DeFierrio Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 First off, I would like to say that I enjoy and like Star Wars the Old Republic. This is not a "bash" just my personal opinions. That being said, I'm kind of tired of having to put up with 1979's idea of a futuristic society just to satisify the die hard fans of the original Star War's films. I mean we have these big clunky computers with nobs and flashing lights, giant holo communicators (hell the iphone is more advanced than that), etc..... It's all very retro. I know I know, most of you are thinking, "But It's Star Wars! It's suppose to be like that!" Well this is 2013 not the 1970s. Things need to be brought up to date imo. The technology in a sci-fi game should at least be equal to or greater than the current tech of today I would think. From what I can remember, Mass Effect was pretty impressive and all the tech was believable. No reason the same can't be done here and still be considered Star Wars. /end rambling complaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) The lore for this game takes place in a galaxy far far away.... AND.... thousands of years before the lore in the movies. TL;DR the tech is part of the lore and the lore is timeless. By the way..... exactly what part of the tech is not believable to you? Hand held holo-communicators are way advanced compared to today's iPhone.... and holo-com is thousands of years old. Edited March 7, 2013 by Andryah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandicus Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Holocomms are 3D projectors for visual and audio(beyond what we have today). Its not like they don't have simpler audio only(check out the Imp agent storyline for an example of their ability to make such a primitive device unnoticeable) or 2D video and audio. Large computers are simply large computers(power over miniaturization). Those still exist today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altheran Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) Say that to Lucas Arts. If you have not this little "retro touch" it wouldn't be "Star Wars". Mass Effect is what is a sci-fi nowadays, but this not the same universe. Each universe has its codes and rules. You can't sell a Star Wars where lightsabers do not exist, nor you can sell a "Lord of the Ring" with mages in each streets. It can be "retro" or "old-fashionned", but that's it : you can't be too different from the original. Edited March 7, 2013 by Altheran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFierrio Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 Holocomms are 3D projectors for visual and audio(beyond what we have today). Its not like they don't have simpler audio only(check out the Imp agent storyline for an example of their ability to make such a primitive device unnoticeable) or 2D video and audio.? Large computers are simply large computers(power over miniaturization). Those still exist today. Umm seriously? If I recall correctly the holocomunicator is this big clunky grey thing (bigger than a smartphone) with oone button. It displays a crappy non color 3d image that's it. We have the ability to project 3d images today. But a smartphone has far more uses than just communication. Make the personal holocomunicators look like smartphones. All im saying. And as far as the big computers, they look like they are from the 70s.......................................................... That's the point im trying to make. Make star wars MODERN. Make star wars believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelther Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 giant holo communicators (hell the iphone is more advanced than that), etc..... It's all very retro. Can you ridiculously overpriced device with an apple logo on top (which takes up 40% of the price) project images into thin air? I think not. Therefore it's not more advanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFierrio Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 Say that to Lucas Arts. If you have not this little "retro touch" it wouldn't be "Star Wars". Mass Effect is what is a sci-fi nowadays, but this not the same universe. Each universe has its codes and rules. You can't sell a Star Wars where lightsabers do not exist, nor you can sell a "Lord of the Ring" with mages in each streets. It can be "retro" or "old-fashionned", but that's it : you can't be too different from the original. Never said get rid of lightsabers. Lightsabers are cool and iconic to sw. Just saying mabey get rid of some of the oversized simplistic tech that screams 1970s. I don't think anyone would miss it lol. If your saying the franchise can't adapt and modernize well...... I seriously doubt the new sw films coming out are going to look like the old ones now that george lucas is out of the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelther Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 It's happening about 3k year BEFORE the movies. If anything the tech should be more primitive, rather than newer. Go talk to Disney about episode 7 and ask them to replace all comlinks with iPhones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshlaBoga Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 The lore for this game takes place in a galaxy far far away.... AND.... thousands of years before the lore in the movies. TL;DR the tech is part of the lore and the lore is timeless. By the way..... exactly what part of the tech is not believable to you? Hand held holo-communicators are way advanced compared to today's iPhone.... and holo-com is thousands of years old. I don't think that making SW more realistic is something you're going to see a lot of support for OP. I like SW as a form of escapism, I play the game in no small part because it's not realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFierrio Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 Can you ridiculously overpriced device with an apple logo on top (which takes up 40% of the price) project images into thin air? I think not. Therefore it's not more advanced. Says you. I would much rather have a phone that is a mobile computer capable of connecting to the internet virtually anywhere (im writing this from my phone lol) over a holocommunicator that is only capabe of placing 3d phone calls. But hey that's just me. And I have a droid not an iphone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFierrio Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 It's happening about 3k year BEFORE the movies. If anything the tech should be more primitive, rather than newer. Go talk to Disney about episode 7 and ask them to replace all comlinks with iPhones. So? They are still capable of interstellar space travel. Therefore the tech should LOOK more advanced than ours. It doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuixupu Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 It's Star Wars. It's space fantasy. Holocommuncators, lightsabers giant walking war machines and clunky bleeping droids are staples of the lore. If you mess with the technology too much, it's just not Star Wars anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackavaar Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) You're asking for realism in a universe where there is no re-entry burn, planets only come in varieties that are one type of environment (desert, ice, forest, swamp), beams of light stop in mid-air, droids with wheels magically appear at the top of any