Tachenko_Yuri Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 So I've began playing this commando for the legacy endurance buff. and now I can't get off it!! I like the heals, at least up until now I've been able to heal people through the flashpoints Liking the trooper class story, gets me a real trooper feeling without too much jedi/sith hassle within. Pure blaster fire throughout, living it and loving it Liking the fact that the biggest usable weapon in game is used to heal people rather than to kill them, hilarious. Not liking the fact that there despite being many " war medic " gear, there isn't one single title regarding that except basic military rankings, while npcs all over the game have all sorts of medical identification. Suggestions, which are also a few of the titles that medical NPCs have: Sawbones Doctor Medical Officer War Medic Blood medic ( for whatever that means ) Not liking also the class name. While personally I read through and knew I was getting myself into the healer path, others read " commando " and start thinking all sorts of shooting stuff.. the blaster cannon guy in the cinematic that starts shredding everything doesn't help either. Commando's possibly a misleading name for it's function. But at the end of the day my likes far outweigh the dislike, which are quite overlookable. Commando ftw
Rafaman Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 I love my Commando. I have re-speced often and as needed and, for the most part, my gear works well with both specs. Of all the stories, the Trooper story is... well, the most realistic and down to earth. I mean... it really does give you a sense of how overwhelming the plight of the Trooper really is. I'll stop right there so as not to spoil things. Reminds me of the following quote. "Yet they're fighting for our society and our freedom. It's weird, isn't it? At the bottom of the barrel, and they know it. Maybe that's why they call themselves 'grunts', cause a grunt can take it, can take anything. They're the best I've ever seen... The heart and soul..."
Joshthecook Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 I am glad to see another Trooper convert! Troopers Rule! I have a couple of troopers (ok so two vanguards and a commando healer...I admit I have a problem) I find the names kind of sort of mixed up too but it all works out in the end, I guess. You are right on as far as the story. It may not be as epic as the Knight or Warrior, or as in depth as the Agent, or as mysterious as the Consular's, but the story is not to be undersold and is really fitting to the role. While some may argue over advance classes in other stories, playing either a Vanguard or Commando seems to fit just as well as the other, you really don't feel out of place doing what you do. To be fair to your DPS brethren, Commando's do pump out some decent if not very good damage on the PvE side, so the pew pew Commando is not to be unexpected. I do however think that the Commando healer to be the finest tank/single target healer in the game with enough support to keep a team member up enough for the Sage's and Scoundrel's channel/HOT's to do their thing. In also think that our static heal helps lessen the squishiness of anyone taking regular damage.
JPryde Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) I started to play a trooper for the exact same reason... to unlock the legacy buff.... and have in the progress learned to hate it. The storyline in my opinion is by far the worst, that I have wasted time to listen to by now, coming from a perspective of a retired RL-soldier. The swap of hierarchy with the Sergeant (player) and the Lieutenant (Aric) was a bad start already, and it gets worth with every step. Throughout the whole story, you are praised for the deeds of havoc squad... when in truth all those legend was built without the player. The player is honored and praised whereever they go... for deeds that a bunch of traitors had done. When rebuilding the havoc squad, the player is always at the borderline of insubordination... unless you pick the right choices... then you are well beyond insubordination. For companions you get your former CO as Sergeant (absolute no-go), a defector (being the most "real" person of the squad), a droid that is more patriotic than deadly, a demolition expert who wants to blow up everything and keep all for himself - a typical mercenary but no trooper, and finally an electronic expert, who told me to cut the blue wire, even though it was all twitchy and evil looking... while the red wire, despite its agressive color was smooth and lean. I practically worked my way to the end of chapter 2 for the buff. It took me another month from that point to get to 50, because I just could not motivate myself to play that char. Having all three healer classes at 50, I am also not overly impressed by the performance of the commando-healer. My personal commando overview: do not play, unless you are a masochist Edited April 4, 2013 by JPryde
JediCahlwyn Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Just want to point out... You can NOT put your "real life soldier" knowledge into play in the SW universe. The Republic military works differently than the American military (hell many of the issues people have with military stuff in SW is "ok" in other militaries in the world). In the SW universe it works differently...
Houzukimaru Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Troopers unite. There are certain aspects that can translate, but a lot can't. If anyone has figured this out, it's ACoy.
