King_Fenny Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 OK so I have been back for a few days now and most of the time there is only 20 to 50 people on the fleet. Been in ranked solo q for 2 hours now and not one pop.I ask everyone on Jung Ma to make in game tickets asking them to merge us with the other PVP or PVE servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 If you are looking for ranked then may I suggest the /ranked channel, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luniara Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Well. We haven't seen one of these in a while, now have we? I blame Crinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulcalan Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 you know htere is a lot of ppl lvling alts lately wtih the 12X xp ... and lolranked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Well. We haven't seen one of these in a while, now have we? I blame Crinn. I didn't do it, I swear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonoku Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I didn't do it, I swear Yes you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbeeb Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Royce-Gracie for Jung Ma president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Yes you did. I'm lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonoku Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) I'm lost I'm going to rescue you, what are your coordinates. Landmarks, anything? Edited October 14, 2014 by Jonoku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) I'm going to rescue you, what are your coordinates. Landmarks, anything? Nearby sign says Groom Lake, Lincoln County Nevada. Edited October 14, 2014 by Zoom_VI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viozaer Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) OK so I have been back for a few days now and most of the time there is only 20 to 50 people on the fleet. Been in ranked solo q for 2 hours now and not one pop.I ask everyone on Jung Ma to make in game tickets asking them to merge us with the other PVP or PVE servers. Uh, no. The solution is not to merge this server with another, rather if Ranked is your thing then move your character to one that has an active Ranked community. Problem solved. Edited October 14, 2014 by Viozaer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetrus Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Uh, no. The solution is not to merge this server with another, rather if Ranked is your thing then move your character to one that has an active Ranked community. Problem solved. That's a terrible solution unless server transfers become free. It amounts to poor customer service. If they can't do cross-server queues, server merging is the next best option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonoku Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 They did try their best to repopulate the game with the 12x xp and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramm Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 If I may merging might be a bad idea I mean look at the last merge they had, everyone hated it and forced people who were comfortable with their server community get forced into another one with mix communities and chaos ensued. So a server merge is the last thing we need because if you disagree with me or not I can care less the server merge they had made people leave as stupid as it might sound people left because of stupid management of keeping things together and I will say it. BIOWARE F'ED UP. They panicked and said here lets do this and watch. Server merging ques seems more reasonable as they CAN do it but refuse to because of they are being whipped by EA saying encourage buying server transfers for a $18 fee (1800 Cartel points). So saying that they should do it isn't going to get us anywhere. If you want **** done you do a orderly protest and threaten to stop playing and paying for their product and EA and Bioware will be like oh **** and have two choices, do what we asked in the first place and add some sugar on top, OR shut down swtor. Trust me they will lean more towards add it because they still have years to milk this game of all the cash we throw at them. So like in real life government if you want something done, protest in a way they can't ignore you or throw you out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulcalan Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 if only there were some sort of key on my keyboard to make long rants easier to read... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Fenny Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 Thanks for the tips. I moved to EB and re rolled republic side. See everyone once they add the better than cross server. So nice being on a server with 2 to 3 fleets of republic and even more sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viozaer Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 That's a terrible solution unless server transfers become free. It amounts to poor customer service. If they can't do cross-server queues, server merging is the next best option. What's terrible about it? Merging our community with another is not the solution at all. Having a narrow agenda about what makes this game fun and focusing on just that one aspect is selfish. There is more to this server than Ranked PvP. Again, if that is your focus and you are not satisfied here, then move to a server that will fulfill that need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetrus Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) What's terrible about it? Merging our community with another is not the solution at all. Having a narrow agenda about what makes this game fun and focusing on just that one aspect is selfish. There is more to this server than Ranked PvP. Again, if that is your focus and you are not satisfied here, then move to a server that will fulfill that need. lol And you thinking this server is fine because there are a handful of guilds who RP so you are satisfied is selfish. Jung Ma is described as 'RP-PvP' - there's zero solo ranked unless Vicious starts it and then its basically in-house with 1-2 pugs. And zero group ranked. IE, the PvP aspect of the server is a joke. That's false advertising and it's all because BW is too incompetent to create cross-server queues. Consumers shouldn't have to pay extra (server transfers) because the product they bought and continue to pay for is essentially defective. Nor should we encourage the smallest server population in the game to become even smaller by having people transfer off. Which has already happened with several whole guilds. But by all means, continue to encourage exactly that. If people take your advice then a server merge is guaranteed. Edited October 15, 2014 by Aetrus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viozaer Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) lol And you thinking this server is fine because there are a handful of guilds who RP so you are satisfied is selfish. Jung Ma is described as 'RP-PvP' - there's zero solo ranked unless Vicious starts it and then its basically in-house with 1-2 pugs. And zero group ranked. IE, the PvP aspect of the server is a joke. That's false advertising and it's all because BW is too incompetent to create cross-server queues. Consumers shouldn't have to pay extra (server transfers) because the product they bought and continue to pay for is essentially defective. Nor should we encourage the smallest server population in the game to become even smaller by