ScytheEleven Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Me too lol I have one question for you, but keep in mind I play a Powertech on Pyro. I noticed you open with TD. Doesn't that kind of put you behind on DPS right off the bat? Since the application of TD throws you into combat, and doesn't do any damage initially...do you find this works better? I typically go IM > RS > TD > and then do all my PT stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falver Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) Expect an update on the 26th. There will be one more update in mid-early/mid December, after which I will be passing the thread to someone else (sooner if I can get him/her acclimated). Edited November 24, 2013 by Falver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xAyahuaskax Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Hexing - Mercenary - Pyro - 2/8/36 - 3447.81 Log Link: http://www.torparse.com/a/504544/time/1385382811/1385383113/0/Overview AMR Profile: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/774d6c99-9acb-462f-962c-05501026db17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandellon Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Hope - Gunslinger - Hybrid 5/18/23 - 3646 http://www.torparse.com/a/504612/time/1385382520/1385382824/0/Damage+Dealt WTB top1 parse crits Also Hope - Gunslinger - DirtyFighting 5/5/36 - 3532 http://www.torparse.com/a/504065/time/1385331082/1385331385/0/Overview AMR updates (without fail this time ): http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/4d95337d-5e72-4a3f-82da-bcdc7b8fd6fd for hybrid 2 set pieces are obv swaped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valican Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Krastin - Mercenary - Pyro - 2/8/36 - 3489.4 Log Link:http://www.torparse.com/a/499424/time/1384983581/1384983884/0/Damage+Dealt AMR Link:http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/2ba6d195-b144-4d25-afc1-b2e5c69a21e0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvane Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) Question about pyro/assault, how are you all never having to hammer shot/rapid shot? As assault i can get to 39~40apm but I'm not able to do anywhere near the amount of power shots in the same time frame due to ammo restrictions. Edited November 25, 2013 by Sylvane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejollygreenone Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Mikaeel-Shadow-5/36/5-2901.28dps Torparse: http://www.torparse.com/a/505037 AMR: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/aed0863c-bb90-40eb-96fe-1f955f1d55cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RynZelara Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Expect an update on the 26th. There will be one more update in mid-early/mid December, after which I will be passing the thread to someone else (sooner if I can get him/her acclimated). Ah, that's a shame to hear. =( I did notice you seem to be getting quite busy though. We certainly appreciate all the hard work you've done in keeping the thread going Falver, and providing various players across all servers the opportunity to have not only a spirit of healthy competition, but a place to calmly discuss various specs and rotations that furthers everyone's knowledge and ability in their respective classes, as well as even other classes they may not have taken a close look at before. Many thanks. I'll be sad to see you hand the thread over (though I'm sure it doesn't mean much coming from a random person xD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_a_r_t_hA_l_e_x Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Ah, that's a shame to hear. =( I did notice you seem to be getting quite busy though. We certainly appreciate all the hard work you've done in keeping the thread going Falver, and providing various players across all servers the opportunity to have not only a spirit of healthy competition, but a place to calmly discuss various specs and rotations that furthers everyone's knowledge and ability in their respective classes, as well as even other classes they may not have taken a close look at before. Many thanks. I'll be sad to see you hand the thread over (though I'm sure it doesn't mean much coming from a random person xD) /sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odawgg Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) I have one question for you, but keep in mind I play a Powertech on Pyro. I noticed you open with TD. Doesn't that kind of put you behind on DPS right off the bat? Since the application of TD throws you into combat, and doesn't do any damage initially...do you find this works better? I typically go IM > RS > TD > and then do all my PT stuff... Well, although there may be a better opener than I'm using, IM > RS > TD would be a slight dps loss over what I'm currently doing. when TD and IM are both at your disposal, like at the beginning of a dummy encounter, TD is more powerful over it's duration, which is what matters, not just which one gives you an instant hit or not. However, I am still experimenting, cuz every GCD you can move forward your Rail Shot procs is a significant DPS gain due to hitting hard as well as venting heat. It's just that IM > RS > TD doesn't move it up any further than my current opener TD > EN > RS. It moves the first one up, but not any subsequent RS's. I'm looking into another opener that would move this RS forward, there's just a number of factors to consider and I'm trying to figure out the best way to do it, cuz i still want to get 4 ENs and 4 FMs in a 5 minute window which would mean they can't sit off cd for very long...we'll see Of course, most of this information is likely irrelevant to Powertechs Question about pyro/assault, how are you all never having to hammer shot/rapid shot? As assault i can get to 39~40apm but I'm not able to do anywhere near the amount of power shots in the same time frame due to ammo restrictions. You may not be getting as many PPA procs > hence rail shots in. The more rail shots you get in, the more heat you vent and the less rapid shots you will need. Every Rail shot is a net -15.5 heat...every power shot is a net 8.5 heat so if you do the math you can get nearly 2 more power shots in place of rapid shots for every extra rail shot you squeeze into your rotation. Proc'ing PPA as close to every 6s as possible is extremely important, occasionally it will take an extra GCD, so 7.5s to proc it, if it ever takes longer than that, you should adjust your rotation. Expect