Brunner_Venda Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Healers can't heal while CC'ed. Stealthers can't gank while CC'ed DPS specs can't do damage while CC'ed. Why can tanks absorb damage while mezzed or stunned? It should turn the guard icon 'blue' and deactivate their guard (or drop it) while they sit there and do the force lightning stun-dance. Simple change. Tanks don't need a nerf, they just need to be affected by the same CC mechanics the rest of us do. Edited May 29, 2014 by Brunner_Venda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L-RANDLE Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Um. Spec/stance and passive defensive abilities works for all classes while stunned. I know guard isn't where it needs to be but.... /disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyboyW Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 This isn't really true, HoTs and DoTs keep ticking regardless of stuns. The tank cannot switch guard when stunned, so in both cases the active effects are disabled but the passives remain. The guard mechanic could use some tweaks, but this suggestion is slightly silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanzend Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Tanks taking guard damage while mezzed SHOULD break (but it doesn't) because they are recieving damage. Per tooltip mezzes break on damage. Everybody and their mother rolls dps so "popular" opinion is always "nerf tanks". Simply because frustrated dps don'tknow how to deal with the mechanics. A small minortiy of matches go to acid so this is a non-issue. Any nerfs to tanking mechanics would make them more less-desirable than they already are. Edited May 30, 2014 by Lanzend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JouerTue Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 hey that's our job..if i'm getting the stuns and the mezzs i'm happy because the healer is not getting them. how do you see if your connection with the force being broken from a stun would dispel all your dots on a target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearlie Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 This isn't really true, HoTs and DoTs keep ticking regardless of stuns. The tank cannot switch guard when stunned, so in both cases the active effects are disabled but the passives remain. The guard mechanic could use some tweaks, but this suggestion is slightly silly This. OP thought he was on to something, but.....naw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODTONE Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) rofl! someone complaining that you cant kill enuagh during stuns! Is this for real! No wonder pvp is going down the drain... probably the worst complaint ever, i think the contrary while stuned in pvp every palyer SHOULD get at least an 80% damage reduction ! So sick of you guys stuning the whole god darned match making pvp some of the worst in an mmo. And i tank alot in pvp, for your information tanking in pvp sux because its underpowered, probably the most ignored role by devs in this game... mitigation isnt at all where it should be and its getting worst, for your information in this game alot of tanks actually do their best mitigation fighting and buffing the stats up with abilities while fighting so stuns already reduce a tanks mitigation by tons, actually reduces it way too much. And BTW cc isnt the same as stuned, cc is fine it gets broken from combat, stuns you can take damage and still sit there like a vegetable, worst game mechanic for pvp ever! stupid stun lockers Edited May 30, 2014 by ODTONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Spectre Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 TAny nerfs to tanking mechanics would make them more less-desirable than they already are. You are exactly right. I'll go one step further with it. If they were to do something that the OP is suggesting, it would destroy tanking as we know it. Tanks would become a liability and probably disappear all because someone QQ'd about not knowing how to deal with a Tank and its guarding ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmurph Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Tanks taking guard damage while mezzed SHOULD break (but it doesn't) because they are recieving damage. Per tooltip mezzes break on damage. Everybody and their mother rolls dps so "popular" opinion is always "nerf tanks". Simply because frustrated dps don'tknow how to deal with the mechanics. A small minortiy of matches go to acid so this is a non-issue. Any nerfs to tanking mechanics would make them more less-desirable than they already are. Agreed. Especially since if I've got guard on while in stealth, I can get dropped out of stealth when they get hit. Yes, I've come to realize I shouldn't guard while stealthed in PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtremophile Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 rofl! for your information in this game alot of tanks actually do their best mitigation fighting and buffing the stats up with abilities while fighting so stuns already reduce a tanks mitigation by tons, actually reduces it way too much. /thread. Either OP is a troll or should know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezarthanon Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Easy fix to guard. Take the 5% overall damage reduction it does away and make the split 55% guard target 45% tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCaliban Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Healers can't heal while CC'ed. Healers can heal while dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunner_Venda Posted June 1, 2014 Author Share Posted June 1, 2014 (edited) Easy fix to guard. Take the 5% overall damage reduction it does away and make the split 55% guard target 45% tank. This might be enough. All I'm saying is that something has to be done about the 1+1=3 problem with jugg tanks and OP healers. Between the new ED, and OP healer survivability, it's a tad over the top in arenas. I mean yes, you can push/pull the tank away and stun him, but he'll usually just intercede right back. Edited June 1, 2014 by Brunner_Venda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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