Pathlight- Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 I recently transferred off cause the mindblowing mediocrity of sub 55 imp pugs was just too much to bear. I'm now on a pve server and really enjoy the pvp here. Most pugs know how to work together, know how to play their classes and how to follow objectives. However, I'm getting the world pvp itch and thinking of transferring back. I am now lvl 55. But I do want to keep my sanity so I'd like to know if lvl 55 imp pvp is the same cluster**** as lowbies or if it is more balanced. The more answers the better.
ToMyMa Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 I recently transferred off cause the mindblowing mediocrity of sub 55 imp pugs was just too much to bear. I'm now on a pve server and really enjoy the pvp here. Most pugs know how to work together, know how to play their classes and how to follow objectives. However, I'm getting the world pvp itch and thinking of transferring back. I am now lvl 55. But I do want to keep my sanity so I'd like to know if lvl 55 imp pvp is the same cluster**** as lowbies or if it is more balanced. The more answers the better. They suck balls. Just like the last few months
Pathlight- Posted August 18, 2013 Author Posted August 18, 2013 They suck balls. Just like the last few months Lol. Short and concise. Thanks for saving me 17€
Sammennn Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 Republic have their fair share of retarded monkeys aswell. Get to know friends in TOFN, group up and win. Only reason why republic wins more than imperials is because we premade more, nothing less and nothing more.
Pathlight- Posted August 18, 2013 Author Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) Republic have their fair share of retarded monkeys aswell. Get to know friends in TOFN, group up and win. Only reason why republic wins more than imperials is because we premade more, nothing less and nothing more. I did premade successfully but 4 bad pugs are often enough to lose a game. Plus, guildies are not always available for pvp. I agree that reps have a lot of tards (played it for some time) but imp pugs are easily 10 times as bad. Edited August 18, 2013 by Pathlight-
Sammennn Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) I did premade successfully but 4 bad pugs are often enough to lose a game. Plus, guildies are not always available for pvp. I agree that reps have a lot of tards (played it for some time) but imp pugs are easily 10 times as bad. Imp pugs aren't "10 times as bad" because you hardly see any rep pugs like I stated above; Republic is dominated by premades. That is why we win. Imperials hardly group up and imagine 8 uncoordinated players playing a warzone together, it doesn't always add up. Republic has, again like I stated above, their massive ******* like Imperials do. Edited August 18, 2013 by Sammennn
szczypaczek Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 Don't que solo by the weekend you will lose your sanity.
zhradik Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 anyway republic pugs much more better then imperial
Hiltingp Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 anyway republic pugs much more better then imperial oh I wouldnt say so
AngusFTW Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) Pugs suck doesnt matter what faction. You are more likely to run into a premade solo queueing imp and are almost guaranteed to have the worst pugs in the process.. this is why people are like omg imp side so bad at pvp.. but queue with a premade and you can get by quite easily tbh. Edited August 19, 2013 by AngusFTW
Pathlight- Posted August 19, 2013 Author Posted August 19, 2013 Imp pugs aren't "10 times as bad" because you hardly see any rep pugs like I stated above; Republic is dominated by premades. That is why we win. Imperials hardly group up and imagine 8 uncoordinated players playing a warzone together, it doesn't always add up. Republic has, again like I stated above, their massive ******* like Imperials do. Dude, sorry but you don't know what you are talking about. I have pugged and ran premades extensively on both sides and there is definitely a skill imbalance. Notice I didn't say a composition imbalance. I didn't say I lose more on imp side. Losing is fine of your team tries their best but the other side is simply better geared and organized. The problem is not premade v pug, the problem is that imp side is full of kids wannabee Darth Vaders who do not have the slightest grasp of objective based pvp and do not know how to play their classes other than "I mash whichever button lights up". Not calling incs, not responding to incs, bashing on the jugg tank 2 m away from the node while an enemy is capping it and not interrupting him... Those are not the result of a lack of synchronization or facing a premade. These are the results of people who have no idea whatsoever of how to pvp. I have played on 5 severe since lauch, imp and rep and only on tofn imp side have I seen such a level of incompetence in pugs. Add to that the fact that many don't understand English and you have a recipe for disaster. This is not an indictment of the entire imp tofn population of course. There are many exceptional players but the average player skill level is abysmal.
MasterBLASTERpl Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 No, no mate. If you don't have time for the guild stuff, coz full time job, rl commitment you name it, and so you mostly q solo in very different hours - stay away from ToFN, it's biohazard, mind wrecking stuff if you try imp side. I would rather start a new legacy on the Pot5 with ping 150 instead 50, then go back anytime soon on tofn. On TRE you can at least expect that 'pub side will be bad or imp will be decent. On ToFN it's either way decent-to-good pubs or medicore-to-bad imps. It's not even premade stuff, pubs in general are trying to play objective, call incs. On imp side it's some mindless smashing anyone who is red even if he's 1 km from doors, turret with some magical jedi-ish trick so when he's stuned it's also affecting his keyboard and brain if he has one. Doing weeklies can be a nightmare if you don't have friends on your side and even so just as sb says - premade plus 4 bad pugs can spoil the fun so it's not an always working 'i-won' solution. Plus i don't have to read GC swarmed with all this trash-non-english-talk. TL;DR If you are chosing imp side on ToFN or transfering toon: "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here."
duigha Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 ^ Uff, exhausting post ^ But sadly, true enough. Where comes to the Rep side, you do NOT get automatic chance of wins, though. When I play my Rep charrs I VERY often play wargames Reps vs Reps, which is skill demanding. Changing sides is not a solution, for the record.
