stockmks Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Just from seeing the trend of prices for some of the better items on the GTN. I remember watching the prices for all the good sets go up and down over the first batch, and in general the equivalents from the second batch seem to be holding higher price levels (closer to a million for chest pieces, lightsabers etc than 500k). This is making me suspect people are buying fewer gamble packs as time goes on... While i've never bought one myself, I actually quite enjoy the massive buff to the GTN minigame that these packs create.. and the fact that the kit is somewhat exclusive and doesn't make you look like you just paid $15 real money for one average item. Maybe some heavily discounted hypercrates should be on order? If i could get a hypercrate for $20 worth of cc's id probably do it. I guess the point of this post is a small nudge to bioware.. common, heat up the item sales again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epixxxx Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I spent more than I ever have on Cartel packs yesterday. Item sales are still on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockmks Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 I spent more than I ever have on Cartel packs yesterday. Item sales are still on track. Nice one. Well, its probably just a change. I'm more active on the GTN with these things until i have all the items im after myself.. guess the best time will be sooner than later after each pack comes out. I'd still be up for a sale though. There just seems to be less supply these days.. on ebon hawk at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramyth Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Some people may of spent money on server transfers, which could cut into their 'budget' (aka how much they like to spend on a game) per month or so. It could have something to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffyburrito Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Eh, not really. It's more about how cool items are when they come out. The first wave of the cartel pack "sets" always seems to be the most profitable because it has entirely new items. The other packs of that set that come out over the next few months have new items still, but also have a lot of recolors or re-tweaked weapons. (For example, the primordial blaster this time around got a holo target added to it to make it more "tech-like") There's still going to be some big sellers this go around. Mira's armor, the new robes, and especially the sarlac pit (I've seen one obtained in 3 hypercrates that have been open among friends/etc.) are going to go for quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkjunior Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Big question is, sell the packs or gamble on the items. Got a small stache of a couple speeders, both saber hilts, a copper crystal, a bunch of armor, and a couple sarlac pits... I have a handful of unopened packs and now I'm wondering if I should sell them or roll the dice on opening them for items. Gotta see the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockmks Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 Eh, not really. It's more about how cool items are when they come out. The first wave of the cartel pack "sets" always seems to be the most profitable because it has entirely new items. The other packs of that set that come out over the next few months have new items still, but also have a lot of recolors or re-tweaked weapons. (For example, the primordial blaster this time around got a holo target added to it to make it more "tech-like") There's still going to be some big sellers this go around. Mira's armor, the new robes, and especially the sarlac pit (I've seen one obtained in 3 hypercrates that have been open among friends/etc.) are going to go for quite a bit. That's exactly it.. the vice commandants pack is by far the most awesome, its the kit from that i've been collecting and watching the prices gradually increase. Good points though. I guess once people who buy these have their sets there's no point buying any more i guess. It was different for the first set though.. Yeah Im not too impressed by the current one.. the aratech recolors except. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimG Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 You don't really know the drop frequency of this stuff n the new pack yet so it's too early to make any judgments based on GTN prices when they are just becoming released from timers. Good job though calling them "gambling" packs. You guys and your agenda to push the "gambling" label on these things crack me up.....you guys are relentless if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDougherty Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Personally I've started buying them, bought almost everything I want from legacy, now I'm using my monthly allowance to buy the packs to get some cartel rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockmks Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) You don't really know the drop frequency of this stuff n the new pack yet so it's too early to make any judgments based on GTN prices when they are just becoming released from timers. Good job though calling them "gambling" packs. You guys and your agenda to push the "gambling" label on these things crack me up.....you guys are relentless if nothing else. Well, its grammatically correct to describe them as gambling packs. While i do enjoy the results of people who choose to gamble for non gamblers, (and hopefully make their game easier by providing credits in return their use) I don't see how you can dress this up.. the packs are advertising the content that is dropped by them, and there's a RNG element to what you'll get.. if its not gambling (for a content item you may want) what is it? I can't be critical though. Its a separate issue bioware have priced these gambling packs for whales ($70 for 24 packs is not a typical price point for mmo content eg). If the price was more reasonable im sure id gamble too You can tell im not going to get vip treatment at a casino Edited July 12, 2013 by stockmks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDougherty Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Well, its grammatically correct to describe them as gambling packs. While i do enjoy the results of people who choose to gamble for non gamblers, (and hopefully make their game easier by providing credits in return their use) I don't see how you can dress this up.. the packs are advertising the content that is dropped by them, and there's a RNG element to what you'll get.. if its not gambling (for a content item you may want) what is it? I can't be critical though. Its a separate issue bioware have priced these gambling packs for whales ($70 for 24 packs is not a typical price point for mmo content eg). If the price was more reasonable im sure id gamble too You can tell im not going to get vip treatment at a casino Agreed, it's a lucky dip as to what you receive, and lucky dips are a mild form of gambling, like raffles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafy_Bug Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I haven't bought anything in over two months and yesterday I decided to get two packs for giggles. As expected, I got nothing but trash so I wont' be buying anything for the next two months either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachenko_Yuri Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Just from seeing the trend of prices for some of the better items on the GTN. Gotta object to that one tbf, so many copper crystals that are getting undercut at 60k per piece ( of course those happen to be the endurance ones ) imo i'm seeing more pack consumption. Good enough, tastier and cheaper cherries to cherry pick from the GTN tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDougherty Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I haven't bought anything in over two months and yesterday I decided to get two packs for giggles. As expected, I got nothing but trash so I wont' be buying anything for the next two months either Shame, I've gotten Calo Nord's jacket from one, and a few cartel reputation points, and a cartel certificate. But I agree, most of the stuff is either fluff or junk. Calo Nord's Jacket looks excellent on my Jedi Guardian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake_Hound Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Bought two one time just for gigs , then decided payoff is not worth the price ! Rather grind credits and buy what I want .. Then gamble on junk that has worst payrate then the lottery . So doesn't matter if people buy more or less of CM . CM doesn't affect my gameplay or enjoyment in this game . