KumbayaGOD Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 you know as sorc/sage we need fade out skill tree to escape from root , but since the new expansion will remove so called hybrid will this also remove this ability since fadeout is not in madness or lighting skill tree if that so, then we are really really upset ( as sage and sorc) because that ability is important so escape when things get south any thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TezMoney Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Nothing is final. No point in complaining about changes before they even hit PTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkshadz Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Isn't fadeout in the utility tree, which is accessible to all specs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackNader Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Isn't fadeout in the utility tree, which is accessible to all specs? Yes.. He apparently couldn't be bothered looking at the stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaniAkavir Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Healer sages with bubble stun and knockback roots The time of the scoundrels is coming to an end!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KumbayaGOD Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 yeah i didnt see the stream so that why i am asking people who saw it thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Nala Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 yeah i didnt see the stream so that why i am asking people who saw it thx Go watch the stream. Any Sorc/Sage owes it to themselves. It will bring tears to your eyes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenjigreat Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Healer sages with bubble stun and knockback roots The time of the scoundrels is coming to an end!! Nah just RIP MELEE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KumbayaGOD Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 Go watch the stream. Any Sorc/Sage owes it to themselves. It will bring tears to your eyes! tears of joy i presume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
znihilist Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 tears of joy i presume? Yep but don't stay happy for a long time, they have not showed what can melee do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hei_Atzfel Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Madness with overload root, fadeout, bubblestun, and instant WW. Oh the horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raansu Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 you know as sorc/sage we need fade out skill tree to escape from root , but since the new expansion will remove so called hybrid will this also remove this ability since fadeout is not in madness or lighting skill tree if that so, then we are really really upset ( as sage and sorc) because that ability is important so escape when things get south any thought? Someone missed the stream showing off how incredibly broken sorcs will be in 3.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Bob- Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 4.0 confirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
znihilist Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Someone missed the stream showing off how incredibly broken sorcs will be in 3.0. Broken in comparison to what ? That statement can't be in a vacuum, they have not showed us the capabilities of the other classes.So why is it so difficult to wait for the complete picture before passing judgments like this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackNader Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) Judging by what they gave sorcs and how the talents spread across all trees have been put into 3 utility selections... it's pretty much a safe bet that all the goodies from all the other classes are now pretty much the same thing. ie. Assassins will probably have root break on force speed, lowered cooldown on force speed, 30 aoe reduction, 30 damage reduction while stunned, 15% movement speed, etc, etc The one thing i'm really hoping they've done is shift taunts into the tanking Disciplines. Edited October 8, 2014 by JackNader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xX-Archangel-Xx Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Healer sages with bubble stun and knockback roots The time of the scoundrels is coming to an end!! Wait to see scoundrels new skills and utility, i trust bioware but until now there is only an healer class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafy_Bug Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) Remember the days when everyone had a sorc in PVP and you could not even move from all those boltz up your trumpet? In case some of you do not remember, in 3.0 BW decided to give you a reminder ! Edited October 8, 2014 by Leafy_Bug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Nala Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Remember the days when everyone had a sorc in PVP and you could not even move from all those boltz up your trumpet? In case some of you do not remember, in 3.0 BW decided to give you a reminder ! UNLIMITED POWER!!!! But seriously, please wait to see what the other classes get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Nala Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 The one thing i'm really hoping they've done is shift taunts into the tanking Disciplines. Very little likelihood of that, perhaps the AoE taunt at most. They left Sorcs with Dark Heal and even made Resurgence baseline so it's not like they are linking all the healer/tank powers to those disciplines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adovir Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I feel like I'm going to die alittle on the inside when I watch it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDraxter Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Healer sages with bubble stun and knockback roots The time of the scoundrels is coming to an end!!you got info on what scoundrels are getting to make that claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adovir Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 you got info on what scoundrels are getting to make that claim? Nerfed dps ofc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuku-sama Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Nerfed dps ofc Scoundrel cannot be buffed.. After all they are so OP they're more Op than the OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashuranrx Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I think I am the only one who thinks Sorc looks like it got buffed by itself, but actually got nerfed in the meta-game. DoTs can't be cleansed? Sorcs already got that now, so it is not really a buff. Purge is still in effect, so Force Shroud and Dodge still purge Dots. Healer sorcs now have 15% DoT damage reduction, which they did not have before. This means Madness Sorc will actually do less damage than they do now to healer Sorcs. Now I don't know if Mercs and Operatives will also get 15% DoT damage reduction, but if they do, DoT specs will become the worse healer killing specs. DoT damage reduction + not enough burst = can't kill healers. And Life Drain, it was doing half the damage of other attacks. Yes, it heals you for the damage dealt, so it will be good in a duel. But in competitive team PvP, with a good healer and a good tanking backing the Sorc, the weak DPS self heal is not what is needed. What is needed in competitive PvP from a DPS is maximum DPS output to take down the focus fire target, and that means attacks with strong DPS. A weak DPS attack like Life Drain will not help in attack rotation. And if all the healer classes get to pick 15% DoT reduction, I think Madness Sorc may lose its spot in competitive PvP as a DPS. What I am saying it, it is too early to get happy or cry doom. We got to look at every class and the meta-game to really know who gets shafted and who gets buff in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafy_Bug Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) I think I am the only one who thinks Sorc looks like it got buffed by itself, but actually got nerfed in the meta-game. DoTs can't be cleansed? Sorcs already got that now, so it is not really a buff. Purge is still in effect, so Force Shroud and Dodge still purge Dots. Healer sorcs now have 15% DoT damage reduction, which they did not have before. This means Madness Sorc will actually do less damage than they do now to healer Sorcs. Now I don't know if Mercs and Operatives will also get 15% DoT damage reduction, but if they do, DoT specs will become the worse healer killing specs. DoT damage reduction + not enough burst = can't kill healers. And Life Drain, it was doing half the damage of other attacks. Yes, it heals you for the damage dealt, so it will be good in a duel. But in competitive team PvP, with a good healer and a good tanking backing the Sorc, the weak DPS self heal is not what is needed. What is needed in competitive PvP from a DPS is maximum DPS output to take down the focus fire target, and that means attacks with strong DPS. A weak DPS attack like Life Drain will not help in attack rotation. And if all the healer classes get to pick 15% DoT reduction, I think Madness Sorc may lose its spot in competitive PvP as a DPS. What I am saying it, it is too early to get happy or cry doom. We got to look at every class and the meta-game to really know who gets shafted and who gets buff in the end. Wait a minute? Are you talking about the right tree for sages and sorcs, balance /madness / aka OP as F*ck where tab dotting gives you millions of damage? 'I think madness sorc may lose its spot in competitive PVP as DPS' is probably the best thing I have read all day given what I said in the beginning of my post . No s*it it is a nerf, they deserve to be nerfed they are not okay! Proof of BW doing class (un) balance again :cool:. Edited October 8, 2014 by Leafy_Bug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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