johnatters Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Oops, I didn't bother reading back pages. Oh well, it still provides a method for determining if someone's healing is legitimate or not. Glad to see you stuck around for 55s, enjoyed playing games with and against you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexsamma Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Oops, I didn't bother reading back pages. Oh well, it still provides a method for determining if someone's healing is legitimate or not. Besides Turdel's record which is still listed on the leaderboard, is undeniably a acid exploit. Although I find it amusing that even with straight acid healing they can only come up with 3.3k HPS, considering there are people that have done 3.6k legitimately Try 4.4k in a ranked match. Still, arena hps =!= warzone hps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pberryphoenix Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Gardenoflight Art of War Sorcerer Voidstar #5 healing per second 8v8 http://imgur.com/IGdeL0r better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shenyu Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Gardenoflight Art of War Sorcerer Voidstar #5 healing per second 8v8 http://imgur.com/IGdeL0r better? consumption hacks ban all sorcs immediately all sorcs banned from leaderboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pberryphoenix Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 consumption hacks ban all sorcs immediately all sorcs banned from leaderboards o.O... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMaranathax Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) I am in the process of restoring the 4v4 DPS category. After further investigation, a record was found in violation due to being submitted with a screenshot from a different server. This is against thread rules, whether stated or implied. If this was a mishap, and the stars aligned where both screenshots had the identical same value for the Damage per Second category, I insist the player responsible resubmit with the proper screenshot. As for which records qualify: We are on the verge of 3.0. As a result, this thread will be archived and a new thread will be started for 3.0. These are all great thoughts to think about as we turn into a new expansion pack. We should open a new thread and discuss it. For the time being, let's keep this simple. When I see an outlier in data, I look the image over. If you are in the acid pit, then I won't count it. But if you are mid when the SS is taken, that takes away ammo for me to say no. Deep down I do believe that there needs to be more analysis into the submission of threads. I believe this would be a great addition to the 3.0 thread when it comes. EDIT: So, great math and everything, and the talk on healing,really enjoyed it, I've never tried healing, so I don't know how it works. LOL! Edited October 22, 2014 by xMaranathax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) If you want a really simple fix for determining legitimacy I would recommend that you make a rule where submissions cannot be cropped or modified in any way. I did that with the Jung Ma records thread and it worked fine, the only exception I allowed was that people could obscure the chatbox if they wanted to. Also banning records because they are near the acid trap is a bit much, its not unreasonable that a healer could end up near the trap when the match ends even if they are playing legitimately. Edited October 22, 2014 by Zoom_VI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindol Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 If you want a really simple fix for determining legitimacy I would recommend that you make a rule where submissions cannot be cropped or modified in any way. I did that with the Jung Ma records thread and it worked fine, the only exception I allowed was that people could obscure the chatbox if they wanted to. Also banning records because they are near the acid trap is a bit much, its not unreasonable that a healer could end up near the trap when the match ends even if they are playing legitimately. Yeah, he's right. Best thing is to just post the whole scoreboard and make it so that we can see as much information as possible. Altering screenshots is the first sign of foul play to me. Neither, I, nor any of my friends have done it in the past when posting records. So, I just don't see the need for it. In terms of determining legitimacy. It's obvious if a healer has ridiculous heals and the enemy team didn't even put out any damage.... Just got to look at all the variables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrowa Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Name - Kovy Guild - N/A Class - Powertech Map - Civil War Stat Category - Overall Damage Screenshot http://postimg.org/image/ui2npz9sl/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Name - Kovy Guild - N/A Class - Powertech Map - Civil War Stat Category - Overall Damage Screenshot http://postimg.org/image/ui2npz9sl/ What did they do, just all huddle in your flamethrower the entire match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrowa Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) LOL exactly. They took grass for almost a minute, that's all they needed. AOE fest at mid. Edited October 26, 2014 by Burrowa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthConn Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Name - Kovy Guild - N/A Class - Powertech Map - Civil War Stat Category - Overall Damage Screenshot http://postimg.org/image/ui2npz9sl/ Yea but that healer had 3.3 million heals. That's the real winner in that game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrowa Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Yeah he was impossible to take down, I focused him entire match. Not to mention only one focusing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Yeah he was impossible to take down, I focused him entire match. Not to mention only one focusing him. AP isn't exactly known for being able to kill healers, that's what Pyro is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VarekRayth Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 AP isn't exactly known for being able to kill healers, that's what Pyro is for. wat. AP murders healers m8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrowa Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) 4v4 Name - Kovy Guild - N/A Class - Powertech Map - Makeb Stat Category - DPS Screenshot http://postimg.org/image/5j6a9lx4j/ Edited October 26, 2014 by Burrowa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) wat. AP murders healers m8. uhhh no? Unless by murder healers you mean murder tanks with lolelementaldamagecleave. 1 to 1 AP is a non threat to healers except during the SC phase. Edited October 27, 2014 by Zoom_VI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VarekRayth Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 uhhh no? Unless by murder healers you mean murder tanks with lolelementaldamagecleave. 1 to 1 AP is a non threat to healers except during the SC phase. Which is exactly when either of them is their most dangerous. AP has better burst than Pyro when both are at their burst peaks, Pyro can just burst more frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grazner Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Naulix Nightfire - Infamous - Sniper - 8v8 Overall Damage - Civil War http://assets.enjin.com/wall_embed_images/1413778376_Screenshot_2014-10-19_21_56_40_771321.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Which is exactly when either of them is their most dangerous. AP has better burst than Pyro when both are at their burst peaks, Pyro can just burst more frequently. Only if you count the entirety of the Battle Focus window. Pyro can easily take 50% of a target's HP bar in a single global, and take the rest in the next two. Tactics requires 4-5 globals to do the same even if the overall damage during the Explosive Fuel window is greater. Any good Operative healer ought to be able to heal through a AP PT. Edited October 27, 2014 by Zoom_VI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowopsx Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) I don't know if this server has a damage taken record list butttt this EDIT: This too Edited October 29, 2014 by shadowopsx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VarekRayth Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I don't know if this server has a damage taken record list butttt this EDIT: This too Psh, that's it? L2gettunneled to **** m8888888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmerry Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I don't know if this server has a damage taken record list butttt this EDIT: This too y u do no dmg m8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seyahat Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 y u do no dmg m8 His buffs are hard to see but I believe he is running in Ion cell and presumably running a hybrid build. Tank stance in void star? My guess is that he was close to the doors and preventing caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmerry Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 His buffs are hard to see but I believe he is running in Ion cell and presumably running a hybrid build. Tank stance in void star? My guess is that he was close to the doors and preventing caps. sorry inside jokes between guildies dont translate well over the internet.. also he was pyro in the first game.. fus.. i am dissapoint my child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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