Sammennn Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 Losing is fine of your team tries their best but the other side is simply better geared and organized. Totally true. But you think we don't have the fair share amount of ******* running around wanting to be LUKE SKAJWALKAH? One guild on Rep side that is perfect example of ultimate incompetence is Made in Italy. If you get members of that guild, I'd recommend leaving the match ASAP because their guild is mostly known for capping objectives then leaving it unguarded or just being plain simply bad.
szczypaczek Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 Totally true. But you think we don't have the fair share amount of ******* running around wanting to be LUKE SKAJWALKAH? One guild on Rep side that is perfect example of ultimate incompetence is Made in Italy. If you get members of that guild, I'd recommend leaving the match ASAP because their guild is mostly known for capping objectives then leaving it unguarded or just being plain simply bad. Galactic lights and their smashers doing 4k sweeps
Kadjunga Posted August 21, 2013 Posted August 21, 2013 Damn... I was considering moving over to the eu servers but the only toons i play are imp toons... PVE servers are way too boring but coming over to a server where there are only scrubs that dont know jack **** if you queue solo is... disheartening to say the least. Is it really that bad to play on imp side when you pug it and the only choice is to find friends + superqueue?
jcooke Posted August 21, 2013 Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) My own 2p here for what it's worth. Over the past couple of weeks I've played both imp and pub sides both 10-29 and above (not max level) and the difference is baffling. I've won and lost with both but the ratio is heavily skewed in republics favour. I'd never before have advocated picking one side over another but then I'd never seen the Tomb Of Freedon Nadd in all its bad glory. I'm sure running with a group will net you an easier time but if you are leveling and solo queuing, imp is hazardous to your health. Edited August 21, 2013 by jcooke
MidichIorian Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) The problem with the imps side is that few of the potentially good players and players from the more prominent guilds arent playing the objective unless they're in premades. Actually, not even sure if they're playing the objective much in premades in normal matchmaking, the wins seem to be more of an outcome of simply killing the other team. I don't get how someone can go from playing on an organized rated team to totally ignoring the objective when pugging, that whole thing doesnt exist in my world and I was raging hard when my clan-mates would **** around like that in normal matchmaking in other games. If you start doing that **** it's going to carry over to games where you're actually forced to play the objective and focus. Noticed that one of the, IMO, garbage team players had joined Coral. Good luck with that, you'll never see that guy carrying the ball or throwing an off-heal. Edited August 22, 2013 by MidichIorian
keeroo Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) Have to defend imp pugs here... My Bounty Hunter in 55-bracket warzones is already on hold in PVP because of this mindblowing madness of pugs. Really... play on your own, otherwise you won't understand this unbelievable madness... However, I started a sniper and played the last 3 days with pugs in the [10-32] bracket. I almost won every game !!! No madness at all, people knowing what to do in every warzone. And if the warzone was lost, it was at least a challenging fight until the last minutes. Maybe this is caused by the many new "Founder"-nameplates and black-yellow colored wepaons that arise everywhere. I think, the faction madness gets a new hit of population by old pugs returning to the game and rebalancing the factions... Edited August 22, 2013 by keeroo
hallucigenocide Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) the only way to stand a chance as imp is to grab one or 2 guildies. preferably more but 1-2 can make a huge difference just because you then atleast know that someone will listen.. other than that your only other chance is on those rare occasions when it's imp vs imp republic are'nt all that great either but they tend to allways have healers that can stand around a free cast all day long Edited August 23, 2013 by hallucigenocide
TheRampage Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 I'm not playing Imp alone ever again. Last few days are worst experience I've had in game, and I'm playing since start. Pointless, and brainless comunity of Imps on this server seems to be at peak
Copperheadr Posted August 25, 2013 Posted August 25, 2013 Of course allowing premades vs pugs make it MUCH MUCH worse.
Aerilas Posted August 25, 2013 Posted August 25, 2013 I'm not playing Imp alone ever again. Last few days are worst experience I've had in game, and I'm playing since start. Pointless, and brainless comunity of Imps on this server seems to be at peak Try lvling a sniper through mostly soloqueueing.... and people ask why its going so slow Only doing pvp
AngusFTW Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) I would just like to state, this morning i solo queued for a wz on my marauder.. as annihilation against pubs. I prepared the lube as i noticed that 6 of my pugs had 1500 expertise or less and i wasnt playing smash but screw it i needed only 1 wz played and it was 30 mins before reset who cares.. let them have there way with us and 3 cap. We won the wz pretty decisvely against a pub pugs with 6 imps with 1500 expertise. Pub pugs are just as bad if not worse! Basically me and this other mara on the team where probably the only people in wz with 2018 expertise with bolster. (and god help the rep pugs if they did have 2018 expertise) basically pugs suck and all have a perception problem. Edited August 26, 2013 by AngusFTW
ToMyMa Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 I would just like to state, this morning i solo queued for a wz on my marauder.. as annihilation against pubs. I prepared the lube as i noticed that 6 of my pugs had 1500 expertise or less and i wasnt playing smash but screw it i needed only 1 wz played and it was 30 mins before reset who cares.. let them have there way with us and 3 cap. We won the wz pretty decisvely against a pub pugs with 6 imps with 1500 expertise. Pub pugs are just as bad if not worse! Basically me and this other mara on the team where probably the only people in wz with 2018 expertise with bolster. (and god help the rep pugs if they did have 2018 expertise) basically pugs suck and all have a perception problem. Pretty much this... But I had a warzone where the imps where had tunnel visionenza... They beat us soooo much in kills, but when we were attacking (it was a VS), we capped within the first 30 seconds... Gotta love pugs. And remember to make them pay of they attack you!
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