Petition to EA/SWTOR -- please read and perhaps respond.

[Arlbo_Nabbins]

I complete the weekly on Wed. How is holding that and turning it in at the last possible moment helpful? I complete it on wed and turn it in on wed... wouldn't matter if i turned it in on mon. right? I cant pick up another weekly until tues.

 

Are you being deliberately obtuse? He said delaying until Tuesday, which means after 2.0.

 

Once 2.0 is released those dailies/weeklies that you did not turn in before will give you different commendations than they do currently, those comms can be used to buy the new level 50 commendation gear.

Edited April 4, 2013 by Arlbo_Nabbins

[TUXs]

the point was -- the devs said that they were leveling in ways not intended .. which is why i am asking about this.

 

If all quests no longer gave XP on Tuesday, and the idea was to only grind mobs, PvP or Ops XP, you might have a point...but as far as I know, even on Tuesday, all quests will still award XP...right? So...how exactly is leveling via quest XP "not intended" in your mind? Because they're banked? Because players waited? Truthfully, why the hell do you really care how/when someone else reaches 51?

[ElvisLegShaker]

I think OP is one of the people that don't have much experience with mmo's before SWTOR, just a hunch since its been a given since forever that a new expansion of levels in any mmo has people theorycrafting ways to get to max level again in the fastest way possible. Just google "wow athene world first" for a number of prime examples.

 

The thing is, what does it do to your experience in the long run? Unless you are desperate to get there a few hours early yourself how is this effecting you? Because even on a pvp realm its not going to cause any changes. There WILL be campers regardless. So what does complaining about this mean to you? How has it ruined your experience in any way?

 

dope...

 

i will end my replies to this thread with you. i think your name is befitting.

 

most, including you have not read through this (which is my hope for you otherwise you have an issue with comprehension) thread .. but just want to jump in with "i'm funny and can be witty" remarks.

 

i do not care how folks level ... i do not care how folks get their credits ...

 

force choke your companion while spamming print screen and instantly hit level 50. i dont care. it doesn't bother me.

 

my whooooooole point in this thread is to get someone with yellow text powers to chime in on the difference between level 50's holding 25 xp boosted level 50 quests jumping ahead of others (in effect power leveling) vs what happened and how they handled it on ilum with lowbies (in effect power leveling).

 

I understand a lot... and I mean aaaaa loooot of folks missed the point but i expect that in today's medicated people.. i just thought that medicine was suppose to help focus, not detract .. but i digress...

 

have a great day!!

 

=D

 

and yes.. this is it ... i have been brought down and beaten with experience. plus.. I got other things to do =D

[jedip_enguin]

dope...

 

i will end my replies to this thread with you. i think your name is befitting.

 

most, including you have not read through this (which is my hope for you otherwise you have an issue with comprehension) thread .. but just want to jump in with "i'm funny and can be witty" remarks.

 

i do not care how folks level ... i do not care how folks get their credits ...

 

force choke your companion while spamming print screen and instantly hit level 50. i dont care. it doesn't bother me.

 

my whooooooole point in this thread is to get someone with yellow text powers to chime in on the difference between level 50's holding 25 xp boosted level 50 quests jumping ahead of others (in effect power leveling) vs what happened and how they handled it on ilum with lowbies (in effect power leveling).

 

I understand a lot... and I mean aaaaa loooot of folks missed the point but i expect that in today's medicated people.. i just thought that medicine was suppose to help focus, not detract .. but i digress...

 

have a great day!!

 

=D

 

and yes.. this is it ... i have been brought down and beaten with experience. plus.. I got other things to do =D

 

Nobody could possibly be this dumb... *sounds of a penny dropping*

 

Cant believe it took me this long to spot that you were just trolling.

 

Nevermind, you live and you learn.

[Eurynamous]

This thread is a joke? Right? Many people have mentioned this before, it's standard practice for online games with a leveling system. When an expansion is on the horizon, it's fun to prepare for the eventual day. Why you would want to invalidate someone's efforts in being ready for something because you don't feel like doing it yourself.

 

If a player has a lack of initiative and ambition, that's their problem, not any body else's. So, for the op to write a long winded post, trying to throw the cuffs on players who are eager to experience the content before the mass of "half paced", is just inconsiderate and rude.

 

Why would I have all 25 quest slots filled with completed quests?

 

• not be stuck waiting for an objective while X number of players are also waiting
  
• general chat is only filled with requests for heroic assistance
  
• great players who aren't lazy or selfish and are fully prepared for the challenges ahead
  
• finish the planet quests and start the dailies + HM runs
  
• get a head start on my gearing runs to prepare for the next level of operations
  
• focus on farming mats for my crafting skills
  

 

TL;DR

 

Just get prepared and stop trying to hold other people back because you don't want anyone getting ahead of you. It took you five minutes to write an equally silly request when it could have taken you ten to complete all of the ilum dailies.

