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We've been asking for it since beta.

 

We asked until we just gave up. Then they added arena. Quite a few of us hated them (some of us have done arena's to death and got bored, we prefer objective team based pvp ... and we asked for larger warzones but they gave us smaller ones which annoyed us) ... and we asked again.

 

See, it doesn't just annoy us. It annoys those people that want to do arena an end up in 3v4 match ups because of those of us that leave every single one.

 

I'd be more than happy just doing Voidstar and Huttball. Just let me queue for those. It would save me leaving all the others and teams being short a player.

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Here's what I am guessing would happen if you could choose which map to queue for.

 

1) Almost no one would play Arena maps, and even assuming they counted as one map instead of the four-five we have right now, queue times for anyone who wanted to play arenas would increase massively.

 

2) Every map would have people asking only those with the exact right build and gear should be able to queue for them.

 

3) Each map would have a different kind of build dominate the queues for them (the only real exception I can think of would be Voidstar, due to the need for each player being able to both attack and defend competently).

 

4) Complaints from both casual and dedicated PvPers would go up due to each side getting annoyed at the other for ruining their enjoyment of the maps (this one already happens, but not nearly to the same degree as I think it would happen then).

 

Now, these are only guesses based on my experiences with warzones in an RP server. Your mileage might vary. That said, I am partially in support of this idea as long as those who select maps are on different queues from those who don't (playing Arsenal in Huttball is already annoying enough without people optimizing their builds for the map), and I never have to play arenas outside of ranked again.

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Kind of a slap in the face of the people who put together all the Warzones. I enjoy the variety, I'm not a huge fan of Arenas but they are a nice break from the same Huttball matches and what not. If you want to play the same 2 maps over and over play CoD or Halo. Not to sound like a douche or anything.
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Kind of a slap in the face of the people who put together all the Warzones. I enjoy the variety, I'm not a huge fan of Arenas but they are a nice break from the same Huttball matches and what not. If you want to play the same 2 maps over and over play CoD or Halo. Not to sound like a douche or anything.

 

Variety in 4 voidstar in a row? For example: voidstar voidstar voidstar voidstar arena voidstar arena voidstar civil war voidstar and finally - the HUTTBALL? Is it OK for you? :rolleyes:

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There isnt a high enough population to be able to choose which map to queue for, or to even exclude one. But if Bioware could just add in cross server queues like they should have AGES ago when the game went F2P due to population problems.... then this system might work.
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Here's what I am guessing would happen if you could choose which map to queue for.

 

1) Almost no one would play Arena maps, and even assuming they counted as one map instead of the four-five we have right now, queue times for anyone who wanted to play arenas would increase massively................

 

 

And there lies the rub. The devs force fed us arenas, a minority wanted them. If we were allowed to deselect them, it would be very clear to them they would have to admit the mistake, and that is never going to happen.

 

If the people wanting to queue for arenas alone are stuck in an hour long queue, that would speak volumes as to how many enjoy them, rather than tolerate.

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1) Almost no one would play Arena maps, and even assuming they counted as one map instead of the four-five we have right now, queue times for anyone who wanted to play arenas would increase massively.

 

And therein lies the problem.

 

When they told us they were forcing arena on us there were a hell of a lot of threads telling them that a large portion of the playerbase didn't want them.

 

The fact that folk know it wouldn't be popular kinda proves the point we made back then.

 

The point you missed though is there are still a hell of a lot of us that leave every single arena pop we get which can leave teams fighting 3v4.

 

The fact we have to queue for them doesn't just annoy us, it annoys the people we leave short handed.

 

I get roughly 10 arena pops a day. That's 10 times I leave and 30 people i've annoyed. I'm not the only one that does it so if 10 people leave 10 times a day that's 300 people annoyed because of BioWares incredibly outdated queue system.

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To be fair, some of my best PvP experiences happened when I was in a handicapped group like that, so I may have an unfair bias towards them, but like I said, I don't want to be forced to play in arenas during a normal queue either, because arena PvP is a completely different beast from the other maps, both in terms of solo skill and mindset, and in teamwork. If all the other maps are within five units of each other. Arenas sit a hundred units away from all of them, and the switch is not easy.

 

I like arenas. But they have their place, and a mixed unbanked queue isn't it.

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They don't let us choose warzones because that would then skew it to the "most popular" warzone. That is probably better overall, I feel like at least on Harbinger that I get a decent variety.

 

All that said, sudden death Arenas are a very different beast and should have never been mixed in with Warzones, especially since they have terrible class matching, 90% of the Arenas I am forced into are decided before the match even begins with terrible teams like double healers vs two tanks no heals.

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de_dust2 24/7 and cs_office 24/7. If you know what this is then you know how tired of the same "popular" warzones you'd do, over and over and over and over. the majority would constantly que for a similar warzone over and over and the community itself would be no better off than where we are now. It's a horrible idea to allow choosing the warzone, especially with the lower populations we have now.
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