EpickFaill Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Hi guys,i am sure this was asked 100 of times late,but can u say why the **** every time what we would not make the empire losses and the reps are only winning?
EpickFaill Posted August 15, 2013 Author Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) look this i have not indicated, until level 54 empire/republic is qual about lose/win matches,but at 55 i alerdy played 20 or more pvp's and only 2 or 3 won(i am empire side ) Edited August 15, 2013 by EpickFaill
Technohic Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Still not exactly clear. Are you saying the Pubs are beating the Imps most of the time? What server? Either way; I can tell you there is no advantage to one side from another. Sometimes you just have a bigger pool of idiots in the one faction over the other at any given time. Some weekends, I can't buy a win on pub side on Pot5 but weekdays, its almost too easy.
Skylancewalker Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Wow. "The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 5 characters."
Xanas Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 w8 I don't get it. What are you asking for? If you see you are losing a game EXIT IT and then que again and hope the next group of people are not that stupid as the last. That is the only tip I can give you.
EpickFaill Posted August 15, 2013 Author Posted August 15, 2013 OK i will try to make my self more explicit server-Tomb of Freedom Naa'd(PvP Server) charachter-level 55 jugg tank/level 55 operative healer The problem is,i love the PvP and will love it even with the new changes,i run over 20-30 PvP's a day,with my jugg untill level 54 the balance amoung the wined/losseed matches was the same beetwen empire and the republic,but from level 55 even if i have full partisan gear we are loosing everytime+the guys i play are too saying that they lose a looooot,and from 20-25 pvp matches played today the empire won only 4 mathches,and it happens every time we get beaten by the reps,so i ask what is this that less that of 1/5 of matches we are just loosing and the reps are tearing us apart??
Xanas Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 I am from TOFN and I play on reps side... I win about 50% of games... More if you don't count the games I am leaving when I notice I can't win... My advice? Is the same as above. if you see that you are losing LEAVE THE GAME and then que again... Try playing at different hours... If you notice you are stuck with a bunch of people in each game and you are losing then... Well LEAVE A GAME and que again or after a game ends w8 some 5 mins before quing again. From what I can see the win/loss ratio for this server is somewhat ok. Before the servers transfers the reps where winning A LOT MORE but after it balanced out.
Technohic Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) They're better than you. Seriously. Not being mean cause there are plenty out there that are better than me. it only makes it worse when their entire team is better than your entire team. You need to stop being a try-hard more than likely and start paying attention to what they are doing to see if you can find something you should be doing as well. Fear not. Solo ranked should help. Edited August 15, 2013 by Technohic
MidichIorian Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) Pubs have dominated normal warzones on tofn as long as I've been there (correlation? JK JK I'm not kidding). The reason lowbie is more balanced is because it has even more idiots than 55 (Iknow, how's that even possible?). More idiots means more mistakes which leads to more RNG, meaning that any side can win. Oh and as a general rule you don't have to fight premades in lowbie (give or take the ***** who think it's a good idea to form a lowbie premade at 4 AM). They're better than you. To be fair, pug-zones as a lvl 55 imp on tofn are pretty grim. Edited August 15, 2013 by MidichIorian
ManiacDavis Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Learn from your mistakes, play smarter, and carry your team.
Xanas Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Learn from your mistakes, play smarter, and carry your team. 1 man can make a difference but can't carry a team.
Technohic Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) 1 man can make a difference but can't carry a team. That you can't. But if everyone learns a little something then it won't be as bad the next time. Problem is, people don't learn. They usualyl just keep running head on into the slaughter. Edited August 15, 2013 by Technohic
Xanas Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 That you can't. But if everyone learns a little something then it won't be as bad the next time. Problem is, people don't learn. They usualyl just keep running head on into the slaughter. Speaking of that I am so happy I am not healer. Having warriors/knights jump in the middle of the pack, getting killed and then yelling at you why you did not heal them must be getting really old really fast
Technohic Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Speaking of that I am so happy I am not healer. Having warriors/knights jump in the middle of the pack, getting killed and then yelling at you why you did not heal them must be getting really old really fast OMG> I quit playing all healer classes in PUGs. just too painful. If I had a group I'd be running with, I'd be more than happy to run a sage.
sithBracer Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Speaking of that I am so happy I am not healer. Having warriors/knights jump in the middle of the pack, getting killed and then yelling at you why you did not heal them must be getting really old really fast I must be a masochist because I play 2 healers, one sorc and one op. It can get ... interesting especially when you have to face 3 smashers working together and no guards-even though you have 2 PTs on your and a jugg on your team. I remember when I did an op I saw a marauder leap right next to me (the boss teleported next to me) and I immediately tab + slow and tried to get away from the marauder before remember that this is PvE and he's on my team.
