MrGrzecka Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 Yup, he is obviously oblivious to the recent PTS ranked matches and their results. Nostrum from Red Eclipse (pve server zomg) did run 8 hybrid mercs tho, so it's not hard to see how they kicked so much ***. Nostrum dolus was infact using a hybrid commando. Hey im mvp was using a hybrid merc and im pretty sure they won the majority of the pts ranked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyboyW Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Nostrum's DPS was/is 2 Sents, 1 VG and 1 GS. Not that it's relevant, I was responding to the guy who assumed that the top people on pvp servers would beat the top people on pve servers. I only threw in the 'hybrid merc' line so as to be vaguely near the actual topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury_Down Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 My bad! I stand corrected. I'll go sulk in the corner now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury_Down Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) Double post. Edited March 30, 2013 by Mercury_Down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raychul Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 This spec truly does seem like it could be great, not just for utility, but to punish all the fotm's! I may very well have to put my commando back in, just to test this gem of a tribrid out! "I got the sickest flow, not even advil can cure this cold." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Boson Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 google -> hoodstar 2.0 trollolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 wait what? i have an elite warhero merc that wouldn't scratch a sin (you know a good one that knows how to play the class) are you telling me thats about to change? Trust me, madness is not a very good 1v1 spec, not that I cant beat a good chunk of players with it but nice little zing in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_My_Newts Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Hate to say it man but this spec is garbage. You will be ineffective at: 1) Healing - With as many interrups as there are out there, merc healers ABSOLUTELY RELY on their top tier talent. Currently in 2.0, full spec merc heals are already struggling so this will be even worse. 2) DPS - You are not high enough in any tree to take abilities that buff crit damage for your attacks. Now yes, crit will be nerfed in 2.0; however, those crit dmg bonuses are vital to every dps merc spec. Add to this the fact that you are not high enough in any tree to pick up any dps synergy for your attacks (ie no PPA). There are no hybrid dps specs that can get away without taking some of these high tier dps talents. 3) Heat management - if running heal cylinder, you will be sorely missing the talents that reduce ammo cost for rapid scan, you did not take any heat reduction in AP cylinder so nothing going there, and when in CG Cylinder, the combination of Incendiary missle and only one point into superheated rail means your heat will rise crazy fast. Conclusion - The merc class is already SEVERELY gimped in pvp. These guys counter no one and have attacks that are easily interrupted and easy to shut down. This spec will take your already difficult job and make it nigh impossible. Maybe you can do ok in pug matches, but who really cares about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGrzecka Posted March 31, 2013 Author Share Posted March 31, 2013 Trust me, madness is not a very good 1v1 spec, not that I cant beat a good chunk of players with it but nice little zing in there. Hoodstar > fotm madness sin spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Hoodstar > fotm madness sin spec. At least keep the effort up when trolling. You might get some people into thinking this build is ok but no one will fall for madness being fotm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGrzecka Posted March 31, 2013 Author Share Posted March 31, 2013 At least keep the effort up when trolling. You might get some people into thinking this build is ok but no one will fall for madness being fotm. it is deathfield crits for like 4k and maul hits for like 5k.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandoforlife Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 it is deathfield crits for like 4k and maul hits for like 5k.. I'll give you deathfield, but duplicity is being taken away from madness, so maul will not crit for that much, and I'd love for you to find one sensible sin who would spend half their resource on it. As for the merc hybrid: I've tried hybrids on my merc. I've been playing my merc as my main since early access. And, I can tell you, dps merc hybrids just don't work. All the abilities are to dependant on one another to outperform a full spec with a hybrid. The only merc hybrid I have EVER seen work is run by a brilliant merc in my guild, and its a Bodyguard/Pyro hybrid. I consider myself to be a skilled mercenary, but only he seems to be able to make it work. He's basically DPS with excellent survivability. Other than that hybrid, I don't think any others would really work. I'm not trying to bash you, I just don't see it performing better than a pure spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 it is deathfield crits for like 4k and maul hits for like 5k.. 5k mauls lulz...try 6-8k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 this thread is going places Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury_Down Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 this thread is going places Yeah I don't know what world is coming to. You can't even make outrageous claims anymore without people proving you wrong. Sad state of affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelLBC Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Hoodstar > fotm madness sin spec. LOL@ madness fotm. Now I know you're trolling. Isn't it more commonly known as sadness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phrase Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I know this dropped off the first page, but I've since tried a version of this on live and was impressed with the results. I've attached a video, pay special attention to the rotation used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I know this dropped off the first page, but I've since tried a version of this on live and was impressed with the results. I've attached a video, pay special attention to the rotation used. Pretty sure you are using the wrong cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phrase Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Pretty sure you are using the wrong cylinder. It may seem that way, but the spec is all about proper stance dancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oredith Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I know this dropped off the first page, but I've since tried a version of this on live and was impressed with the results. I've attached a video, pay special attention to the rotation used. ok, I know i was really skeptical of this spec, but after seeing this video, i've changed my mind. this will clearly be the counter to smashers and snipers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 It may seem that way, but the spec is all about proper stance dancing. +10 interwebz for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 It may seem that way, but the spec is all about proper stance dancing. I see, after watching the video another 21 times I see what you are getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMasterSLC Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Why even bother specking into supercharged gas, your healing cell charges will disappear when u "stance dance" lol. 2/2 instead of 1/2 in critical reaction = fail, same for power barrier, no reduced pushback on heal casts....., and of course just the overall stupidity of a merc tribrid. Good troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoBearsFan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 You can't have a viable hybrid if the class itself isn't viable. Its still a broken class, the changes in 2.0 did little to help that. I love my commando, my commando just doesn't love me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelLBC Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I know this dropped off the first page, but I've since tried a version of this on live and was impressed with the results. I've attached a video, pay special attention to the rotation used. I stand corrected. That was way smoother stance dancing than I'd have thought possible. What was your talent build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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