an update on the 26th. There will be one more update in mid-early/mid December, after which I will be passing the thread to someone else (sooner if I can get him/her acclimated). Thank you very much Falver for maintaining this thread, I hope we can find someone to do the job even half as good as you have! Edited November 26, 2013 by odawgg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damastes Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Aerre - Shadow - Infiltration 5/36/5 - 2868.93 Log Link: http://www.torparse.com/a/493418/time/1384457255/1384457555/0/Damage+Dealt AMR Profile: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/cf34698d-d8b5-4a95-86fb-4f4141c5dfde And your work with this thread has been much appreciated, Falver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uriaces Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 A litle better ^^ ! http://www.torparse.com/a/505408/time/1385469545/1385469864/0/Overview Kishekzun Vigilance guardian : 3458.77 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvane Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 You may not be getting as many PPA procs > hence rail shots in. The more rail shots you get in, the more heat you vent and the less rapid shots you will need. Every Rail shot is a net -15.5 heat...every power shot is a net 8.5 heat so if you do the math you can get nearly 2 more power shots in place of rapid shots for every extra rail shot you squeeze into your rotation. Proc'ing PPA as close to every 6s as possible is extremely important, occasionally it will take an extra GCD, so 7.5s to proc it, if it ever takes longer than that, you should adjust your rotation. I must be doing something horribly wrong then because I have horrid heat/ammo management even getting rail shot/HiB in every six seconds. I didnt know it gave back 15.5 though, thought it only gave 8. Guess I'll have to try it some more again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandellon Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) I didnt know it gave back 15.5 though, thought it only gave 8. Guess I'll have to try it some more again. It's 8, plus 1.5x5 of your natural regeneration Edited November 26, 2013 by Shandellon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paowee Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I heard from a guildie that they are adding a "killable" ops dummy with an armor debuff on it? o_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyroman Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I heard from a guildie that they are adding a "killable" ops dummy with an armor debuff on it? o_O indeed, you can set it's health to 500k, 1mil, and 1.5mil health and you can also get an armor debuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulvanysdjm Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Muldoon - Guardian - Vigilance - 4/36/6 - 3231.22 @ 304 seconds Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/506145/9/0/Damage+Dealt AMR: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/e8dbce8f-d58f-4eee-a2d3-ade3998870e6 Edited November 27, 2013 by mulvanysdjm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falver Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 Thread is updated for posterity. If any of you have interest in taking over this thread, please send me a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diadox Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Pizza'dah'hutt - Mercenary - Pyro - 2/8/36 - 3720.40 Log Link: http://www.torparse.com/a/502961/time/1385241189/1385241501/0/Damage+Dealt AMR Profile: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/78e41180-946f-4445-b4e3-d26f3d7407f7 If I may I ask (assuming the spec in the amr is the one you're using), why don't you pick up the alacrity in System Calibrations? At first I assumed it had to do with the fact that alacrity might mess with the 6 sec ICD of PPA, but isn't that already the case with the alacrity you get from Rapid Venting? I don't play the class and spec in pve, just asking out of curiosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odawgg Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 If I may I ask (assuming the spec in the amr is the one you're using), why don't you pick up the alacrity in System Calibrations? At first I assumed it had to do with the fact that alacrity might mess with the 6 sec ICD of PPA, but isn't that already the case with the alacrity you get from Rapid Venting? I don't play the class and spec in pve, just asking out of curiosity. You're right that I don't do it cuz of PPA proc timing, the rapid venting doesn't seem to add enough alacrity to cause probs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_Sureshot Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Jurbeke - Sorcerer - Lightning - 3/36/7 - 3245 Parse: http://www.torparse.com/a/506538/time/1385541906/1385542235/0/Overview AMR(Updated) : http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/a773265c-a29f-4b1f-b5a8-f860a3049102 Edited November 27, 2013 by a_Sureshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulvanysdjm Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Muldoon - Guardian - Vigilance - 4/36/6 - 3323.49 @ 332 seconds Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/506562/6/0/Damage+Dealt AMR: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/e8dbce8f-d58f-4eee-a2d3-ade3998870e6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diadox Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 You're right that I don't do it cuz of PPA proc timing, the rapid venting doesn't seem to add enough alacrity to cause probs. Alright, cool. Thanks for the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooduckAUS Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) Kk, this time with no existing procs.... Myhealintoon - TK Sage - 3/36/7 3271 dps http://www.torparse.com/a/510034/time/1386027214/1386027522/0/Overview Still only a 72 mainhand..... http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/3e03dcae-ed1e-42c6-8f14-43f9c8a48a15 Edited December 3, 2013 by WooduckAUS New parse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgehemi Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Man'In'Black - Mercenary - Pyro - 2/8/36 - 3490.86 Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/507988/time/1385707323/1385707624/0/Overview AMR: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/0e77cf13-5dcf-45f1-ba9e-18a89163cfb9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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