warstory Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) increase the critical hit chance of lightning charge by 45%. this skill is not working lightning charge is hitting off your base crit the bonus crit chance is not being applied. plz fix! this skill effects our survivability because of heals are based off our dots crits Lightning charge not working if dots seems to be the bug Updated. Edited December 23, 2013 by warstory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbgood Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 looking at some sith assasin's combat logs at torparse you can see lightning charge's crit chance over 70% all the way. there is no bug, these logs were uploaded a few days ago. btw this skill does not effect our survivability as lightning charge is no dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warstory Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 looking at some sith assasin's combat logs at torparse you can see lightning charge's crit chance over 70% all the way. there is no bug, these logs were uploaded a few days ago. btw this skill does not effect our survivability as lightning charge is no dot. I tested it on fleet this morning it crits at 20ish% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbgood Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 post your combat log please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warstory Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 no log i just used the ability on the dummie on fleet and counted the ticks. 1 maybe 2 the entire duration. did it a few times just to make sure samething Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IInox Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 ehm..it's better you try it again at least mm..20/30times and upload the fight on torparse.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warstory Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 is that a joke 60 - 70% vs 20% is noticable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordbadtamaru Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 RNG. Seriously, parse it. At least 5 minutes to double check it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warstory Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 u guys have parse i dont when shock double hits more than lightning charge crits i know soomething some where is wrong. there is a bug somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warstory Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 the devs can test put it out there that it doesnt crit enough if they dont test it its up to them. everyone laughs at madness in pvp so its up to them what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbgood Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) don't you mix up discharge and lightning charge? Lightning Charge Instant Force: 100 Charges your lightsaber with lightning, giving your attacks a 50% chance to deal 214 energy damage. This effect cannot occur more than once every 1.5 seconds. Requires a double-bladed lightsaber or electrostaff. Does not break Stealth. Discharge Instant Force: 20 Range: 10 m Unleashes your current lightsaber charge upon the target, applying an effect based on your current charge. Only usable with a charged lightsaber. Requires a double-bladed lightsaber or electrostaff. Lightning Charge: Deals 1471 periodic energy damage over 18 seconds. these energy damage spikes who are added to 50% gain crit rate from the talent charge mastery, not the discharge-dot. lightning charge damage triggers lighning burns, from whom we gain force. Edited December 23, 2013 by johnbgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warstory Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) ok discharge is a dot correct? when u apply that dot lightning charge is suppose to tick as well every 1.5 secs correct?. well there is a bug here cause it lightning charge does not tick off of any dots. there is nothing in the text that says direct attacks. I was mistaken because both were labeled the same name. thinking the discharge dot was getting the crit modifier. now we have found the bug and lightning charge is not affecting dots Edited December 23, 2013 by warstory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warstory Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 And before anyone says it's not suppose to tick on dots. 1 it says attack which means any attack 2. Lambaste Lacerate now automatically triggers Lightning Charge on affected targets on a separate rate limit. Meaning we are suppose to use this skill to trigger lightning charge on top of the dot. (Been trying to do this for 3 days trying to figure how to best use lacerate in my rotation.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbgood Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 ok discharge is a dot correct? when your saber is charged with lightning which it should be when playing the madness tree, then yes, it is a dot. when u apply that dot lightning charge is suppose to tick as well every 1.5 secs correct? no, it has a 50% chance to be triggered from any of your attacks, including ticks from dots. well there is a bug here cause it lightning charge does not tick off of any dots. there is nothing in the text that says direct attacks. I was mistaken because both were labeled the same name. thinking the discharge dot was getting the crit modifier. now we have found the bug and lightning charge is not affecting dots there is no bug. it has a 50% chance to be triggered from any of your attacks, including ticks from dots. just take a look in an assasin's combat log and you'll see. 2. Lambaste Lacerate now automatically triggers Lightning Charge on affected targets on a separate rate limit. Meaning we are suppose to use this skill to trigger lightning charge on top of the dot. (Been trying to do this for 3 days trying to figure how to best use lacerate in my rotation.) the lambaste-talent is just there to amplify our aoe-damage from lacerate. we are not supposed to use it to trigger lightning charge on top of the dot lacerate is not used in single target rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warstory Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) What I am saying is go on fleet and test it does not trigger on dots at all. U guys are reading the text and not testing at all. No parse needed 0 lightning charge off any dots period Edited December 23, 2013 by warstory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbgood Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 thanks to your ignorant attidude this debate makes no sense. our combat logs are much more accurate than your manual counting method and they prove there is no bug. nearly everything you statet in your thread is wrong and i don't care anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warstory Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 Can ur log tell u whether lightning charge came off of a direct attack or dot? Because I can tell u 1000% lightning charge does not tick off of any dot. I seen it tick off of force lightning, thrash, spike. Not once was there a lightning charge tick off of lightning charge dot or creeping terror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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