Bedus Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) As in title, tday got 4 arena fails 3 vs 4 , not mention evemy team got healer. Remove this fail and make a separate quere for arena, i dont want play arena fail with randoms and i dont want to play arena at all Bioware u cant even make this viable for random quere so dont force ppl to play this utter fail Edited February 25, 2015 by Bedus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmbuddah Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 As in title, tday got 4 arena fails 3 vs 4 , not mention evemy team got healer. Remove this fail and make a separate quere for arena, i dont want play arena fail with randoms and i dont want to play arena at all Bioware u cant even make this viable for random quere so dont force ppl to play this utter failArena should be removed from unranked period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) Agreed. 90%+ of time it just a faceroll for one side. Either because of premade vs pug or because of healer vs 4 dps... Edited February 25, 2015 by cs_zoltan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teclado Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) I actually like arenas...*cue the "then go play ranked" comments* Sure, the lack of matchmaking in unranked can get frustrating, although most people in regular warzone arenas don't really seem to know what they are doing, so if you have half a clue, it's typically quite possible to overcome e.g. 2 heals + 2dps vs 4 dps. In fact, most healers are not all that great, so I find that the 2 heals team will lose most of the time. Edited February 25, 2015 by teclado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sithBracer Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) Agreed. 90%+ of time it just a faceroll for one side. Either because of premade vs pug or because of healer vs 4 dps... I had tank (who actually switched guard), healer, 2 dps vs 4 dps a few times already (well one of the times, one of the dps left and was replaced with a healer). I just put a target and a saber and asked the people to keep switching between the too as soon as the tank switched guard. It worked surprisingly well. And if premades are good, they will faceroll in wzs as well. EDIT-that first part wasn't really meant to imply anything, just wanted to share an experience I had recently, as I agree that having a healer on one side is a HUGE advantage. Edited February 25, 2015 by sithBracer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saikochoro Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) I like arenas in normal queue. Sometimes it's nice to have a deathmatch instead of objective based warzone. I like a good mix. As far as premades face rolling reg arenas: they would probably faceroll a reg warzone as well. 4 good players can carry a team especially if they happen to get good pugs for the other half of their team. The solution to premades in reg arenas is the same as the solution to premades in reg warzones: get some friends and form your own premade. I do however agree that the matchmaking in it is stupid. I've literally had a reg arena that was 4 tanks versus 4 healers. I don't even know how that happened. Needless to say nobody died. You'd think the queue could have split them up evenly. Even then nobody would die. There had to have been at least 4 DPS queueing at the same time the queue could have drawn from. Unless they were premades, but I don't know why you'd premade with 4 healers unless you just want to troll cross heal all day. Edited February 25, 2015 by Saikochoro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedus Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 I like arenas in normal queue. Sometimes it's nice to have a deathmatch instead of objective based warzone. I like a good mix. As far as premades face rolling reg arenas: they would probably faceroll a reg warzone as well. 4 good players can carry a team especially if they happen to get good pugs for the other half of their team. The solution to premades in reg arenas is the same as the solution to premades in reg warzones: get some friends and form your own premade. I do however agree that the matchmaking in it is stupid. I've literally had a reg arena that was 4 tanks versus 4 healers. I don't even know how that happened. Needless to say nobody died. You'd think the queue could have split them up evenly. Even then nobody would die. There had to have been at least 4 DPS queueing at the same time the queue could have drawn from. Unless they were premades, but I don't know why you'd premade with 4 healers unless you just want to troll cross heal all day. Its RANDOM, u know, i wont w8 for my mates to play some pvp cos Biofail cant do a simple thing in right way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallucigenocide Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) i'm all for removing arenas from regs. it doesn't really work for pugs. and the matchmaking just makes this an even bigger problem. as a result you see loads of people just exiting as soon as they zone into one myself included. oh and dont forget some classes aren't even viable for this format so if you get any of those you're screwed. fun fun. Edited February 25, 2015 by hallucigenocide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimerako Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I don't lose arenas very often or have a bad experience most times I just hate that game play style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thefriar Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Why would they remove this? 1) It's Random - not like its every game 2) It's over faster than a regular warzone. You can do three arenas in the time it takes to do one decent Voidstar 3) It doesn't count. Even if you get facerolled and its bugged, it doesn't mean anything. Collect your coms and move on 4) PUGS get facerolled in regular warzones too VS good premades, just takes longer. I would really prefer to face a strong permade in an areana than in a long Huttball or Voidstar. Pick your battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikSunrider Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 As in title, tday got 4 arena fails 3 vs 4 , not mention evemy team got healer. Remove this fail and make a separate quere for arena, i dont want play arena fail with randoms and i dont want to play arena at all Bioware u cant even make this viable for random quere so dont force ppl to play this utter fail I'd be inclined to take you more seriously if you spelled better, also: [*] Arenas end very fast [*] You don't have a rating to worry about [*] There IS a separate queue for ranked arenas, the normal arenas are just random. [*] I have one 2v4 arenas, even if the other side had a healer. (note, I was the one with two players) Treat every WZ like a fun challenge, you'll go more places. You like the Rebels? (Old Rebels, not that new TV cr@p) They always went up against wierd odds, look at Yavin and Endor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallucigenocide Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Why would they remove this? 1) It's Random - not like its every game 2) It's over faster than a regular warzone. You can do three arenas in the time it takes to do one decent Voidstar 3) It doesn't count. Even if you get facerolled and its bugged, it doesn't mean anything. Collect your coms and move on 4) PUGS get facerolled in regular warzones too VS good premades, just takes longer. I would really prefer to face a strong permade in an areana than in a long Huttball or Voidstar. Pick your battles. 1. randomness has nothing to do with it 1 is objective based the other is death match.. not even the same thing 2. see 1 3. at some point its not about comms anymore then you just do it because it's fun( hence why some of us want to chose where we have our fun) 4. time is not really an issue for those of us that prefer objective based PvP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thefriar Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 1. randomness has nothing to do with it 1 is objective based the other is death match.. not even the same thing 2. see 1 3. at some point its not about comms anymore then you just do it because it's fun( hence why some of us want to chose where we have our fun) 4. time is not really an issue for those of us that prefer objective based PvP 1. So you want it to be like WOW. Que for an Arena or Que for a Warzone. I guess that is not unreasonable except many of us actually DO like the randomness of something different every few games. 4. Maybe you should group with all these "like minded people" who like only Objective Based Play. You will rarely get rolled in a random deathmatch in a premade group. Even if you don't like deathmatches and it puts you out to play them you will 90% of the time be facing a PUG in Regs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomiSotto Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Please, do not! There is no penalty for leaving. And how are you going to prep for ranked seeing that Off-season is ow cancelled? I like playing the Arenas, I like playing 8x8s, I like it all. I have seen the weirdest results with the weirdest combinations. Plus, tbh, it really highlights what you need to work on your toon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallucigenocide Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 1. So you want it to be like WOW. Que for an Arena or Que for a Warzone. I guess that is not unreasonable except many of us actually DO like the randomness of something different every few games. 4. Maybe you should group with all these "like minded people" who like only Objective Based Play. You will rarely get rolled in a random deathmatch in a premade group. Even if you don't like deathmatches and it puts you out to play them you will 90% of the time be facing a PUG in Regs. yes pretty much.. for people that dont care what type they end up in they could keep this queue and also add 1 for each type. i knw people say that there arent enough players for this but im not convinced.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Bob- Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I dont mind reg arenas at all, if im in with a group of baddies then it's gonna be over real quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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