MarcheseAMM Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Title says it all. And TBH, it makes Meetra's display more impressive considering canon says she beat Atris via blade.
MarcheseAMM Posted January 29, 2015 Author Posted January 29, 2015 To specify, I am referring to this quote: "Darth Traya is a master of lightsaber combat. In addition, she commands an array of potent dark side powers like Drain Life and Force Storm." --Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords: Prima Official Game Guide That is referring to Atris, not Kreia. Cheers.
Wolfninjajedi Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) Darth Traya is Artis now? News to me, I thought Kreia was Darth Traya....oh wait...she is the same person. Edited January 29, 2015 by Wolfninjajedi
MarcheseAMM Posted January 29, 2015 Author Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) Yep. Cut content had Atris becoming Darth Traya, but they changed it for time reasons. The Prima Guide never changed back to how the game was, so the Atris boss fight when she goes evil is titled the Darth Traya boss fight in the Prima Guide. The description of the fight, which is where Darth Traya gets her master accolade, was referring to Atris, not Kreia. Likewise, the Prima Guide never refers to Kreia as Darth Traya, including the final boss fight. Edited January 29, 2015 by MarcheseAMM
MarcheseAMM Posted January 29, 2015 Author Posted January 29, 2015 "By the time the Ebon Hawk lands on Telos, Kreia has already left. The damage has been done, however; Atris has openly embraced the dark side and has taken the moniker of Darth Traya. You confront her in her meditation chamber, where it's revealed that Traya has gathered dozens of Sith holocrons. She brushes aside any offer you make to show mercy or lead her to redemption, and there's no choice but to fight for your life... As a former member of the Jedi Council, Darth Traya is a master of lightsaber combat. In addition, she commands an array of potent dark side powers like Drain Life and Force Storm." --page 201 of the Prima Guide.
Selenial Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) She still became the new Darth Traya in her mind in the story, so yeh I'd still take that as canon. The only difference is she wore a black dress and a weird Malnificent style costume... Either way, Traya's still good, and that feat makes Surik better, so yeh! Oh and glad to see you bak, Wolf. Edited January 29, 2015 by Selenial
MarcheseAMM Posted January 29, 2015 Author Posted January 29, 2015 Yeah, this makes Meetra's feat more impressive, but slightly diminishes Traya's combat prowess.
Aurbere Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 She still became the new Darth Traya in her mind in the story, so yeh I'd still take that as canon. The only difference is she wore a black dress and a weird Malnificent style costume... Either way, Traya's still good, and that feat makes Surik better, so yeh! Oh and glad to see you bak, Wolf. Meh, not really sure it changes anything. Pretty sure you were touting both Atris and Kreia as great duelists for a while, so it doesn't change anything as far as I'm concerned. *shrug*
Selenial Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Meh, not really sure it changes anything. Pretty sure you were touting both Atris and Kreia as great duelists for a while, so it doesn't change anything as far as I'm concerned. *shrug* Well we already knew Atris was a master of combat from other sources, as for Traya, she showed advanced knowledge of all forms, had advanced skills beyond the basic forms and held a position in the order that's noted as allowing time to master combat and yourself. So indeed, it changes nothing, except for the singular line about force storm and drain life.
Jrr_hypernova Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Traya can no hands tri wield light sabers three times the sabers three times the awesome hence atris can suck it.
Aurbere Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Well we already knew Atris was a master of combat from other sources, as for Traya, she showed advanced knowledge of all forms, had advanced skills beyond the basic forms and held a position in the order that's noted as allowing time to master combat and yourself. So indeed, it changes nothing, except for the singular line about force storm and drain life. Force Storm and Drain Life? Well, that changes some things for Atris, at least. Probably Meetra, too, if the powers were actually applied in combat. But didn't you say it was a contest of pure skill?
Selenial Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Force Storm and Drain Life? Well, that changes some things for Atris, at least. Probably Meetra, too, if the powers were actually applied in combat. But didn't you say it was a contest of pure skill? Oh, you can't see the quote. "By the time the Ebon Hawk lands on Telos, Kreia has already left. The damage has been done, however; Atris has openly embraced the dark side and has taken the moniker of Darth Traya. You confront her in her meditation chamber, where it's revealed that Traya has gathered dozens of Sith holocrons. She brushes aside any offer you make to show mercy or lead her to redemption, and there's no choice but to fight for your life... As a former member of the Jedi Council, Darth Traya is a master of lightsaber combat. In addition, she commands an array of potent dark side powers like Drain Life and Force Storm." --page 201 of the Prima Guide. Makes it very clear she applied them. No I never said a contest of pure skill, that's the best part. Atris used the force against her, and was a master of lightsaber combat, on a nexus. What was pure skill was how Surik beat her, as it's noted as solely being her mastery with a blade...
Aurbere Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Oh, you can't see the quote. Makes it very clear she applied them. No I never said a contest of pure skill, that's the best part. Atris used the force against her, and was a master of lightsaber combat, on a nexus. What was pure skill was how Surik beat her, as it's noted as solely being her mastery with a blade... No, I couldn't see the quote. But that's interesting. Very interesting, and definitely a great showing from Meetra.
dcaleb Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 She couldn't beat her former servant in lightsaber combat (granted, Handmaiden is a total beast if you build her right but still), it was only when she broke out force powers that she was able to overwhelm her.
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