MidichIorian Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Speaking of that I am so happy I am not healer. Having warriors/knights jump in the middle of the pack, getting killed and then yelling at you why you did not heal them must be getting really old really fast If you on the other hand actually heal those classes they'll be invincible.
Darth_Precursor Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 Just roll an operative and carry your team. If you can't win a huttball 6-0 as an operative you're doing it wrong.
Evolixe Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) 1 man can make a difference but can't carry a team. Huttball + Darkness Assassin wants a word with you. Edited August 16, 2013 by Evolixe
Shakhaar Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 OMG> I quit playing all healer classes in PUGs. just too painful. If I had a group I'd be running with, I'd be more than happy to run a sage. It really depends on the scenario. Some games the enemy team leaves me alone, and I can heal my team completely unchallenged, most games 1-2 DPS end up going all try hard on me, and on rare occasions the enemy team is so well coordinated that you die within a stun or two. On topic: There isn't really that much you can do to compensate for an unequal skill distribution. I play on The Ebon Hawk, and you very rarely, if ever see Pubs win. I think about 80% of my Imp v Pub games were wins (Imp v Imp is another story though). The only thing you can do is try and coordinate your team and make sure that you are doing the maximum on your part. Apart from that you can also reroll to a spec which is in abundance on your side - for instance if you lack good healers, roll an Operative/Sorc etc.
Lortemand Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 I am from TOFN and I play on reps side... I win about 50% of games... More if you don't count the games I am leaving when I notice I can't win... My advice? Is the same as above. if you see that you are losing LEAVE THE GAME and then que again... Try playing at different hours... If you notice you are stuck with a bunch of people in each game and you are losing then... Well LEAVE A GAME and que again or after a game ends w8 some 5 mins before quing again. From what I can see the win/loss ratio for this server is somewhat ok. Before the servers transfers the reps where winning A LOT MORE but after it balanced out. leaving a game because you can't win is so lame.
dufox Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) I am from TOFN and I play on reps side... I win about 50% of games... More if you don't count the games I am leaving when I notice I can't win... My advice? Is the same as above. if you see that you are losing LEAVE THE GAME and then que again... Try playing at different hours... If you notice you are stuck with a bunch of people in each game and you are losing then... Well LEAVE A GAME and que again or after a game ends w8 some 5 mins before quing again. From what I can see the win/loss ratio for this server is somewhat ok. Before the servers transfers the reps where winning A LOT MORE but after it balanced out. STOP GIVING ADVICE until you learn a few things. im aware that comes off rather rude and i apologize, but that kind of advice will make people worse players & the thought of someone actually listening to that kind of advice is disturbing. the rest of this is not directed at the person i quoted fun facts: 1. the other players in the warzone are not stupid, some are ignorant & some actually know things you dont. ignorance can be fixed, stupidity cant. (no that's not just a grammar correction... once you understand they are simply ignorant, informing them becomes an option) 2. teach by example. no, 1 person can not carry an entire team. BUT they can sure as hell try. why should you try? because someone on your team will usually notice what your doing (if your truly trying to make a difference) & there is a chance they will learn something... or... get this... someone will notice what you did wrong and then have the ability to teach you something. (sadly i feel the need to point out that teaching / informing is completely different from insulting & raging) 3. if you lose most of your games then YOU are one of the problems (this is hard to accept but its the first step in becoming a better player) 4. IMPORTANT ONE. some classes have an advantage over you, you have advantages over some others. do everything in your power to steer the situation toward your advantages. (that sounds obvious but is sadly not) OP does not mean "cant stop", OP means you need more "skill" to stop. and what is "skill"? its a learning process that will never end. (basically a bucket that can be filled but cant become full) you do not gain "skill" from playing the game, you gain "skill" by analyzing moments within the game (that are usually losses & deaths). everything has a counter, its just a matter of finding it. Edited August 16, 2013 by dufox
