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[Darth__Reaver]

Now here is what I'm suggesting.

 

8v8 team ranked group que.

1.able to que with an ops group

2.can never have an arena match (8v8 matchs only)

3.there are 2 types of que (group and solo duh)

4.no you can't que for a map you want it's random like how regs is now.

 

So that's pretty easy to understand not hard at all but you would be able to keep arenas ranked as well. By bringing back 8v8 team ranked would let other classes (like sniper) have a chance to play thier classes the way the they werew t to play. 4v4 and 8v8 would have seperated ratings just like how solo and grouped que is now. This is a being back 8v8 again how ever its also asking to keep 4v4. Also as always you will need a min of 2018 expertise to que and bolster is taken off (as it should be now) for ranked.

 

Thank you for your time

[EvenHardNiner]

(insert some classic Bioware excuse here)

 

The same amount of attention to team strategy and coordination will be required in high level Warzone Arena play so right now we want to focus on Warzone Arenas for the current Ranked matches.

 

Bioware thinks that 4v4 requires the same amount of coordination as 8v8.

Edited November 6, 2014 by EvenHardNiner

[undiess]

Here is a new one for Bioware:

"On our wall of crazy, that would be insane."

[Technohic]

Wait. How many more Qs you want added?

 

8v8 ranked was not popping, so they reduced it to 4v4 and essentially added a Q by having solo ranked. Thats not popping as well as people like most of the time, allowing super-qs to be easier but yet your answer is 2 more Qs? I'm not sure that would work at this point. Maybe with cross server but umm.....yeah.

 

I understand the desire for ranked 8v8, though. Even as a solo Q-er and especially for classes that are not as suited for arenas but at some point we have to accept what the game is and where it is at as far as population health.

 

I think the best chance of having what you would want would be to just lump everything back into the one regular Q again, but then assign a hidden rating as well as make it to where you do not gain raiting without beating someone higher rated or within an arbitrary rating below you to avoid win trading. Then take this concentrated pool of players and match-make first on group size and then on role/rating.

[sithBracer]

1. Snipers are perfectly viable in group ranked.

2. At this point bringing back 8s will not save anything as most of the people who played them have already moved on.

3. It is absolutely impossible to balance for solo queue, there will always be classes that are more suited to certain wzs and terrains more than others. Group 4s is for the most part, pretty balanced.

4. just accept the fact that there will never be truly competitive pvp in this game. The demand for it is very small (although vocal). This is a PvE game with some PvP in it, take it or leave it. If you are not enjoying it, stop torturing yourself and go do something that you enjoy; if you are for the most part enjoying it, continue enjoying the game for what it is.

Edited November 6, 2014 by sithBracer

[waterboytkd]

I think the best chance of having what you would want would be to just lump everything back into the one regular Q again, but then assign a hidden rating as well as make it to where you do not gain raiting without beating someone higher rated or within an arbitrary rating below you to avoid win trading. Then take this concentrated pool of players and match-make first on group size and then on role/rating.

 

This.

 

It cracks me up that people who want Ranked to mean something keep coming up with ideas to further fragment the player population. A ranking means nothing unless you have a big enough population where real differentiation occurs.

 

The only change I would make to your suggestion is to still give us "season" play. In all ways, it would be identical to Regs, only your rating would be visible and resets from season to season, and only 1 game type comes up (and this changes from season to season, so sometimes it could be Arena, sometimes Huttball, sometimes Voidstar, etc.).

 

Regs would serve as the off-season/training camp style play. Season play is the "Ranked" style play, and sure, you could get PUGs vs. Premades, but you know...if you entered a basketball tournament with a group of guys you didn't know, you just all met at sign up and formed a team so you could play, would you start whining to the ref that your opponents are a coordinated team that practiced together? Basically, if you wouldn't want to risk your rating in a PUG vs Premade game, don't enter Season Play without your team.

 

The only hiccup there is they would have to allow 8 man teams to queue into Regs then, but as long as the first matchmaking priority is group size (and it works its way down, so even if one 8 man team doesn't get another 8 man, they would then be paired against the next largest team out there, etc.), Premade farming would be largely mitigated.

Edited November 6, 2014 by waterboytkd