

I'm so glad you think you know ME and how MY mind works so well you think you can tell me what I will or won't say or do.

If my assumption that you are human is incorrect, please state your species.

 

500K or more then enough for a pref and only a moron assumes that every f2p or pref is a former sub who has already bought the unlocks they needed before terminating their subs.

Good thing no one said every single Preferred player is a former sub (obviously it is not possible to be F2P and be a former sub).

 

This thread is just another "I want to go Preferred but keep the benefits of being a sub," as if the Preferred limitations are somehow unfair.

Edited March 8, 2015 by branmakmuffin

[Ratajack]

I'm so glad you think you know ME and how MY mind works so well you think you can tell me what I will or won't say or do.

 

500K or more then enough for a pref and only a moron assumes that every f2p or pref is a former sub who has already bought the unlocks they needed before terminating their subs.

 

You've already proven that the current credit cap is too low for you with your request that it be raised.

 

Why should I or anyone else expect that players would be satisfied even if they raised the credit cap?

 

All one has to do is to read these forums to see how the mice act anytime BW gives them a cookie.

[cloudshear]

I agree with the op. The game has been out for a while now and prices in game have inflated since launch.

A cost of living type increase would be logical for preferred users only. 350k is worth less now then 2 years ago.

I'd say raise it to 700k.

 

There are a lot of preferred player who spend more then the $15 a month sub. A lot of people just have a different opinion on what is valuable to them. I would hazard a guess that is why there are several different pricing models for most F2P games now and why they have become so dominant in the mmo market.

 

 

I would also hazard to say that a lot of mmo games would have failed if not for F2P players coming to the rescue.

I believe the industry calls them whales. Players who never sub but spend hundreds of dollars a month on a game.

 

Maybe as a compromise bioware could have a unlock for preferred players that would raise them to 700k for say $15. A one time unlock of course.

[Jrr_hypernova]

I agree with the op. The game has been out for a while now and prices in game have inflated since launch.

A cost of living type increase would be logical for preferred users only. 350k is worth less now then 2 years ago.

I'd say raise it to 700k.

 

There are a lot of preferred player who spend more then the $15 a month sub. A lot of people just have a different opinion on what is valuable to them. I would hazard a guess that is why there are several different pricing models for most F2P games now and why they have become so dominant in the mmo market.

 

 

I would also hazard to say that a lot of mmo games would have failed if not for F2P players coming to the rescue.

I believe the industry calls them whales. Players who never sub but spend hundreds of dollars a month on a game.

 

Maybe as a compromise bioware could have a unlock for preferred players that would raise them to 700k for say $15. A one time unlock of course.

 

 

fun fact according to ea and knockoff bioware all the whales and other people who buy any substantial amount from the cash shop have a sub. i also fail to see how a one time unlock would make more sense than the existing escrow system.

[Anaesha]

Although in TOR it seems the majority of players who purchase CCs are Subs in MOST F2P MMOs there are people like he mentions who will literally drop between 200 and 400 dollars per month on the games payed currency. Granted most of the MMOs that this happens in are ones with P2W heavy cash shops which TORs is anything but.

[DocDAM]

I support OP. In fact, I have often thought about posting the same.

 

Credit caps were set when items were selling for 1/2 to 1/10th of what they sell for now. So if BW chose the Cap limits based on a certain ratio, they have gotten out of whack. I'd hate to be a new player right now.

 

But as a Pref who just re-subbed with the Story Pack, yes, I can see how low caps + high inflation = motivation to re-sub Problem is, many newer players may instead bail.