[Hyfy]

I'll show you OP, I still have all of Voss and Corellia to do yet on my 50 Merc. I'm gonna wait until Tuesday to start doing them just so you can whine that someone is gaming the system by playing the game. Really I don't get your logic. They are still doing the missions not getting credit for NOT doing them. So who really cares if they save them up to turn in at one time? How does that affect you? It doesn't. There are better things to gripe about than this.

[Wefi]

You can only have 3 Quest in the completed que

 

them not turning in for the completed que is no different than them doing it. I myself have 3 planets that i haven't touched.

[Rafaman]

Bored. So checking in and bingo.

 

Well as long as you have your preferred taste in paste... happy for you. Enjoy.

 

Now as for Ilum ... nope, no effect on me. I hit Ilum with my 50's to get enough rep and coins to buy my blue eyeball. Got it and done. Haven't been back since. Won't be back.

 

Now.. as far as bolster goes .. what difference did it make to ANYONE... how ANYONE else leveled? None, correct? Yet, there was an outcry and the devs stepped in and said "unintended". THE DEVS said it.

 

I can't slow this down for you.. so maybe have someone read it to you slowly.

 

The .. same .. mechanic .. applies .. to makeb .. for early .. access ...

 

t it for tat. Gaming xp for levels on ilum during double xp ... applies to gaming levels for ealry access.

 

look, I do NOT care how anyone levels... I do NOT care if anyone buys credits ... and to be honest I don't care how they treat this -- I just thought I'd make a vocal outcry concerning it. That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less.

 

They messed with the double xp in regards to Ilum ... the SAME positional is in place for early access makeb. Fix it like they did with the other.

 

fair? i think so.

 

Ok... It is not the same. Not even close. But, I'm not going to explain it to you. There is no need. I think everyone sees it but you. So slow it down for yourself if you like. It might make a difference as you rationalize your need to respond.

 

Thanks for the entertainment though. Delusions can be fun for those not deluded.

[ElvisLegShaker]

Ok this is it for real.. just had some fun after reading my pms (thought that one guy wrote me.. nope). I learned about reporting posts and folks getting butt hurt.. so, I went through and returned the favor (in hopes I got one or two of em).. at any rate.. enjoy the pms you get .. =D

 

I'm not going to bother quoting and responding since when I do.. it doesn't matter, folks aren't reading it any way and are simply writing in a knee jerk fashion ... "read thread title.. maybe the last post or two ... respond".. =|

 

QUOTE ME --- At any rate - once again ... I .. do .. not .. care ... how any one levels. ---QUOTE ME

(any posts after this.... QUOTE that.. so we all know you actually read the thread, or.. sigh.. read this post)

 

I just think that if the devs "fixing" ilum leveling WHILE saying it is NOT an exploit .. they should look into this. And fix it as well.

 

I mean, can't have 50's doing what sub 50's were doing right? that wouldn't be fair.

 

Ok, you all have a great day .. no harm meant.. it was all about trying to bring this to light and have some verbal jousting (though, some folks got some very, very thin skin ... yet I'm made fun of).

 

Well, at any rate ... have a coke and a smile =D

[darthnish]

i was going to call the OP a retar-.... but then i would be insulting the mentally challenged, which is a very bad thing to do, sorry OP.

[jgoldsack]

Ok this is it for real.. just had some fun after reading my pms (thought that one guy wrote me.. nope). I learned about reporting posts and folks getting butt hurt.. so, I went through and returned the favor (in hopes I got one or two of em).. at any rate.. enjoy the pms you get .. =D

 

I'm not going to bother quoting and responding since when I do.. it doesn't matter, folks aren't reading it any way and are simply writing in a knee jerk fashion ... "read thread title.. maybe the last post or two ... respond".. =|

 

QUOTE ME --- At any rate - once again ... I .. do .. not .. care ... how any one levels. ---QUOTE ME

(any posts after this.... QUOTE that.. so we all know you actually read the thread, or.. sigh.. read this post)

 

I just think that if the devs "fixing" ilum leveling WHILE saying it is NOT an exploit .. they should look into this. And fix it as well.

 

I mean, can't have 50's doing what sub 50's were doing right? that wouldn't be fair.

 

Ok, you all have a great day .. no harm meant.. it was all about trying to bring this to light and have some verbal jousting (though, some folks got some very, very thin skin ... yet I'm made fun of).

 

Well, at any rate ... have a coke and a smile =D

 

I thought you were done replying to this thread?

 

i will end my replies to this thread with you.

[chimex]

Let the people who want to "game" the system (using that term loosely here) hand in their missions. I personally see no sense in trying to advance through an entire expansion asap, ready the following week with a rant describing how little there is to do.

 

Seriously OP, play at your own pace and enjoy the game. Pay no attention to the ones who rush content.

[BrianDavion]

there's no gameing the system with this involved. whats's the differance between this and my tuesday just doing the dalies before I do Makeb? absolutly none. fact is apparently the XP on makeb is slightly lower then whats actually needed (which is fair you tend to hit 50 before your done with corellia so long term this isn't an issue) but BW's proably expecting us to do this kind of thing to make up for the "lost" XP on our 50s.