JPryde Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Just want to point out... You can NOT put your "real life soldier" knowledge into play in the SW universe. The Republic military works differently than the American military (hell many of the issues people have with military stuff in SW is "ok" in other militaries in the world). In the SW universe it works differently... Sure I can. I never claimed, that anyone else needs to do so as well. When I started the trooper story, I was expecting something along the lines of the "hope" trailer, with a big "FOR THE REPUBLIC !". What I got was a single guy with credits he didn't earn stumbling through the world and doing basically what he wanted to do, ignoring many direct commands of his superiors. Sometimes I felt more like a republic soldier, when I was playing my smugglers story. P.S: I wasn't in the US military. I know, each military got a system of their own, with processes, that might seem wierd to others, but I have yet to find one army, where open insubordination is shrugged of as okay and I also have yet to see an army, where the legacy of a units name is giving credit to a single member of that unit, who never did anything to build that legacy. They could have as well put away with havoc squad and let the player built a new squad from scratch... that is exactly what the trooper is doing... only inheriting a legacy that he doesn't own. I wonder how a seal team would like, if their squad were dissolved and a new guy, who was never in a seal team would be given the units name and title and everywhere he went, people would praise him for the units title.
Kubernetic Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Started out with a Commando during the Thanksgiving Beta weekends, and have used it as my main toon ever since. Love the combination of heals plus ranged DPS. And with the new alacrity buffs in 2.0... I think Commandos are going to be coming into their own in PVP as well. I do love the healing beam from Combat Support Cell on that assault cannon. I prefer that heal beam much more than the Scoundrel's Diagnostic scan. Haven't got my Sage healer up enough to know what their bread-and-butter healing skill is, but being able to run behind someone with that green beam in their back is awesome. Even Electro-net, allowing us to now withdraw from melee opponents pounding on us... I can't wait.
AlaricSevGirl Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) For companions you get your former CO as Sergeant Jorgan is not your former CO. Tavus is your former CO and yes, though briefly, you were a member of Havoc squad. Jorgan is an LT in a different part of the military so though he was a higher ranking officer, he was not your CO. I love my commando and my vanguard. My commando is complete insubordination, she hates Garza. My vanguard (male) follows orders. That's just what he does. If Garza says kill these people, he does it, no questions asked. I love he fact that I can play two different advanced classes and have them be so different in the way they handle the story too. Edited April 4, 2013 by AlaricSevGirl
DaxCalvo Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Sure I can. I never claimed, that anyone else needs to do so as well. When I started the trooper story, I was expecting something along the lines of the "hope" trailer, with a big "FOR THE REPUBLIC !". What I got was a single guy with credits he didn't earn stumbling through the world and doing basically what he wanted to do, ignoring many direct commands of his superiors. Sometimes I felt more like a republic soldier, when I was playing my smugglers story. You also have the option of obeying your orders and respecting your superiors. No one forced you to be insubordinate. I also have yet to see an army, where the legacy of a units name is giving credit to a single member of that unit, who never did anything to build that legacy. They could have as well put away with havoc squad and let the player built a new squad from scratch... that is exactly what the trooper is doing... only inheriting a legacy that he doesn't own. I wonder how a seal team would like, if their squad were dissolved and a new guy, who was never in a seal team would be given the units name and title and everywhere he went, people would praise him for the units title. IIRC, the dissolusion of the old Havoc Squad wasn't made public. And it was an elite spec ops unit. It carries a reputation, and that's one fo the reasons they'd have you simply rebuild that squad instead of starting a new one from scratch. That name meant something, it could open doors with people who might be more willing to work with and trust this famous squad, it also migt throw an enemy off their game when they hear that they're facing a squad that had done so much before. All that said, I love my DPS Commando. He's my favorite. =)
ZionHalcyon Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 I feel the same way about Bonty Hunter. Was a Sith Warrior on my old server, but when I decided to jump ship to a better server before there were merges, first toon I rolled was a bounty hunter. I really never even looked back after that - it is far and away my favorite class. Just massive destruction-dealing to the most amount of mobs at one time. Death from above rules. Commando is my #2 fav
Rafaman Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 All I know is I'm about to cap my second Trooper. I'm on my Vanguard tank on Corellia and I feel like this: "For hope! For Freedom! For The Republic!"
Cernow Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) Not liking also the class name. While personally I read through and knew I was getting myself into the healer path, others read " commando " and start thinking all sorts of shooting stuff.. the blaster cannon guy in the cinematic that starts shredding everything doesn't help either. Commando's possibly a misleading name for it's function. Well Commandos shred stuff too, very efficiently. That's the beauty of the class, versatility, it's not just pigeon-holed into healing, it's also fully viable in a dps role (at least in PVE). Edited April 4, 2013 by Cernow
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