Griftter Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I really wanted to pick back up on my 40 Vanguard. But everything I read is there least desirable spec/tank in both PVE and PVP? Is this true? And if so is there any light at the end of the tunnel with known buffs coming in the next patch? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFSoupy Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 As far as PvE is concerned, guardians are really pretty strong tanks right now. Their threat issues pre 2.0 have been addressed and they got some love in the cd department. Shadows have either gotten spikier or it's just that end game content has more damage spikes. Either way, shadows are typically more of a liability in end game content than the heavy armor wearers. They still have the highest mean mitigation, but they are harder to heal (require more healer attention) than they did pre 2.0. In my opinion, vanguards are kind of the middle of the road tank. The only thing they really lost much of was the rework on adrenaline rush. They are functional if not overly fancy. I would place guardians above vanguards in overall tank class quality, but for end game content, I think they're still preferable to a shadow in most scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griftter Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 Thanks for the Feedback. I apologize I am mostly a PvP player. Would you care to comment on that aspect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFSoupy Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Haven't played in vanguard as a tank in PvP in about a year. So I really don't have much to say in that regard. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyronamics Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 They are usable with success in all areas. They are not the best in any of them but do well enough to be competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim_Grey Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Beware the Hyperbole Dragon, it's well-known to be all over in the SWTOR forums. But even then, most of the comments on Vanguards needing tweaks, or the over the top (over the top because you can play the game well with any spec) "OMG, Vanguards suck now!" are from people looking at Assault spec. And to a lesser extent, Tactics (although I do pretty decent on my Tactics Vanguard in WZs). I haven't heard there being any real issues with Shield Spec in PVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkXXIV Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 They are so bad the class rep resigned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keypek Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 They are decent in pve in all aspects. Not the worst, not the best. In pvp they can do ok in regular warzones. For ranked you're team will be better off if you are playing something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that_Spartan_IV Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Vanguards are terrible IMO, I don't know, it just feels like every other class works in its niche, but the Vanguard just doesn't stand out anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaShuk Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I love my shield tank in both PVE and PVP. In PVE trooper has probably been the most fun class for me to play and I've yet to have any issues with any of the PVE content. However in PVP I've heard once you reach rank Vanguard is not the greatest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macroeconomics Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 >Vanguards are terrible? No. You have a perception problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that_Spartan_IV Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 >Vanguards are terrible? No. You have a perception problem. Ah yes, you are absolutely correct! Sorry for the questions devs, it seems we're just idiots..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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