OrionLives Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 With the release of SWTOR those who pre-ordered were given access to the pre-order crystal vendor. I understand the reward for pre-ordering. You were one of the originals. I really was bumbed when I found this game because I have been a Star Wars fanatic since I was in kindergarten and I had no idea this game was a thing. I joined this game the day after RotHC was released and have been a constant subscriber ever since. I was just wondering if there will be a way to access it in the future for consistent subscribers and loyal players of SWTOR. If not I totally understand but I will be kinda bumbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerfgs Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Coming from somebody who has the Crystal.. it really isn't that great and you get bored of it after you reach like level 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rankyn Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 No, the closest you will ever get to the pre-order crystal is if they release a new crystal that looks sort of like it much the way they did with the Razer crystal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenshinCyborg Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I would rather the newbies not have the crystal, it would make it harder to tell who has truly been there since the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorwen Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) You get better crystals from the cartel(or the GTN). Is it the color you are wanting or what? Every one but the lowest level cost too much and only the low level one is in the collection so you have to pay for each. Honestly I've thought about that crystal once in the last year and that was to go look and see the cost was stupid and collected another cartel crystal. Edited December 11, 2014 by Sorwen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feargal Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 LOL. I pre-ordered and I didn't even know there was such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerba Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) I agree that the pre-order crystal is not worth the hassle, but I can understand the need to want to access all vendors in the game. As far as I know, it is still possible to get access to the vendor, if you enter a pre-order code in your account. The problem is of course how to get a pre-order code, since most players who pre-ordered already entered their code, but maybe you're lucky and will find an unentered code. Edited December 12, 2014 by Jerba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I would rather the newbies not have the crystal, it would make it harder to tell who has truly been there since the beginning. Typical elitist thinking. "Us" vs. "Them". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orizuru Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I would rather the newbies not have the crystal, it would make it harder to tell who has truly been there since the beginning. You're assuming people actually used the crystal. Its +8 Endurance. Once you reach level 10, nobody uses it anymore. And we also have the Founder title as well, which allows you to show off how long you've been around without having to sacrifice 33-41 of whatever stat you prefer to have on your crystal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerba Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) You're assuming people actually used the crystal. Its +8 Endurance. Once you reach level 10, nobody uses it anymore. And we also have the Founder title as well, which allows you to show off how long you've been around without having to sacrifice 33-41 of whatever stat you prefer to have on your crystal. Ehm, you can get a +41 crystal at the pre-order crystal vendor. There's more to the pre-order bonus than just getting a +8 crystal in the mail... Edited December 12, 2014 by Jerba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orizuru Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Typical elitist thinking. "Us" vs. "Them". It is a bit of an elitist opinion, I won't argue that, but I don't think its terrible that there are rewards tied to aspects of the game that other players are not able to get if they weren't around at the time the rewards were available. As long as the rewards aren't the type that give some kind of advantage over the players who do not have them, because that would be unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orizuru Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Ehm, you can get a +41 crystal at the pre-order crystal vendor. There's more to the pre-order bonus than just getting a +8 crystal in the mail... I didn't know that idea made it into the game. I remember it being discussed a lot but it must have been implemented during my hiatus from the game. Thanks for sharing that information. I was not aware they had improved the pre-order bonus crystal in that way. Now if only it weren't so darn ugly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth__Reaver Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I would rather the newbies not have the crystal, it would make it harder to tell who has truly been there since the beginning. Does the founder title not count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feargal Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Does the founder title not count? Founder title came much later and did not require pre-order, AFAIK, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technohic Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Look; I understand you think its elitist, but when pre-ordering, they lure you in with the word "exclusive" to get you to do it. Think they have to honor that exclusive part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroxxme Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I would (have) support(ed) the preorder crystal being made available for preorders of expansions as well. But seeing how there have been two expansions with preorder option now that have passed without the crystal being made available, such a move would just result in more verbal abuse and demands for refunds and retroactive granting of vendor access. So it's better