[Kraith]

this lacks even the slightest bit of importance in regards to a new expansion being released. they will have ther hands full with real issues,,,,

[WookieIsshe]

It's been brought to my attention (looking at the forums.. look at em sometimes, lotsa stuff going on around here) that there is the possibility to "game" the system in gaining XP when the new planet (the one talked about being free when announced but now costs cash) goes live.

 

They NEVER said it was free and never said they would charge. The only thing that was said they hadn't decided if it would be free or not. This subject has been beaten to death and still people don't get it.

 

"Gaming The System Method":

Folks will fill their 25 quest limit (why hasn't that limit been expanded upon by now?) with level 50 quests, only to then turn them all in (while using XP boosts), and gain about a level (out of the gate, thus giving an unfair and unintended?? advantage) or so thereabouts. Sure.. a level or two.. or a level and a half isn't much in the scheme of things, but - it's still there.

 

Everyone can do the same thing so no there is no unfair advantage here.

 

I recall a certain outcry concerning the double XP, Ilum, Gree event ... I dunno. It's kinda hazy. According to all concerned ... power leveling wasn't meant to be a by product and thus changes were made (that effected legit players.. dang.. really??? Wow.. that must have been one hell of a tight panty twist players presented (because as we all know, via the thorough testing you have in place, it would have been caught prior to going live).

 

Double XP was never tested on the PTS so not sure where you get your information from. It might have been tested internally but with a small group of people testing that feature it was probably overlooked. You do realize the developers and QA and other departments are HUMAN and are prone to making mistakes and oversights just like you and I.

 

Well, here is a clear cut case of power leveling right out of the gate with Makeb or whatever it is.

 

Soooooo .. my petition to you, the powers that be -- you are NOW made aware of the XP "exploit" (not intended - see ilum) byproduct of the live release of the new planet. Are you going to wait or are you going to take steps NOW to ensure folks can not gain XP in non intended ways? -- wipe .. WIPE allllll level 50 quests at login.

 

This is one of the dumbest things I have read on these forums and that is saying a lot. This is not meant to attack you personally but next time think before you make a post like this.

 

On the 8th, make a login announcment to turn in any quests pending at level 50 or lose them. Simple. On the 9th, any quests pending will be wiped at login.

 

It's the ONLY FAIR thing to do (considering what you did to the Ilum quests). Unless of course there is some kinda weird double standard thing going on.

 

Thank you for your time.

 

Seriously nothing you wrote makes a bit of sense. Saving quests that you actually did and turn them in on dbl experience weekends was intended. You comparison of the Illum unintended way of leveling is not in the same ballpark.

Edited April 5, 2013 by WookieIsshe

[Malastare]

my whooooooole point in this thread is to get someone with yellow text powers to chime in on the difference between level 50's holding 25 xp boosted level 50 quests jumping ahead of others (in effect power leveling) vs what happened and how they handled it on ilum with lowbies (in effect power leveling).

 

There are too many differences to note. You still don't seem to understand. Let me try one more time:

 

Power Leveling. It means using a more powerful character to help a lower level character level quickly.

 

Feel free to try that on Voss. Take a Level 48 character and try to help a Level 12 character gain levels. Do you know what happens?

 

Almost nothing. It takes forever to level. There is an XP penalty when you are grouped with a character who is a significantly higher level than you. At 48-vs-12, the penalty is crushing and you end up leveling slower than if you were on Dromund Kaas or Coruscant.

 

Now, let's see what was happening on Ilum:

 

You level. Fast. Very fast. The combination of Bolster and Server 2xXP eliminated the level-disparity-XP-penalty. Ilum was the only place a Lvl 10 character could power level with a Level 50. In fact, it was the only place where characters from Level 10 to 42 could power level with a Level 50.

 

The only place.

 

Nowhere else in the game could a Level 10 character get even moderate amounts of XP by playing with a Level 50. There was a mechanic in place to prevent that. The combination of Bolster and 2xXP allowed it. The solution was to remove the 2xXP and reinstate the same mechanic that was in place on every other location in the game.

 

It was not removed because people were able to level from Level 48 to 50 quickly.

[astrobearx]

Nobody could possibly be this dumb... *sounds of a penny dropping*

 

Cant believe it took me this long to spot that you were just trolling.

 

Nevermind, you live and you learn.

i noticed this as well

 

which is ironic, since he made several QQ post on another thread that this sort of thing:confused:

Edited April 5, 2013 by astrobearx

[Blackavaar]

Sorry, but a 1 to 2 level boost to XP because of actually doing things in-game in preparation for the release is a lot different than exploiting a glitch to go from 1-50 in 9 hours.

 

There is no issue here. Nothing will be done as nothing should be done. This is not an exploit.

 

[JimG]

I recall a certain outcry concerning the double XP, Ilum, Gree event ... I dunno. It's kinda hazy.

The difference being that you're complaining about people getting level-appropriate XP from quests that they have completed. The issue with the Gree event was people taking advantage of an unintended loophole whereby they were able to team up with players of a much higher level to earn XP a rate significantly disproportionate to their level. You're talking apples and oranges here.