Xanas Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) leaving a game because you can't win is so lame. Sorry bud but I have limited time.. Don't care how lame you think this is I am not going to waste my time with: 1-Getting farmed by premade. 2-Having morons in my team that can't even report. 3-Having someone plant a bomb behind half or more of my team's back. 4-having 5 people run to pylon leading us to lose mid and then have them ALL leave pylon and run mid like a punch of morons and of course losing the pylon to.. Etc, etc... The list is huge... Lame? No! Its smart. Thing is you can be the non-lame one and stay there to get farmed by a premade at your spawn point. Have fun with that. I on the other hand have a job and stuff to do when I get home, wasting my time for things I pay does not sit right for me. So am I lame in your view? Can't say I care. @dufox No! Anybody that did not learn basics to the point they got to lvl 55 and did not bother to check online sites for tips on things like: 1-call when income. 2-defened healers. 3-attack healers especially those that are marked. 4-Look at doors at all time. 5-brake from the group and help the guy that is yelling for help. etc...The list is long enough Is a MORON in my book. That or stupid whatever you prefer. Of course you are not going to have the entire team this stupid but when the majority is then leave... This is not about ignorance... You have to be STUPID not to call for INC, you have to be STUPID not to look at what you are defending, you have to be STUPID not to attack healers, you have to be STUPID not to defend your healer and so on... PS. Yes my grammar, spelling, punctuation or whatever else is not that good. Can't say I care if the one I am talking to can understand what I am stating and I don't give him a headache. Edited August 16, 2013 by Xanas
sithBracer Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) Sorry bud but I have limited time.. Don't care how lame you think this is I am not going to waste my time with: 1-Getting farmed by premade. 2-Having morons in my team that can't even report. 3-Having someone plant a bomb behind half or more of my team's back. 4-having 5 people run to pylon leading us to lose mid and then have them ALL leave pylon and run mid like a punch of morons and of course losing the pylon to.. Etc, etc... The list is huge... Lame? No! Its smart. Thing is you can be the non-lame one and stay there to get farmed by a premade at your spawn point. Have fun with that. I on the other hand have a job and stuff to do when I get home, wasting my time for things I pay does not sit right for me. So am I lame in your view? Can't say I care. @dufox No! Anybody that did not learn basics to the point they got to lvl 55 and did not bother to check online sites for tips on things like: 1-call when income. 2-defened healers. 3-attack healers especially those that are marked. 4-Look at doors at all time. 5-brake from the group and help the guy that is yelling for help. etc...The list is long enough Is a MORON in my book. That or stupid whatever you prefer. Of course you are not going to have the entire team this stupid but when the majority is then leave... This is not about ignorance... You have to be STUPID not to call for INC, you have to be STUPID not to look at what you are defending, you have to be STUPID not to attack healers, you have to be STUPID not to defend your healer and so on... PS. Yes my grammar, spelling, punctuation or whatever else is not that good. Can't say I care if the one I am talking to can understand what I am stating and I don't give him a headache. Unfortunately I have to agree with this. I learned all this on my second or third day of PvPing and I still see people in full partisan gear that do not do these things. I also see people who do not augment their gear (not even with blues). I see people who instead of waiting for your team to join you just run into a group of 5 or more trying to cap a node. Although I never ran from a warzone, I believe it is annoying getting farmed by 2 smashers just because a PT/jugg in your group is too busy to press one button to put a guard on me, or to press one button to AOE taunt. Edited August 16, 2013 by sithBracer
dufox Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 Sorry bud but I have limited time.. Don't care how lame you think this is I am not going to waste my time with: 1-Getting farmed by premade. 2-Having morons in my team that can't even report. 3-Having someone plant a bomb behind half or more of my team's back. 4-having 5 people run to pylon leading us to lose mid and then have them ALL leave pylon and run mid like a punch of morons and of course losing the pylon to.. Etc, etc... The list is huge... Lame? No! Its smart. Thing is you can be the non-lame one and stay there to get farmed by a premade at your spawn point. Have fun with that. I on the other hand have a job and stuff to do when I get home, wasting my time for things I pay does not sit right for me. So am I lame in your view? Can't say I care. @dufox No! Anybody that did not learn basics to the point they got to lvl 55 and did not bother to check online sites for tips on things like: 1-call when income. 2-defened healers. 3-attack healers especially those that are marked. 4-Look at doors at all time. 5-brake from the group and help the guy that is yelling for help. etc...The list is long enough Is a MORON in my book. That or stupid whatever you prefer. Of course you are not going to have the entire team this stupid but when the majority is then leave... This is not about ignorance... You have to be STUPID not to call for INC, you have to be STUPID not to look at what you are defending, you have to be STUPID not to attack healers, you have to be STUPID not to defend your healer and so on... PS. Yes my grammar, spelling, punctuation or whatever else is not that good. Can't say I care if the one I am talking to can understand what I am stating and I don't give him a headache. i did a poor job of explaining why i quoted you, i was certainly not trying to tell you that you personally leaving the warzone is wrong or that you need to agree with me about teaching others instead of avoiding them. but advising other people to leave warzones can be disastrous. (especially if the people your trying to stay away from happen to hear someone give advice like that & listen to it)
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