NogueiraA Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Used to be Balance/Madness, not anymore. I think the only counter for a Powertech is another Powertech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) Anything that also hits hard since Vg are squishy. Or a jug, because whos cares about that VG burst when you can just h2f twice. Edited December 15, 2014 by Zoom_VI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrackShotz Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Have you ever seen pt in ranked arenas? They die fast under focus with no tank to protect them. So the answer to you question on how to counter a pt? Focus him down he'll be dead in 3 secs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hei_Atzfel Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Anything that also hits hard since Vg are squishy. Or a jug, because whos cares about that VG burst when you can just h2f twice. Are you seriously going to try to tell me that there's nothing wrong with THIS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NogueiraA Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 Squishy? They're harder to kill than a Jugg/Guardian with all DCD's up. Concealment, Madness and Annihilation are the most squishiest atm. That burst tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdbgjfdhjgkjdhsg Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Vanguards seem to have lost something since they implemented the new system, especially if you are a Tank. It's either a nerf for I feel weaker since they decided to throw all the other levels in with level 60's with pvp gear to fight in warzones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausmisc Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 A decent jugg is a pretty good counter when you pair off predictable burst with reflect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derzelaz Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Are you seriously going to try to tell me that there's nothing wrong with THIS? A little funny, coming from an Assassin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hei_Atzfel Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 A little funny, coming from an Assassin. 1. I don't play hatred. 2. I refuse to use dark stability. So please, try again. Also if you think sin burst is ANYWHERE near AP then you're completely fooling yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkmcknz Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) This QQ train about burst is funny. On TOFN in yolo I'm the first target as an AP PT, they usually take me out first in every game amongst my team. Frankly if you let an AP PT run around you deserve to die. AP PTs have THE most predictable burst in the game. You have 2 *********** bombs ticking on you, if you stand like a melon taking this to the face then more fool you. Also, know that when I fire one rocket I sure as hell ain't sitting on the other 6. Frankly a good concelment op laughs all over us and literally makes us look like fools. Sins who know when to use their two shrouds can cause trouble. Sage who knows about bubble is trouble. Snipers who roll at the right time and flash bang our explosive fuel or shield are trouble. Basically, any class in this game can be countered in one way or another to some extent. If what you see in that video happens to you, son you have some L2P issues. Edited December 15, 2014 by mrkmcknz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hei_Atzfel Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 This QQ train about burst is funny. On TOFN in yolo I'm the first target as an AP PT Of course you are, because if you're allowed to live for more than five seconds you're going to obliterate the other team. Frankly a good concelment op laughs all over us and literally makes us look like fools This statement is utterly hilarious. I'm in the same guild as arguably one of (perhaps even the) best concealment ops on my server and half decent AP PT's give him a good amount of trouble. I'd wager a bet that an AP PT near his skill level could probably kill him. So, frankly, if you're getting beaten by concealment ops, perhaps you're the one who needs to L2P your PT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzMeshurik Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 This QQ train about burst is funny. On TOFN in yolo I'm the first target as an AP PT, they usually take me out first in every game amongst my team. Frankly if you let an AP PT run around you deserve to die. AP PTs have THE most predictable burst in the game. You have 2 *********** bombs ticking on you, if you stand like a melon taking this to the face then more fool you. Also, know that when I fire one rocket I sure as hell ain't sitting on the other 6. Frankly a good concelment op laughs all over us and literally makes us look like fools. Sins who know when to use their two shrouds can cause trouble. Sage who knows about bubble is trouble. Snipers who roll at the right time and flash bang our explosive fuel or shield are trouble. Basically, any class in this game can be countered in one way or another to some extent. If what you see in that video happens to you, son you have some L2P issues. