Risl Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) It's been suggested before, that's for sure. But now that so many players have a lot more characters thanks to the 12x boost, it is getting really hard to keep track of all my friend's characters across all of my own characters. I like many of the features of Blizzard's BattleTag system (although using RealID was an awful idea) in that it allows the following: -Legacy friends must be mutual (one person requests the friend status, the other accepts) -It allows you to chat with Legacy friends across factions and even other servers I recognize that 'Legacy' in its current form is individual to each server, so what I'm discussing is really an account-wide system that they'd give a flashy sounding name. I think the system should also allow the ability to 'opt out' selected characters from this account-wide friend system. And so yeah, like I said, this isn't the first time something like this has been asked for. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=656249 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=663832 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=700726 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=548026 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=434532 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=674270 Edited November 9, 2014 by Risl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumperPenn Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 It's been suggested before, that's for sure. But now that so many players have a lot more characters thanks to the 12x boost, it is getting really hard to keep track of all my friend's characters across all of my own characters. I like many of the features of Blizzard's BattleTag system (although using RealID was an awful idea) in that it allows the following: -Legacy friends must be mutual (one person requests the friend status, the other accepts) -It allows you to chat with Legacy friends across factions and even other servers I recognize that 'Legacy' in its current form is individual to each server, so what I'm discussing is really an account-wide system that they'd give a flashy sounding name. I think the system should also allow the ability to 'opt out' selected characters from this account-wide friend system. And so yeah, like I said, this isn't the first time something like this has been asked for. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=656249 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=663832 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=700726 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=548026 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=434532 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=674270 I don't know blizzard's system so I can only go by the two things you listed. I'm against what you are describing because declining a legacy friend says to others you don't want to be available to chat with them whenever(or simplistically that I don't want to be their friend if there is only legacy friend) and I personally don't want that nor do I want to tell everyone so when I decline. I'd rather have a system that lets me have all my characters (my legacy) add the friend I add on character A to all my characters. That way it is a known character and if I choose to speak to them on whatever character that's up to me without me revealing characters I don't want known. Sometimes I want to play by myself and not feel obligated to anyone, other times I'm up to help and do stuff with my friends. Just having that legacy friend opt out thing makes it so people are blatantly aware I don't want to be 'available' all the time and to some people makes me a bad person. What you are describing to me seems like a third party solution is better like mumble, teamspeak or a simple chat program for gaming. I understand wanting that built in but I don't and having that system in place has a negative impact on people like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiamaraSimi Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) I don't know blizzard's system so I can only go by the two things you listed. I'm against what you are describing because declining a legacy friend says to others you don't want to be available to chat with them whenever(or simplistically that I don't want to be their friend if there is only legacy friend) and I personally don't want that nor do I want to tell everyone so when I decline. I'd rather have a system that lets me have all my characters (my legacy) add the friend I add on character A to all my characters. That way it is a known character and if I choose to speak to them on whatever character that's up to me without me revealing characters I don't want known. Sometimes I want to play by myself and not feel obligated to anyone, other times I'm up to help and do stuff with my friends. Just having that legacy friend opt out thing makes it so people are blatantly aware I don't want to be 'available' all the time and to some people makes me a bad person. What you are describing to me seems like a third party solution is better like mumble, teamspeak or a simple chat program for gaming. I understand wanting that built in but I don't and having that system in place has a negative impact on people like me. Agreed. I have alts I play when I'm feeling anti-social. The legacy friends thing will negate them if people can just check their list and see whatever alt I'm on. Ran into that in both Star Trek Online, and World of Warcraft. Being my "friend" in a video game, doesn't give anyone the right to know all my characters. Plus what if its a shared account? How would someone know the name they see isn't actually the players mom/dad/kid/roomate et cetera? Edited November 9, 2014 by XiamaraSimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risl Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Agreed. I have alts I play when I'm feeling anti-social. The legacy friends thing will negate them if people can just check their list and see whatever alt I'm on. Ran into that in both Star Trek Online, and World of Warcraft. Being my "friend" in a video game, doesn't give anyone the right to know all my characters. Plus what if its a shared account? How would someone know the name they see isn't actually the players mom/dad/kid/roomate et cetera? Because I understand and agree with your concerns, I did offer that there should be a way to 'opt out' certain characters from the system, so a player could still potentially play on an alt and not show up to Legacy friends. Good heavens, it's an optional friend system I'm suggesting, not a government surveillance program. If it's undesirable to you, its use would not be mandatory. Same goes if it's a shared account. Edited November 9, 2014 by Risl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risl Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'd rather have a system that lets me have all my characters (my legacy) add the friend I add on character A to all my characters. That way it is a known character and if I choose to speak to them on whatever character that's up to me without me revealing characters I don't want known. Sometimes I want to play by myself and not feel obligated to anyone, other times I'm up to help and do stuff with my friends. Just having that legacy friend opt out thing makes it so people are blatantly aware I don't want to be 'available' all the time and to some people makes me a bad person. I do like the idea of having the option to add a character as a friend to all your characters (with the same note) when you add it to one. I think they could have both systems. And sorry to say, I don't feel like your concerns about feeling bad about saying 'no' to someone should prevent other players from having an optional system that makes their social experience better while playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerdofprey Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I think this is a good idea in principle, but the way Blizzard implemented it was notoriously intrusive... I like the idea of being able to "opt out," but I was sort of mulling it over and maybe there is another way. What if, instead of being tied to the friend list or guild list or what have you, the account name would only show up in chat? Like instead of "Character: chat chat chat" it would go "(Account) Character: chat chat chat" and only to those people you've authorized? That would make it really simple to keep track of whose alts are whose, and people who want to be left alone could simply refrain from chatting. It wouldn't solve cross-faction issues, but I feel like cross-faction chat is a really separate thing both in terms of development and how people would want to use it. I feel like 90% of the time the cross-faction alts are the ones people don't feel like revealing to their friends. (For the record, I would also love to see a cross-faction option for custom chat channels!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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