left the way it is. It should remain exclusive in some way since it was advertised as such, and making it freely available would just open another can of worms with a different group of players. There have been many other rewards for loyal players/subscribers and also 3 rainbows full of available color crystals, including several shades of orange and green combined with black. I understand the frustration of those who joined later, but the crystal and early access were the only preorder perks back then. Let those who followed the production updates for years and anxiously awaited preorder and ultimately launch of the game have that one little extra bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenshinCyborg Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Typical elitist thinking. "Us" vs. "Them". You're damn right Are you under the impression this a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celwinn Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 You're assuming people actually used the crystal. Its +8 Endurance. Once you reach level 10, nobody uses it anymore. And we also have the Founder title as well, which allows you to show off how long you've been around without having to sacrifice 33-41 of whatever stat you prefer to have on your crystal. I still use it until HS. Can I get an upgrade cyrstal? Yeah but honestly, you can get by on your Captial Planets just fine. Also, I like the color of it. If the ruomrs of crystals are becoming just vanity colours are true, I will be using thbe colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeweledleah Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I didn't know that idea made it into the game. I remember it being discussed a lot but it must have been implemented during my hiatus from the game. Thanks for sharing that information. I was not aware they had improved the pre-order bonus crystal in that way. Now if only it weren't so darn ugly! that vendor was added ages ago. ugly is in the eyes of the beholder I like it personally, my sage uses it - goes with her golden color scheme (and black core matches her somewhat troubled personality) I'm kinda torn on whether I'd want it to show up in game for people other then preorders. on one hand - if it were cartel crystal, I'd be able to unlock it and use it on all her companions too (as it is - its 250k per crystal, I'm too cheap to pay that much for comps, when cartel ones are free for me now, being unlocked and all) on the other hand... its pretty much the only distinct memorabilia left from those times... /ponder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVitrial Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I feel it should remain preorder only. The game has very few "perks" for those of us that have been around since the very beginning, and there are plenty of other color crystals. let this one stay exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoofa Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 If an item is added to the game that can only be given under "certain conditions" - so for example for pre-ordering the game or an expansion etc. then there should be NO future way of obtaining the item. I know it hurts - that somebody will have something you'll never be able to get, but that unfortunately is the nature of the beast. There is absolutely no point advertising something as "time limited" only for it to reappear some time later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlionherz Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 If an item is added to the game that can only be given under "certain conditions" - so for example for pre-ordering the game or an expansion etc. then there should be NO future way of obtaining the item. I know it hurts - that somebody will have something you'll never be able to get, but that unfortunately is the nature of the beast. There is absolutely no point advertising something as "time limited" only for it to reappear some time later. sadly thats not how it works for EA/BW...... the vendor is there since day 1. could deal with it if these crystals become a seeker droid (extreme)rare drop like the hyrotii scraper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvenHardNiner Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Typical elitist thinking. "Us" vs. "Them". Typical butt hurt thinking. Upset you don't have the crystal or something? By your logic anyone who says "Nightmare mounts should only be given to those who complete nightmare raids" is "typical elitist thinking". To the OP, tough luck. You didn't pre order the game, so you don't get a pre order crystal. Edited December 13, 2014 by EvenHardNiner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcan Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Pre-Order players were told that crystal would be exclusive, it was one of the driving forces behind getting players to pre-order. If they go back on that how can we trust anything they tell us will be exclusive ever again in future releases? That crystal is the only mark pre-order players have that distinguishes them as being here since even before launch. The founder title didn't come around until a couple months after launch. I don't think it's too much to ask that we are able to keep that are crystals exclusive considering that's exactly what we were told when we pre-ordered. After all, we even have to pay 200k credits for each crystal we use, at least u can unlock the cartel ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) I would rather the newbies not have the crystal, it would make it harder to tell who has truly been there since the beginning. And this matters to you? Other players' light saber crystal colors do not even register with me. And I could not even tell you what color(s) you get from the pre-order vendor. The only person you are impressing is yourself. Pre-Order players were told that crystal would be exclusive, it was one of the driving forces behind getting players to pre-order. If they go back on that how can we trust anything they tell us will be exclusive ever again in future releases? Exactly so. Same with the Collector's Edition, Security Key and VIP vendors. Edited December 13, 2014 by branmakmuffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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