CourtneyWoods Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Beginning September 12, 2013, active Subscribers will receive the first Digital Expansion: Rise of the Hutt Cartel free of charge as a newly added benefit to the Subscriber Rewards Program! Rise of the Hutt Cartel offers the breathtaking planet of Makeb, five new levels of story-driven missions increasing the level cap to 55, and exciting technology devices which unlock valuable rewards. Read More Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNahash Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 um... a title? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mureyu Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Why dont everyone get the coins instead of those that are just getting it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoloTweed Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I have a feeling that - like many things - this won't go over well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSpiriah Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 How about giving the Cartel Coins to all subscribers who already purchased the expansion, regardless of when they did it? Giving "The Risen" only to early buyers is okay, but I think they also deserve a little bit more than just an in-game vanity item, especially if compared to the benefits for recent buyers. Otherwise, I am fine with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalshic Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 That's awesome! Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebergy Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 (edited) um... a title? Really? My first thought is that the title is really lackluster. My second was that they really don't owe us anything and its nice to get something at all. But my third thought is pretty much the same as yours 'a title, really?' Honestly they might as well have just given us nothing. My fourth thought is: 'wait, why are people that are buying the expansion 6 months late getting CCs and I, a loyal customer who preordered it, am not?' Sigh. Oh well, its really not worth getting annoyed about. Edited September 10, 2013 by Icebergy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthTHC Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 (edited) I came here thinking, "This is going to be so entertaining." And it will be. Oh yes. It will be. Rewarding late adopters and non-adopters to a far greater degree than early adopters ensures the entertainment value of this decision and this thread. Edited September 10, 2013 by DarthTHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelipeMKG Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Really? An all new title? Wow, thx bioware... I mean... WOW!!! Can I trade that for cartel coins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalshic Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 My first thought is that the title is really lackluster. My second was that they really don't owe us anything and its nice to get something at all. But my third thought is pretty much the same as yours 'a title, really?' Honestly they might as well have just given us nothing. My first thought was people will complain about anything. My second thought was people will complain that they now have more people to play with and more people to group with for things. My third thought is you purchased it earlier and are now progressively further than the people just now getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkTangent Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 (edited) So you're telling me as a Day 1 subscriber, I just bought a $10 title? Even after pre-ordering RoTHC back during it's initial release? Edited September 10, 2013 by SparkTangent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamapark Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 How about fixing the issue where those of us that have paid can't access our main toons for three days now? I'd rather you focus on that than sucking up to those that don't want to spend more money getting a "damaged product". You are rapidly making paid customers look elsewhere for their gaming entertainment (and you don't even seem to care). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNahash Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Sigh. Oh well, its really not worth getting annoyed about. No, it's not. After we got what we paid for. The gift just seems so... insignificant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebergy Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 So you're telling me as a Day 1 subscriber, I just bought a $10 title? Even after pre-ordering RoTHC back during it's initial release? You paid for 6 months of access to RotHC. The title is pretty insignificant, but at least keep your complaints in perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mleischer Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 So you're telling me as a Day 1 subscriber, I just bought a $10 title? Even after pre-ordering RoTHC back during it's initial release? Um, you got to play it for 6 months that you otherwise wouldn't have been able to. Besides, if $10 is such a huge deal, maybe you shouldn't be playing MMO's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bought_by_Blood Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 This is an absolute joke. I mean I appreciate Bioware trying to bring new players and new subs into the game I love, the more players the better, but you really have to stop treating your loyal customers like crap. We payed for the game. A few months later everyone else got it for free, we got a crappy title. We payed for the expansion, now people are getting it free, we get another crappy title. Figure it out. It is embarrassing to your company how badly you have handled this sort of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalshic Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 How about fixing the issue where those of us that have paid can't access our main toons for three days now? I'd rather you focus on that than sucking up to those that don't want to spend more money getting a "damaged product". You are rapidly making paid customers look elsewhere for their gaming entertainment (and you don't even seem to care). You realize it was probably a different department than the developers that decided to give the expansion to subscribers, right? So while they could be working on that someone else can give out an expansion for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qvasar Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 My fourth thought is: 'wait, why are people that are buying the expansion 6 months late getting CCs and I, a loyal customer who preordered it, am not?' This is the point that