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hei_Atzfel Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 This. You're funny guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzMeshurik Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 You're funny guy. ikr /5char Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hei_Atzfel Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 ikr /5char The sarcasm apparently didn't transfer through the text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzMeshurik Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 The sarcasm apparently didn't transfer through the text. orly now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkmcknz Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 So, frankly, if you're getting beaten by concealment ops, perhaps you're the one who needs to L2P your PT. You know that an AP PT dmg is mainly done by the bombs and rockets? And that a concealment op can roll and take 0, nadda dmg for 1.5s. Frankly, the only way to kill a good concealment op is with stuns. Eat the carbonize and break the hard stun. GG PT. Beaten by knives and rolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmob Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Have you ever seen pt in ranked arenas? They die fast under focus with no tank to protect them. So the answer to you question on how to counter a pt? Focus him down he'll be dead in 3 secs. that's only partially true though. when I was on tactics, we focused a merc healer, and we both died about the same time (3dps/1heal match). I was off the board, but so was their healer. we won both rounds that way. the AC is certainly killable under focus, but...he's still gonna take you with him -- at the very least he will if the ICD out of play. his team is focusing one of your guys too...and with him, they're prolly doing more dmg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teclado Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Dear BW, please nerf paper and buff scissors. Sincerely, rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derzelaz Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Also if you think sin burst is ANYWHERE near AP then you're completely fooling yourself. So, the times when I was at 40% hp, 2 sec after an Assassin opened on me were just illusions, right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KainrycKarr Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) Give Shoulder Cannon back its 1.5s internal CD (it's currently 0.5s, which is just lol), and AP is fine. That is seriously the one thing making the burst OP. Everything else has a huge delay, and any decent player worth his salt will utilize his CD's to counter it. Possibly even tone the HO buff heroic talent down to maybe an 25% rather than it's current 50%. Those are the only two real changes needed to fix AP at the moment. Naturally, when we receive the inevitable nerf, Bioware will do all the above, plus nerf all the other abilities damage by 10%, because they have no idea how to nerf/buff without breaking everything., and PT will have two useless specs in pvp instead of one amazing and one garbage. But as to the OP, a good concealment op, read; one that times his DCD's correctly, a good jug, and sins, can all give a PT a fair fight. Also madness sorc. Tbh, the only AC's that don't really have much to counter a PT with are Maras, Snipers, and Mercs (who can't counter a whole lot of things). Edited December 15, 2014 by KainrycKarr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glower Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Are you seriously going to try to tell me that there's nothing wrong with THIS? Yeah that was really fast. But still, he got some lucky delayed crits under that buff, he can't do that all the time. Sins can do this too (but in real time, not in delayed mode) with 3 stacks and then use it one more time after re-stealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glower Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Dear BW, please nerf paper and buff scissors. Sincerely, rock. There is no rocks/papers/scissors in 3.0, only rocks and sand dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Focus the **** out of them? Their burst is predictable, a lot of classes can negate a lot of it if you play them right. Sure they'll pull good numbers for the amount of time they survive, but yeh, focussing them is pretty much all you can do. That Hold the line is OP though Jesus, my poor roots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Give Shoulder Cannon back its 1.5s internal CD (it's currently 0.5s, which is just lol), and AP is fine. That is seriously the one thing making the burst OP. Everything else has a huge delay, and any decent player worth his salt will utilize his CD's to counter it. Possibly even tone the HO buff heroic talent down to maybe an 25% rather than it's current 50%. Those are the only two real changes needed to fix AP at the moment. Naturally, when we receive the inevitable nerf, Bioware will do all the above, plus nerf all the other abilities damage by 10%, because they have no idea how to nerf/buff without breaking everything., and PT will have two useless specs in pvp instead of one amazing and one garbage. But as to the OP, a good concealment op, read; one that times his DCD's correctly, a good jug, and sins, can all give a PT a fair fight. Also madness sorc. Tbh, the only AC's that don't really have much to counter a PT with are Maras, Snipers, and Mercs (who can't counter a whole lot of things). Sums up my thoughts nicely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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