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Just from seeing the trend of prices for some of the better items on the GTN. I remember watching the prices for all the good sets go up and down over the first batch, and in general the equivalents from the second batch seem to be holding higher price levels (closer to a million for chest pieces, lightsabers etc than 500k). This is making me suspect people are buying fewer gamble packs as time goes on... While i've never bought one myself, I actually quite enjoy the massive buff to the GTN minigame that these packs create.. and the fact that the kit is somewhat exclusive and doesn't make you look like you just paid $15 real money for one average item. Maybe some heavily discounted hypercrates should be on order? If i could get a hypercrate for $20 worth of cc's id probably do it. I guess the point of this post is a small nudge to bioware.. common, heat up the item sales again. I usually buy a 24 pack and sell them individually very quickly, but this time its taking a little longer... I think its fewer people buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin_Kelvar Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I would guess stuff from previous packs will temporarily decrease in supply as people focus on the newest, shiny packs. I doubt though that things prices will go insanely high on older pack stuff as, IMO, the stuff in the newest pack isn't nearly as awesome as the Vice Commandant's pack and some of the earlier ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarbNull Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Sales in Cartel Market Packs was destined to go down. When they first come out you will see them bought then sales will drop on them and older ones will hardly be bought at all. Sooner or later people realize what a waste they really are and there desire to buy them vanishes. Personally I'll never buy a Cartel Market Pack. Such a waste of money in my eyes. They would be lucky if I ever decided to buy more Cartel Coins than what I already pay for with my subscription. The only things I have spent my Cartel Coins on is the account wide cargo holds and character perks. Everything else is overpriced and as such nothing else has been able to peek my interest enough to pay they amount they have listed. Even a lot of the items that are on sale are overpriced. I do not mind paying to play my game but there is a limit I will pay in order to enjoy the game. So far the Cartel Market makes that limit for this game way more than it is worth. My subscription is all the amount that this game is currently worth in my eyes. Anything more than $15 a month is just a waste of money that can be better spent on something else or even another game. They have yet to make the game worth more that $15 an month in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwena Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 It is hard to tell, especially so early. But there seems to be a good supply of the new items on my server (Harbinger). I picked up one of the new Endurance crystals for 55K and Relnex's whole set for pretty cheap too -- the chest piece was only 3500 credits! It probably varies by server, but I am not seeing a dearth of new pack items on mine at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOuroborus Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I was buying quite a few in the beginning, but haven't bought a single one for some time now. It's online gambling in it's worst form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderKeeva Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Maybe people are getting tired of all these armor variations. The cash shop launched in November and we already have more than 13 pages worth of moddable Cartel armor in the Collections menu. At the rate they're churning out CM items, people aren't able to keep track of them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackavaar Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) No, I think more players are just involving themselves in the price fixing, based on what the items are and how popular they are perceived to be. There are a ton of Thana Vesh armor pieces on the GTN on Shadowlands, about as many as there are of the Matriarchal set. But the Matriarchal set goes for peanuts while Thana Vesh's stuff is ridiculously inflated. So, it's not rarity that is driving the prices any more, it's the perceived koolness of the item or set. Edited July 12, 2013 by Blackavaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSchuyler Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I don't know how closely people actually monitor this, but the packs that have been taken off the market do rather well on the GTN. There's probably some sort of nostalgia issue there for people having "just missed" the removal. Anyone who buys something that has had its removal announced should do rather well selling on the GTN. The real issue is to guess when this peaks. My sense is that many players think they are being clever, buy a hypercrate of a soon-to-be-discontinued pack, then immediately try to sell it on the GTN. This makes the price go down, not up, as there is a temporary over-supply. A little patience would allow a player to sell the packs at much higher prices later on. Same issue with Gold Scalene armor. The first week after it was removed chest pieces were selling for 300K. Now they are over a million. One of the funniest things I saw recently were people trying to sell a hypercrate for 6 million when the packs were selling for less than 250K apiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MahneWarrior Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 For these gamble packs or booster packs to work each pack would need a super rare but awesome item, to keep the desire to try again going. As of late none of the packs have had this hook. So this is why I suspect people are buying fewer backs, they need to bring back super rare weapon types, masks, mounts or something. Keep tossing in junk, and people will not respond, add awesome rewards with said junk people will keep trying for that one item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenify Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Personally I've started buying them, bought almost everything I want from legacy, now I'm using my monthly allowance to buy the packs to get some cartel rep. I'm personally sad, I got a large reputation trophy today but all I can do is vendor it for 2.5k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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