needs to be addressed. Granted Bioware doesn't owe us anything. However, rewarding the recent (late) purchases while completely ignoring the loyal customers who preordered on day #1 is not a smart move. It antagonizes the customers and whenever another expansion is released they will most likely not pre-order and wait and see what happens... My simple suggestion: Give the1050CC to everyone who purchased RoTHC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderKeeva Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 (edited) If you were ever going to offer this up for free, you should have said as much before. In essence, everyone who bought RotHC before the day after tomorrow (not to mention those of us who pre-ordered it in December) just bought 5 months of early access. Even if you didn't know the exact date of when this was going free, you should have been up front with your customers and let us know that eventually it would become free. I believe everyone who bought RotHC before it becomes free would be more deserving of that 1050 Cartel Coins. Who would you expect to buy it now anyways if it's going F2P in two days? I'll take what I can get (in this case a title to my already miles long list of useless titles) but once again, I'm thoroughly disappointed with how Bioware handles its customers. Edited September 10, 2013 by CommanderKeeva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalshic Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 (edited) This is the point that needs to be addressed. Granted Bioware doesn't owe us anything. However, rewarding the recent (late) purchases while completely ignoring the loyal customers who preordered on day #1 is not a smart move. It antagonizes the customers and whenever another expansion is released they will most likely not pre-order and wait and see what happens... My simple suggestion: Give the1050CC to everyone who purchased RoTHC. Makes perfect sense to me, they just bought it and its now free. Usually things come with money back guarantees for short periods. You had the expansion for 6 months and could get a head start on everything. None of this really affects you if you bought it 6 months ago. The only thing you'll see is more people that are level 55 and you can play with. Is that SO bad? f you were ever going to offer this up for free, you should have said as much before. In essence, everyone who bought RotHC before the day after tomorrow (not to mention those of us who pre-ordered it in December) just bought 5 months of early access. Even if you didn't know the exact date of when this was going free, you should have been up front with your customers and let us know that eventually it would become free. I believe everyone who bought RotHC before it becomes free would be more deserving of that 1050 Cartel Coins. Who is going to buy it now anyway if it's going F2P in two days? I'll take what I can get (in this case a title to my already miles long list of useless titles) but once again, I'm thoroughly disappointed with how Bioware handles its customers. Do you HONESTLY think they thought they'd be giving it away for free 6 months ago? Do you also think they planned to make this game f2p? They're changes made for the better and to keep the game alive. If you want a dead game then yeah, make everyone pay. If you don't then why are you complaining about something that doesn't affect you? Edited September 10, 2013 by Kalshic reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homsikpanda Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 (edited) My first thought is that the title is really lackluster. My second was that they really don't owe us anything and its nice to get something at all. But my third thought is pretty much the same as yours 'a title, really?' Honestly they might as well have just given us nothing. My fourth thought is: 'wait, why are people that are buying the expansion 6 months late getting CCs and I, a loyal customer who preordered it, am not?' Sigh. Oh well, its really not worth getting annoyed about. you got to do the expansion for 6 months, get a lvl 55 character and all the perks, probably several characters. wheres the new people (like myself ) bought it less then a month ago and probably haven't even had a chance to even use it yet (my highest character is 42) and to have it now free less then a month later was a waste of $10, i feel that giving me the $10 amount of cartel coins to offset my purchase of the expansion is appropriate (it's within the 30 day return policy that 99% of stores these days have after all ) look at it like you paid $10 for a 5 month head start above everybody else. also, question to devs: what happens if/when my subscription runs out? do i lose access to the hutt cartel? edit: butt hurt early subscribers who want cartel coins to offset 5 months worth of entertainment make me lol at their logic. i'll give you my 1050 cartel coins if you give me 5 months of overtime at my job Edited September 10, 2013 by homsikpanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebram Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 (edited) Yeah it seems like if people that bought it in the past month get cartel coins everyone that has purchased in should get coins.. that seems really crappy.. A head start doesnt mean anything.. if i could have gotten it for free i wouldnt have paid for it regardless of the wait Edited September 10, 2013 by Tenebram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazarov Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Just give every subscriber that bought and/or pre-ordered the expansion the same amount of cartel coins that you're offering to the new buyers. You can even keep the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothematic Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Why don't we subscribers who already bought it get the coins? Seems a bit unfair seeing as we paid for it too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamapark Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 You realize it was probably a different department than the developers that decided to give the expansion to subscribers, right? So while they could be working on that someone else can give out an expansion for free. I fully understand this, but it would be nice to see that those of us unable to play our toons will get some kind of compensation for the frustration (or even acknowledgement it's happening) instead of seeing them just giving away the game. The handling of this latest patch and the ensuing problems does not go over well when they turn right around and give away the game. Makes one wonder if they actually care about those that have faithfully paid to play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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