set of stairs and lightning that acts as binders? Get real man. Seeing as how this game is based in that universe 3000 years in the past, this stuff should look even more retro than it does. That would be more realistic. Edited March 7, 2013 by Blackavaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFierrio Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 I don't think that making SW more realistic is something you're going to see a lot of support for OP. I like SW as a form of escapism, I play the game in no small part because it's not realistic. Hey I agree with you about the escapism. Only problem is with me, it has to be believable. The ridiculous 70s style tech is an immersion killer for me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durhon Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 You're asking for realism in a universe where there is no re-entry burn, planets only come in varieties that are one type of environment (desert, ice, forest, swamp), beams of light stop in mid-air, droids with wheels magically appear at the top of any set of stairs and lightning that acts as binders? Get real man. Seeing as how this game is based in that universe 3000 years in the past, this stuff should look even more retro than it does. That would be more realistic. Lightsabers are actually loops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackavaar Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 So? They are still capable of interstellar space travel. Therefore the tech should LOOK more advanced than ours. It doesn't. Dude. A long time ago in a galaxy far far away. Ring any bells? It isn't Earth. They aren't from Earth. Their technology is not evolving along the same lines as ours, hence it has a different style and look. That's all and that's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackavaar Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Lightsabers are actually loops. Yeah, light that bends in mid-air for no reason at all. That's more realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverfar Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 First off, I would like to say that I enjoy and like Star Wars the Old Republic. This is not a "bash" just my personal opinions. That being said, I'm kind of tired of having to put up with 1979's idea of a futuristic society just to satisify the die hard fans of the original Star War's films. I mean we have these big clunky computers with nobs and flashing lights, giant holo communicators (hell the iphone is more advanced than that), etc..... It's all very retro. I know I know, most of you are thinking, "But It's Star Wars! It's suppose to be like that!" Well this is 2013 not the 1970s. Things need to be brought up to date imo. The technology in a sci-fi game should at least be equal to or greater than the current tech of today I would think. From what I can remember, Mass Effect was pretty impressive and all the tech was believable. No reason the same can't be done here and still be considered Star Wars. /end rambling complaint HAHAHAHAHA! *breath* HAHAHAHA!... whew. I suppose you want dubstep in the next Star Wars soundtrack, too? What part of "a long time ago" don't you get from the "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away"? It doesn't "modernize" because it's inherently its own fantastical (yes, fantastical) setting. They won't do this, and I'm glad they won't. Get your technophile kicks elsewhere. Like, say, 99% of the rest of sci-fi which is so busy modernizing that it's basically soap operas and terrorist hunting in space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFierrio Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 Dude. A long time ago in a galaxy far far away. Ring any bells? It isn't Earth. They aren't from Earth. Their technology is not evolving along the same lines as ours, hence it has a different style and look. That's all and that's that. But it does look like ours......ours in the 1970s...... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverfar Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Hey I agree with you about the escapism. Only problem is with me, it has to be believable. The ridiculous 70s style tech is an immersion killer for me though. To you. Not to most of the fanbase that loves the timeless look, intended to remain so even through thousands of years of Star Wars history. "Stop Liking What I Don't Like" is what you're trying to say. Sorry, Star Wars has been retro forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelther Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) So? They are still capable of interstellar space travel. Therefore the tech should LOOK more advanced than ours. It doesn't. Because it's not set in our universe. At least not our galaxy. Mass Effect, for example is set in our universe so the tech looks more realistic. Tech does not have to follow earth's progression if it's not based on our universe. Be glad all the spaceships are not organic fish hybrids or something at least. Also if the movie started with 70s style it must remain so, otherwise it will feel out of place. Look at Alien franchise for example. In original movie all the computers were so primitive with tiny crt monitors, yet they already had spaceflight. Then in prometheus all monitors were either lcd or even colorful holograms, even though it's set before the original. It just does not fit. The only way I (Myself, not speaking for other people) would accept updated tech is if Lucas would go and rererererererererelease all 6 star wars movies with digitally updated tech from 70s style into 2013ish. But even then after 50 years some guy will come in and say "oh look at these unrealistic 2010s style hand held devices, we all use our brain implant-computer thingies ad we don't have long distance spaceflight yet, let's ruin the star wars even more by updating it's tech to match 2063!" Edited March 7, 2013 by Aelther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverfar Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 But it does look like ours......ours in the 1970s...... lol Pretentious... dots... don't make you... any more convincing... "lol" especially kills it for me... lol...... ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFierrio Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 HAHAHAHAHA! *breath* HAHAHAHA!... whew. I suppose you want dubstep in the next Star Wars soundtrack, too? What part of "a long time ago" don't you get from the "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away"? It doesn't "modernize" because it's inherently its own fantastical (yes, fantastical) setting. They won't do this, and I'm glad they won't. Get your technophile kicks elsewhere. Like, say, 99% of the rest of sci-fi which is so busy modernizing that it's basically soap operas and terrorist hunting in space. A fantastical setting that was concieved in the 1970s none the less...... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFierrio Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 Pretentious... dots... don't make you... any more convincing... "lol" especially kills it for me... lol...... ........... .................lol.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFierrio Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 I like star wars the old republic and would like to see it modernize and ditch the 1970s retro look. Flame on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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