Winteroreo Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I have seen quite a few mentions of heatseaking middles hitting this hard. I am in full partisan gear(no augments) and. I hit for 3000 max. How are u guys getting 10k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Maybe you are confusing Tracer Missile for Heatseeker Missiles? A non-crit for me is ~4-5k. I will crit in the 8-10k range often. You should min/max for Power/Surge in your gear, and get Aim augments. This will increase your damage output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmehSolo Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 One other pretty important note is that you have to have a tracer missile stack (of your own) on your target to do any kind of reasonable damage with heatseekers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winteroreo Posted September 7, 2013 Author Share Posted September 7, 2013 I do usually keep this in mind but I often stray from the rotation ill try these out thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I do usually keep this in mind but I often stray from the rotation ill try these out thanks Theres not much use for a real rotation in PvP, but you *always* want to get a Tracer Missile on your target before using your heavy hitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slicksteezin Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 My guess is you are confusing Heatseeker with another ability if it's hitting for 3k. With the proper tracer stacks i usually get 9 - 11.5k Heatseeker crits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choffware Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I do usually keep this in mind but I often stray from the rotation ill try these out thanks For heat seaker there is not much of a rotation... 1 tm then heat seaker that's it... Since 2.0 you get the full HS damage bonus with one tm. 3 tm are required for rail shot max bonus assuming you are spec'ed properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetideus Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) I have seen quite a few mentions of heatseaking middles hitting this hard. I am in full partisan gear(no augments) and. I hit for 3000 max. How are u guys getting 10k. 75% Surge, tracer missile, >2800 Aim. Edited September 16, 2013 by Aetideus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetideus Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) For heat seaker there is not much of a rotation... 1 tm then heat seaker that's it... Since 2.0 you get the full HS damage bonus with one tm. 3 tm are required for rail shot max bonus assuming you are spec'ed properly. 2 tm for rail. Edited September 16, 2013 by Aetideus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetideus Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 3 tm are required for rail shot max bonus assuming you are spec'ed properly. 2 tm for rail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winteroreo Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 My guess is you are confusing Heatseeker with another ability if it's hitting for 3k. With the proper tracer stacks i usually get 9 - 11.5k Heatseeker crits its definitely Heatseeker. and after checking a again I can tell it hits for 4k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winteroreo Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 For heat seaker there is not much of a rotation... 1 tm then heat seaker that's it... Since 2.0 you get the full HS damage bonus with one tm. 3 tm are required for rail shot max bonus assuming you are spec'ed properly. yeah this is what I meant I don't always use tm first. I know its a bad habit tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choffware Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 2 tm for rail. Um no. you need 5 stacks of tracer lock to get the maximum rail shot bonus. You need to apply 3 tms to get 5 stacks. We weren't talking about what might be heat efficient. We were talking about the biggest hit potentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 its definitely Heatseeker. and after checking a again I can tell it hits for 4k. With full 72's heatseeker can crit for 10k with power relic proc'd. With the 30% expertise damage boost (60% boost - 30% target mitigation) I can easily see Heatseeker hitting just as hard in PvP. In fact al lot of server records threads have commando/mercs listed in biggest hit category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvane Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 With full 72's heatseeker can crit for 10k with power relic proc'd. With the 30% expertise damage boost (60% boost - 30% target mitigation) I can easily see Heatseeker hitting just as hard in PvP. In fact al lot of server records threads have commando/mercs listed in biggest hit category. In pvp with the expertise buff demo/heatseeker does 11~12k range, 10k is pretty common in pvp situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winteroreo Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 With full 72's heatseeker can crit for 10k with power relic proc'd. With the 30% expertise damage boost (60% boost - 30% target mitigation) I can easily see Heatseeker hitting just as hard in PvP. In fact al lot of server records threads have commando/mercs listed in biggest hit category. I know its supposed to hit harder Im just saying that's how hard It hits for me. The number was an estimate based on the numbers I,ve seen. I know ive never hit 5k or above I'd just like to know what everyone else is doing with their stats to make it hit that hard. Another question I have is what type of augments I should get. Aim, Surge, or Power. ive been hearing that crit sucks lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choffware Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Yes crit is useless to stack now. You'll get enough from aim and talents. For pvp (it will differ for pve) you want to: 1) have just enough accuracy to have 95% ranged (some people will argue more or less) 2) then stack power and surge on every mod and enhancement and use all aim augments. 3) If you are 50+ and if you still have one of the pure power relics from the elite war hero sets equip that with the power surge relic. If you don't have the elite war hero relics then just use another one that applies the dot... 4) For weapons you can either use the conqueror weapons (power and surge modded with aim augments) or you can use a shell with pvp level 66 mods barrel and enhancement and a 41+ power crystal. The pve weapon will give you a little more dps and the pvp weapon more survivability. It's a trade off. Bolster will take care of the lack of expertise on these pve weapons. If you go higher than level 66 mods I think bolster drops you below the dps of the top pvp weapons. 5) Make sure you augment everything including implant, ear pieces and relics. Edited September 17, 2013 by Choffware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvane Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I know its supposed to hit harder Im just saying that's how hard It hits for me. The number was an estimate based on the numbers I,ve seen. I know ive never hit 5k or above I'd just like to know what everyone else is doing with their stats to make it hit that hard. Another question I have is what type of augments I should get. Aim, Surge, or Power. ive been hearing that crit sucks lately. Aim augments in all slots and yes crit sucks. Stat wise get a full set of pvp gear first off, power mods, power/surge enhancements, power/acc implants, power surge ear, serendipitous assault relic + whatever else you want to use in the 2nd slot. With that set up i don't usually have any competition for top dps/dmg outside of the occasional dot slinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winteroreo Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 So im making progress and my heatseaker crits now hit for around 7k (Thanks for all the help ) Id just like to ask were do you get the power and surge enhancements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 In pvp with the expertise buff demo/heatseeker does 11~12k range, 10k is pretty common in pvp situations. I would not say 11k to 12k are common tho, 10k is more standard. The 12k are only really with power relic procced on a unguarded unbubbled sage. 11k is attainable occasionally to in PvE with top gear I'm willing to bet that 12k can be done in kell dragon. (if only I had some) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerinnAybara Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 You guys are all forgetting we have a frikking 30% surge talent to the ability. Meaning when we crit, we do more then twice the base damage. Which isn't the case for other classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvane Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 So im making progress and my heatseaker crits now hit for around 7k (Thanks for all the help ) Id just like to ask were do you get the power and surge enhancements. Power/Surge enhancements are on Combat Medic Chest/Gloves/Off-hand and Eliminator Boots/Main-Hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KainrycKarr Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 My merc is in full partisan with 4-5 purple 55 augments and the hardest ive hit is about 8500 with HS. How do I get that last 1500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvane Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 My merc is in full partisan with 4-5 purple 55 augments and the hardest ive hit is about 8500 with HS. How do I get that last 1500? Finish augmenting all your gear and min/maxing the mods/enhancements and it will make a noticeable difference I'd bet. To be honest though it's all about finding a soft target to smack with your HS, rule of thumb is if your grav is hitting them for over 5k you can probably get a 10k hit rather easily on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KainrycKarr Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Finish augmenting all your gear and min/maxing the mods/enhancements and it will make a noticeable difference I'd bet. To be honest though it's all about finding a soft target to smack with your HS, rule of thumb is if your grav is hitting them for over 5k you can probably get a 10k hit rather easily on them. Thanks for the advice. Guess I'll have to wait til 2.4 for the 10k's, as there's no point in min-maxing atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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