having people transfer off. Which has already happened with several whole guilds. But by all means, continue to encourage exactly that. If people take your advice then a server merge is guaranteed. What false advertising? Because there is not Ranked Warzones 24/7 for YOU to play that is somehow BioWare's fault? This is an "RP-PvP" server, meaning that community is as important as PvP. PvP is one part of the game and server along with PvE, RP, to name but two. Your fixation on Ranked PvP means YOU chose the wrong server, That is not BioWare's fault. That is yours. Let me put it to you this way - If you walk into a Ford dealership and expect to drive off in a Ferrari 458 how is that Ford's fault? Now, if you walk into a Ford dealership and are looking for a sports cars, then you are likely to drive off with one of their many models. It is the unrealistic expectation that is the issue, not the service or product offered. Do I want to see a lower server population? Of course not, but I'd rather you be happy playing the game you want to play on a server that fits your play style rather than have you blame BioWare, the Jung Ma community, Ford, etc for not meeting your expectations. Edited October 15, 2014 by Viozaer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 lol And you thinking this server is fine because there are a handful of guilds who RP so you are satisfied is selfish. Jung Ma is described as 'RP-PvP' - there's zero solo ranked unless Vicious starts it and then its basically in-house with 1-2 pugs. And zero group ranked. IE, the PvP aspect of the server is a joke. That's false advertising and it's all because BW is too incompetent to create cross-server queues. Consumers shouldn't have to pay extra (server transfers) because the product they bought and continue to pay for is essentially defective. Nor should we encourage the smallest server population in the game to become even smaller by having people transfer off. Which has already happened with several whole guilds. But by all means, continue to encourage exactly that. If people take your advice then a server merge is guaranteed. To be fair, im not sure that cross-server would fix anything in the long run. The amount of people doing ranked has been in steady decline on all servers since the initial spike with 2.4. Just as the amount of teams that did 8s steadily declined up until its removal in 2.4. If cross-server was implemented I would be very surprised if ranked didn't die anyways within 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonoku Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 PvP isn't a very popular aspect of this game anymore, its just time to accept that fact IMO. It feels lacking on all servers regardless, even on Pot5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetrus Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 To be fair, im not sure that cross-server would fix anything in the long run. The amount of people doing ranked has been in steady decline on all servers since the initial spike with 2.4. Just as the amount of teams that did 8s steadily declined up until its removal in 2.4. If cross-server was implemented I would be very surprised if ranked didn't die anyways within 6 months. It only declined because there were 1-2 teams on each server that dominated everyone else, so that there was absolutely no competition and newer teams would get stomped, discouraged and stop queuing. It happened on POT5 after I AM LEGEND collapsed and merged with Casual. It happened on Bastion with hey im mvp and Don't Panic being completely out of everyone else's league, it happened here with REGULATORS and SUPER DARK SIDE. As for ranked post 2.4...Wildstar got released, a game where the developers seemed to actually give a damn about PvP. And then everyone got the same idea that Viozaer had and transferred to Harbinger for group ranked. All the decent POT5 teams, Jung Ma teams and Bastion teams are there, drying up the ranked scene on their home servers. Cross-server queues fixes all that. And Viozaer's post is so asinine it doesn't deserve a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmob Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) there's zero solo ranked unless Vicious starts it and then its basically in-house with 1-2 pugs. some nights there's enough <arcanum> and <wrath> players that a few pugs can make things pop for a couple hours. still kicking myself for leaving that night early, cuz my rating went up about 80 points without 2-3 <vicious> on every team. luls seriously, though. the last week has been dreadful. if rivik doesn't jump on and announce that <vicious> is in yolo, the whole damn /ranked channel is dead...except for the occasional wise crack when someone has the nerve to ask about rated activity. It only declined because there were 1-2 teams on each server that dominated everyone else, so that there was absolutely no competition and newer teams would get stomped, discouraged and stop queuing. I agree with you about the asinine nature of forcing ppl to pay to transfer just for something that should exist here w/o paying, but I have to side with crinn on the quoted material. x-server is only a band-aid that would delay the inevitable death of the queue. the same thing that happened on the smaller servers would happen in x-server. the 8-10 (instead of 1-2) great teams would dominate the queue. no other, lesser quality teams would apply after a couple weeks. the 8-10 teams would continue to go at each other for maybe a month, but once a hierarchy is established, most of them would quit, either like <casuals> did because they "beat pvp" or because there's no point in playing against the same teams when the outcome is utterly predictable as soon as the opposing team loads in. I know I'm pretty much alone on this, but yolo really is where it's at. you get screwed a lot on team comps, but the teams are (almost) always different. and that, imo, is the reason -- if BW would address some obvious issues -- that the format is simply more sustainable than grp. :2cents: Edited October 16, 2014 by foxmob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sounders_Fan Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) I stopped doing solo ranked because I seemed to always get on the team with the fresh 55 with lvl 45 greens and no relics, or in the extreme case I had 4 in a row the last night I queued up with a guy wearing EMPTY shells. dude was a commando. when he got called out for it his reply was "I don't have the credits yet to pull my vangaurds gear out and put it into legacy armor". when you are on teams with guys that do less total damage than your individual big hit, yeah its easy to screw this, isn't worth the head ache. Edited October 16, 2014 by Sounders_Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmob Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I stopped doing solo ranked because I seemed to always get on the team with the fresh 55 with lvl 45 greens and no relics, or in the extreme case I had 4 in a row the last night I queued up with a guy wearing EMPTY shells. dude was a commando. when he got called out for it his reply was "I don't have the credits yet to pull my vangaurds gear out and put it into legacy armor". when you are on teams with guys that do less total damage than your individual big hit, yeah its easy to screw this, isn't worth the head ache. I empathize with your plight. but that's one of the really easy fixes: require full 2018 exp pre-bolster. iunno. BW seems determined to half-*** every thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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