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Now that you are removing ranked wz and introducing arenas, maybe it's a good time to balance wz pugs.

The simple thing to do is to increase the number of people in it. In the current setup, you're always going to loose if your team doesn't have a healer and they have two of them.

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They definitely need to balance out the classes in the 8v8 pugs. Yesterday I played against a team of 6 tanks (***?) and needless to say it was a stomping. And those guys were not bad, they were pretty good actually, they just couldn't kill any of us. 4 of them jumped me and couldn't kill me which I think is complete BS.

 

Each team should have at least 1 tank at least 1 healer and no more than 2 of either. But the shortage of tanks will unfortunately lead to long queue times.

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I've "tried" to play 8 games today just to end up against a premade in every one of them. Yes, every single one. I even switched faction, just to end up against the premades on the pub side.

 

I've come to the conclusion that the fact that they are indeed premades isnt the worst part. The worst part is that premades usually carry way better classes than pugs. As a pug you'll risk ending up with 6 sorcs, which I just did, and it doesnt really matter what you're up against in that scenario, as long as they don't have an equally crappy composition, because they will win by deault. Now, before someone says that "oh 6 sorcs can win". Yes. 6 good sorcs but the average pug is far from good, meaning that they would be more useful on any other class. I watched five of them pile up and get sweaped to death by two sents in the first 20 seconds. Awesome. I usually don't quit but I made an exception there, I really should have quit in the spawn but I gave it the benefit of doubt (which fails every time)

 

With arenas it's going to be ten times worse because then you'll be stuck with 3 sorcs/sages in a 4 vs 4 mode . Atleast it will be over fast. The next update should include shorter loading times because that's going to make up for 75 % of the time you "play" as a pug in arenas.

 

Also, get rid of backfill so that games that are and will be complete steamrolls, due to this failure of a queue system, can be over faster. And stop throwing people into the games they just left.

Edited by MidichIorian
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